redgirl1974's Journal, 18 September 2015

SOOOO,, can anyone tell me .. does whey protein make you feel like you want to barf when you drink it and why. I've been doing whey for months now and was using those premixed cartons of designer whey 8oz after my gym routine. I just bought some fancy stuff and the two times i drank it , i got nauseous, weak and oozy.. I'm kinda annoyed bc it was a huge financial investment. Followed the directions and made 12oz and could not keep it down. Each 12 oz serving has 50 g of protein and the other stuff had only 18 grams. Here's my theory :1.I drank it too fast 2. Its too much protein too soon? Maybe need to start with 1/2 a serving? 3. Whey protein is by product of cheese making.. I have issues with ice cream now so maybe its a dairy thing ?? and again, maybe I should do smaller serving? I'm not lactose intolerant but do get an upset tummy when I eat ice cream. Has any one dealt with this and what works for you... I've tried to google it and get several different ideas and my trainer says to add a banana which isn't an option for me bc of the carbs.. Help !!

Diet Calendar Entries for 18 September 2015:
1440 kcal Fat: 100.84g | Prot: 98.34g | Carb: 31.15g.   Breakfast: Sugar in the Raw Stevia in The Raw (Packet), Albertsons Heavy Whipping Cream, Coffee, Brummel & Brown Spread made with Yogurt, Banquet Brown 'N Serve Beef Sausage Patties, Scrambled Egg. Lunch: HEB Italian Chopped Salad Kit. Dinner: Calavo Avocado, Marinated Fish (Ceviche), Publix Large Shrimp. Snacks/Other: Part Skim Mozzarella Cheese, Cucumber (with Peel), Mezzetta Golden Greek Deli Sliced Peperoncini, Cream Cheese, Salami. more...
2625 kcal Activities & Exercise: Walking (moderate) - 3/mph - 50 minutes, Resting - 6 hours and 10 minutes, Sleeping - 8 hours, Desk Work - 8 hours, Housework - 1 hour. more...

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I have the same problem with keeping it down.I have tried many and can't keep any of them down. I think it is a psychological thing with me. I don't like the taste so up it comes. Hope you can find something that works for you. I gave up on the protein powders. 
18 Sep 15 by member: Julieree56
I had that when I started drinking whey after my workouts. I made sure I was well hydrated first and then did a half serving. You can also blend it up with a half of a frozen banana or some berries which can help! 
18 Sep 15 by member: notelaine
I use Fortress Whey protein, no issues with it 
18 Sep 15 by member: Rockiesfan
Hmmmm....they all taste different. I used to add a tablespoon of almond butter to chocolate mix so got a little fat in there, too. Start with a smaller serving...and I also wait until a least 30-60 minutes after workout to drink it. Immediately after workout like 5 minutes could be a problem. 
18 Sep 15 by member: HCB
See, i drank this one right after and the other ones maybe 30 m after.. the one i waited on I was fine..  
18 Sep 15 by member: redgirl1974
No idea, never tried it. I figure I get plenty of protein from my foods. Extra protein that is more than you body needs doesn't get used as protein by the body. I've never understood the need to add more.  
18 Sep 15 by member: wholefoodnut
After a hard workout I find it hard to hold much down except water. I usually add the protein to my morning oatmeal. I know you're lc so you may want some nut butter to it. As HCB said I would start with half a serving and wait a little time after your workout. 
18 Sep 15 by member: CatHerder
I have to have a little solid food to go with my protein drinks or I will get nauseated and actually feel hungry. Not much, a bite or two of something with fat and carbs. It used to be celery with a dab of peanut butter until I developed gastroparesis and had to cut out seed and fibers. 
18 Sep 15 by member: FatJuicyMouse
now that you mentioned it Cat, i sometimes have literally heaved into my sink after a hard work out, TMI I know.... My work outs are getting harder and I'm pushing myself 110 %... I think after all this awesome feedback I've decided to 1. wait 30-45 m after my work out before taking.. and 2. cut it down to 1/2 a serving and 3. try it in the am but with fruit mixed in.. bc i gave vanilla and choco... I so willing to give this one up and go back to the other one but I don't want to waste this one since i spend a lot on it so i want to at least give it more then 2 days.. hehe... Where's Frosty's input here.. he will be able to breakdown the science for me.. HAHAHAH 
18 Sep 15 by member: redgirl1974
Lol , Red I bought some of the same stuff to try, I saw it on your page yesterday and it was no carband no lactose,, first one I had seen,, I really don't want to do protein powder ,, but I keep seeing ppl using it so thought I would give it a try .. thanks for the input .  
18 Sep 15 by member: Tamarah Jo
...Because those protein bars and drinks marketed to weight lifters are processed garbage. Chicken, fish and dairy items like Greek yogurt and cottage cheese are much healthier, natural sources of protein. 
18 Sep 15 by member: soonsoonsoon
I was able to drink whey protein for years. When I got in my 50's I could no longer drink it or milk and unable to eat cheese. I now drink Hemp Protein by Manitoba called Hemp Pro 70. The taste is earthy. Had to grow on me, but now I drink it about 5 times a week. 
18 Sep 15 by member: gayle39573
I can't stand the taste of whey protein either. I buy the vanilla cream flavored 5 star protein + and mix a scoop in my morning coffee and sweeten the hell out of it with fake sugar. After a workout I will consume the 5 star creatine mixed with Almond milk. 50 g of protein is a lot. I have been told you can only digest about 30 g of protein a meal.  
18 Sep 15 by member: jparlett
I use a 100% whey protein isolate powder (30g protein, 3g of carbs per scoop)...BUT ONLY WHEN I NEED TO SUPPLEMENT. I mix it with 4-6 ounces of cold water and drink it either before, during or after a resistance training workout (with no stomach issues)... only if I don't have a ready protein food source. The more pressing questions for you are: 1. What is your daily protein target in grams? 2. What is your daily fat target in grams? 3. What is your daily calorie intake target? I am hesitant to write the following as it is hard to convey ones demeanor in writing. Suffice it to say I am writing to encourage you and want nothing but the best for you. Unless you are not keeping your diet log updated, it would appear that you do not know those targets, as they consistently seem to fluctuate dramatically from day to day. Your profile says you are following the Atkins Diet, and it would appear you have had good success since January, but based on the last few weeks listed in your log, you might be doing something Atkins-like, but it does not appear to be the Atkins diet. I suspect your success is tied to consistent calorie deficits inherent in a diet extremely and unnecessarily low in carbs. By contrast, I had similar success to yours from January 2014 to August 2014, all the while consuming 250g-350g of carbs per day. How did I consistently lose almost 70 lbs of FAT in that time frame? By maintaining a consistent calorie deficit every day. If you are working out 1-3 hours a week, you could maintain your current weight with about 2200 cals a day, and lose about 1 lb a week by eating 1800 cals per day... all while eating 200g of carbs, 152g of protein and 36g of fat... that's a lot of food! That's a 20% cal deficit and you could possibly lose a little faster by targeting an aggressive 30% cal deficit if you have 30-40 lbs more to lose. Like Atkins, those 200g of carbs should be clean, but they can also be veggies AND fruit ... 200g is the only restriction for you, based on your current stats. Never feel deprived of carbs again and never crave because you still have a nice insulin response to 200g of carbs. You won't have to "hope" you can maintain because you will be eating well balanced, un-restrictive meals all the time... you merely raise your cal intake when you reach your goal. You will "KNOW" what your TDEE cal level is; you will be able to maintain easily, and FAT loss will not be a mystery. You have done a lot of good work to this point. You can ensure it will not be for naught just by understanding the cal equation. See the free resources I reference in my profile, and good luck! 
18 Sep 15 by member: ckworksalot
Tamarah, Imma take it tonite with modifications and Ill report back bc it tastes great, I just had a hard time keeping it down. And then my mom mentioned she had a bug this week and i may have caught it if i cant keep anything down.. SMH... ill have an honest update tomorrow.. THANKS everyone..  
18 Sep 15 by member: redgirl1974
you can only digest 30 grams per meal so you are wasting your money. tThere are so many different brands i get mine at Costco so it is either Muscle TEC or Crytsport I like both of them. 
18 Sep 15 by member: Nancilaw
SoonSoonSoon, I disagree - not all bars and protein supplements are "processed garbage." There are many very high quality products with no additives and when weight lifting we sometimes need BCAAs, glutamine and protein to repair muscles. RED, it is about the timing I bet. Today I finished my workout at 1:00pm, drank another 16 ounces of water and had my protein shake at 2:15pm when my body could absorb it. 
18 Sep 15 by member: HCB
CKworks, great response I agree i gave not been 100% Atkins but try and stay as close to it as I can and some weeks are way better than others but overall I am low carb. How do I know when I need to supplement and why do trainers push whey protein after every work out then? Based on your opinion above, how would you recommend I proceed? I dont really want to give up low carb but wouldnt mind adding in more fruit/ How do I find those daily targets you mentioned? How does all that pertain to the whey protein making me sick?  
18 Sep 15 by member: redgirl1974
Your body still needs a balance of fat and carbs while taking in the protein. You need some carbs (sugar) to generate insulin which is what uses the protein to fuel your muscle cells. Too much of any one thing suddenly will make your system sensitive. I felt sick if I started my day initially with just a protein shake too when I first started. Whey protein is pushed bc it is faster digesting protein to supply and repair the muscles that you worked. I am lactose intolerant or at least I cannot drink milk, but can do these protein shakes, yogurt, and some cheese (although I avoid). Both Casein and Whey are milk based as you mentioned, there is a company called ARBONNE essentials that pulls its protein from vegetables only, so its vegan. Maybe that will be easier for you. chocolate - http://www.arbonne.com/PWS/lauraolson/store/AMUS/product/Chocolate-Protein-Shake-Mix-Powder-US-2069,1475,272.aspx vanilla- http://www.arbonne.com/PWS/lauraolson/store/AMUS/product/Vanilla-Protein-Shake-Mix-Powder-US-2070,1476,272.aspx  
18 Sep 15 by member: kcamant
CHWorks did give a great response - and remember though, you are concerned about your blood sugar numbers, right? I am not positive but I would l think higher carbs equals higher sugar in the end. And, CKWorks has a male metabolic process and lifts heavy weights. Trainer push the typical beliefs of most people - but not all things are one size fits all!  
18 Sep 15 by member: HCB

     
 

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