Rob.c.weiss's Journal, 22 February 2014

Hi, everyone!!! Happy Saturday!



<h2>Low Cal Weight Loss</h2>
Ok, so many of you may know that I had great success with a very low calorie diet. Before anyone says anything, it was doctor-monitored and all was per the plan. But my calorie consumption was quite low for a number of months. By January 8th (about a month and a half ago), I had lost right around 125 lbs.

It was time to gently bring the calories up and slow things down a little.

Basically my focus until this date had been: 80-100g of protein daily, very low carbs and fat (about 25% each of daily consumption or less). The approach worked GREAT, and if I had to do it again, I wouldn't do it any other way.

<h2>Bump It!</h2>
Now that it was time to bring calories up, I mostly planned to stay with the same formula&#8212;the formula that had worked so well. I figured it was time to introduce a few more carbs to the diet and bring my calories up to about 1500-1600 daily, while keeping 80-100g of protein daily.

Over the next month, I failed miserably.

&nbsp;&#8226;&nbsp;For one thing my carb cravings went haywire, and I stayed within the plan less than half the time
&nbsp;&#8226;&nbsp;For another, work encroached heavily. No excuse here&#8212;it was my fault!&#8212;but work did not help
&nbsp;&#8226;&nbsp;Even on days that I stuck to the plan, no weight-loss. Grrrr.
&nbsp;&#8226;&nbsp;Even the 16:8 I'd been doing seemed to be ineffectual

<h2>What Went Wrong?</h2>
Slowly it occurred to me that I had only changed one thing. My weight-loss progress had been predictable and phenomenal for months, and all I had really done was add more carbs. Of course, I've known about the "To carb, or not to carb" controversy for a long time. I honestly never thought carbs were the demon people made them out to be. A calorie is a calorie, right? But as I came to realize that I had only added some carbs (and some calories, of course) and made no other adjustments, I wondered if maybe that was the problem. In hind-sight it seems pretty obvious, especially when I lay it out this way, but at the time, the higher calories seemed the far more likely cause.

Right around this time, our good friends Mom2Boxers and BuffyBear were talking about "The Calorie Myth" by Jonathan Bailor. It was a GREAT CONVERSATION! I love this place for all of you guys, the support and everything else offered here. Of course, one of the best perks is all the info we absorb from others. It is amazing! Thanks, Mom2B and Buffy!

<h2>Keto?</h2>
First I have to say that I never did read "The Calorie Myth". Instead I found out that Jonathon Bailor (and a number of others, too; like Jorge Cruise. Right, TIC?) is an acolyte of Gary Taubes. So, I read a bunch of articles, watched a bunch of videos on YouTube, and just all-around gathered info on the Ketogenic diet, from Taubes and others, on how and why it works.

For those on here who aren't familiar with those authors and ketogenic diets in general: They (Gary Taubes, Jonathon Bailor, et al) posit that what we have been taught for so long (that fat is bad for us and our bodies) is completely wrong. That when we were taught to eat cereal, pancakes, or oatmeal for breakfast, and put carbs at the base of the food pyramid, that was all backwards. They (Taubes, etc) say eating fat is good (certain fats), carbs are bad, and even too much protein is bad, due to the influence on insulin and leptin in the body. To get more info, read more about it online, buy the books, watch videos on YouTube.

There are a fair number of people who still don't buy it. They'll probably comment on this post. But I have to say Taubes makes a compelling argument. I've seen a number of people say there is no science behind what Taubes and others are saying, but there I must disagree. Taubes actually points to a number of studies that seem to support his arguments quite well, and he speaks at length about his desires to get some funding / financial support for some good, hard studies to be done. But there is a lot of political wrangling going on here. I mean an entire industry is against this concept at its core. A lot of money is at stake.

<h2>My Initial Thoughts on Keto...</h2>
Anyway, back to my story... To be 100% honest, I wasn't completely sold. I mean, it has so long been ingrained in us that fat is just awful stuff for you. "You are what you eat" and all that. It is ridiculously hard to decide to ignore what we have been told since we were children. And what we were taught by almost every authority figure in our lives that claimed to know&#8212;from the government, the food pyramid, to our doctors, our school teachers, our parents. Everyone. With almost universal consensus.

And not even to simply ignore what we had been taught, but actually flout it in the face! And **aim** to eat fat. On purpose. A lot. &#8212;70 to 80% of your daily calories come from fat!

So, while I wasn't completely sold, I *had* seen what damage increasing my carbs had done on my very own, highly successful, diet. I was suspicious of them. In fact, I was even more suspicous that the 16:8 intermittent fast (IF) I'd been doing previously wasn't helping me nearly as much as I thought. On a few occasions, it seemed like it only really worked when I did not eat CARBOHYDRATES after my appointed hour to stop eating (8PM for me). In other words, it worked, but only because I was stopping carbs. On several occasions if I ate after 8PM but very low carbs, the 16:8 still worked. Do the same thing with carbs, and it failed. Weird.

So many things were pointing to the same thing. Why not give it a shot?

<h2>Keto to the Rescue!</h2>
My plan was to basically do the same thing I'd always done&#8212;keep protein at around 100g a day&#8212;but this time, I would bump fat up and keep carbs really low. In fact, I would lower them more than I'd ever done since I began dieting at the pathetic weight of 340 pounds. 50g of carbs or less per day. Daily calories, I was aiming for 1600.

So, fairly simple rules:
&nbsp;&#8226;&nbsp;Daily calories: Target 1600
&nbsp;&#8226;&nbsp;Protein: Target 100g / day (not very much more *OR* less)
&nbsp;&#8226;&nbsp;Carbs: Target 40-50g / day (no higher)
&nbsp;&#8226;&nbsp;Fat: Whatever was left

So Feb 17 (about five days ago), I tried to start this new plan, but ended up slipping into carbs again. Hah! Feb 19th, just three days ago, I really got it going. The first day wasn't too bad... still had the carb cravings and it drove me to eat quite a bit. But I still kept to the rules (except for the calories; I blew that away at 2237). With so many calories, I was *SHOCKED* to lose 3.4 pounds the next morning. I mean I was floored. Any time I'd ever tried to eat more than 1500 calories since starting my new plan months ago, I *NEVER* have lost weight. This time I didn't just go over 1500 calories, I blew it out of the water at 2200+ calories and still lost over 3 pounds! Unbelievable.

Of course, right at the beginning here, this is all water-weight. But still, I've **NEVER** been able to do this before. Not ever! No matter what I did.

In fact, over the last three days I have averaged 1907 calories (2237, 1785, 1700), well over the 1600 I had been planning. In those three days I've lost almost 7 pounds (3.4, 1.6, 1.8 pounds respectively). The first day I wanted CARBS!!! The second day wasn't bad at all. The third day, I wasn't very hungry at all. In fact, the second and third days (especially yesterday, the third day) I had to force myself to eat more. I just wasn't all that hungry, no carb cravings or anything. Toward the end of the day yesterday I was only at about 1,100 calories and I needed to get some more in. I didn't want to go that low.

Ok, I know this is still early, but I have to say I'm really impressed by this so far. We'll see how it goes, and I'll let you know what happens. But at the moment, I am very happy with this progress. Not just happy&#8212;ecstatic!

If any of you are doing a Ketogenic diet right now, I'd love to hear how you're doing with it. And any tips you may have.

THANK YOU EVERYONE!!! Have a great SATURDAY!
214.2 lb Lost so far: 125.8 lb.    Still to go: 34.2 lb.    Diet followed 100%.

Diet Calendar Entry for 22 February 2014:
1679 kcal Fat: 121.11g | Prot: 104.14g | Carb: 59.37g.   Breakfast: Half and Half Cream, Happy Farms Shredded Mozzarella Cheese, Onions, Bacon Grease, Farmland Foods Hickory Smoked Bacon, Egg, Meijer Clear Soluble Fiber, Truvia Sweetener, Splenda No Calorie Sweetener Packets, Coffee (Brewed From Grounds), Half and Half Cream, Spring Valley Omega 3 Fish Oil. Lunch: Truvia Sweetener, Splenda No Calorie Sweetener Packets, Coffee (Brewed From Grounds), Half and Half Cream, Konsyl Psyllium Fiber, Silk Pure Almond Milk - Unsweetened Vanilla, Syntrax Nectar Latte Cappuccino Whey Protein Isolate, Syntrax Micellar Creme Chocolate Milkshake Casein Protein. Dinner: Meijer Clear Soluble Fiber, Truvia Sweetener, Splenda No Calorie Sweetener Packets, Coffee (Brewed From Grounds), Half and Half Cream, Denny's Chicken Noodle Soup (Without the Noodles), Bamboo Lane Sesame Chicken, Ajinomoto Beef Broccoli with Sauce. Snacks/Other: Konsyl Psyllium Fiber, Happy Farms Shredded Mild Cheddar Cheese, Dry Roasted Pecan Nuts (with Salt Added), Planters Pistachios Sea Salt and Black Pepper, Meijer Cashews, Nice! Pumpkin Seeds. more...
losing 12.6 lb a week

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Grinning ear to ear. Not because I got an honorable mention, but because you are discovering how bad grains are ... the bad carbs. Gary Taubes is incredible and he has done the scientific research. He has proved it. There is no calories in and calories out. There is no eat less, exercise more. It's a matter of eating whole, natural foods and learning to cook! LOL! When I started doing a low carb plan, I read the Protein Power, by Dr. Michael Eades. (That was many years ago). I will tell you this, if you eat low carb now, you need to eat it for life. Once you start adding back in the unhealthy carbs again (breads, pasta, etc), the weight will come back on 3x faster than the speed of light. LMAO! THAT is what happened to me. I am pretty sure that is what broke my metabolism in the end. SO just eat good food. Stay out of the prepackaged boxes and stuff in the center aisles of the grocery store.  
22 Feb 14 by member: Mom2Boxers
THANKS, Mom!!! You are so right. And I should have given you and Buffy more than an honorable mention. :D 
22 Feb 14 by member: Rob.c.weiss
Happy Saturday (oops) to you Rob. And congrats on the progress with your new eating plan. It has to feel good to have a less restricted calorie intake and still be able to lose when you make the right food choices. Here’s to continued progress. 
22 Feb 14 by member: ChicaLean
As you said, what an education. Thanks Rob.  
22 Feb 14 by member: ClassicRocker
I've never received an "Honorable Mention" before :) . But, even without it your journal today is great. There are many paths to weight loss, but for me a lower carb approach is the easiest and healthiest. Looks like you are going to find your way. Hope your journal will help others as well.  
22 Feb 14 by member: BuffyBear
Thanks, Chica, CR and again, Buffy!!! :D 
22 Feb 14 by member: Rob.c.weiss
Great information! I admit to being pretty skeptical of the Atkins diet and other similar diets. I am not quite ready to do a full 180, but I do know that I am willing to replace most of the bread products I usually ate with more fruits and vegetables and the occasional potato product. I am aware that my cravings for carbs have always been a problem and that I could probably benefit from attempting to just kick them to the curb. I'm sort of chicken. Higher fat scares lots of people. I know that I eat olive oil, nuts and peanut butter without guilt, unlike the preachings in the 80s and 90s. For that I am eternally grateful! I'll do some research as well and talk to my doctor honestly. Your results and personal observations are amazing! Thanks for sharing. 
22 Feb 14 by member: gilliansings
YAAAAAAAY To YOU ROB!!! I am loving this eating style also :D Never would have guessed that since I actually use to like the process of eating LOL I too am impressed & it's only been 5 days for me,lost almost 5 lbs this WEEK! Without being hungry,having cravings,exercising & I even deviated from doing it a couple of times...go figure!? I feel great. I feel slimmer & my hubby says "It's all good!" no doubt since he can still have his 2 glasses of wine every night :) ALL are welcome to read my journals for this past week for how my journey in "The 100" by Jorge Cruise is going..... 
22 Feb 14 by member: myawethinTICself
Rob. You were under the care of a doctor for the first part of your diet. Were they specialists in weight loss? 
22 Feb 14 by member: ClassicRocker
Thanks, TIC! So true. :D So glad it is working well for you too! Keep me up on how you're doing! 
22 Feb 14 by member: Rob.c.weiss
Hey, CR! Yes, I saw a weight-loss specialist a few times, and the remainder of the follow-up, occasional blood-tests, etc., has just been at my local GP's office. I say GP, but he (my regular doctor) is actually a Medical Internist -- specializing in diseases and conditions of the body's major organ systems. 
22 Feb 14 by member: Rob.c.weiss
Lucky you to have a doctor willing to work so closely with you. Mine originally gave me the name of a surgeon to have the bariatric procedure done. Insurance would have paid for it as I was 100lbs overweight at the time. Decided to do it the hard way and learn how to eat healthy. Proving you can teach an old horse new tricks.  
22 Feb 14 by member: ClassicRocker
Great post Rob and thanks for the info! I am one of those who have yet to let go of the carbs :( I'm still scared LOL! I don't eat a ton of carbs however feel good when I eat some mainly oats, yams, brown rice, quinoa, fruit , veggies, etc. I cannot believe the wealth of information I have been reading on FS about this KETO diet so I may just have to give it a shot soon!  
22 Feb 14 by member: lauraab
Thanks, Kathy! You're right. He's a great Doc. I even talked my Mom into going to him instead of her last doctor, and she loves him too (and she *hates* doctors!) She doesn't have any weight issues or anything -- I got my Dad's genes. 
22 Feb 14 by member: Rob.c.weiss
@Lauraab, thank you so much! I'd say if you're doing so well, stick with what works for you. It seems like you're doing GREAT! I go to your page for my own inspiration. Keep it up! I'm firmly convinced that Keto isn't for everyone. In fact, I don't think any single strategy that people follow will work for everyone. It seems to me that Ketogenic diets are great for people that may be struggling with carbs. But, for me, I can't get over the results just so far. I was really fighting, trying to get my calories up, and nothing was working. This is the only thing that finally did. I hope it keeps going. But where you are at is SOOO ENVIABLE! :D 
22 Feb 14 by member: Rob.c.weiss
Rob, I really enjoyed reading your post, and learning through your experience. I too have found that eating refined carbs just makes me want more. As far as fat, it's been my experience that healthy fats keep me satiated and fuller longer. For that reason, I really don't go out of my way to regulate them or put a lot of energy into avoiding fat. I'll check out the authors you mentioned. Keep on, keepin' on. 
23 Feb 14 by member: KJ_Robinett
I, too, am skeptical, but that doesn't mean I've closed my eyes. Certainly overweight people tend to be more insulin resistant so carbs are an issue, but when I began my diet I went on The Zone. It was simpler because he has a system of not counting calories. 40% of my calories for the term of that diet (which I abandoned at about 18% body fat), were to come from carbs, but, so called 'complex carbs' were considered a poor choice. I took the advice. The majority of my calories came from fruit and I was told over and over by friends that I wouldn't lose weight because of the insulin spike. Nevertheless, I lost weight. During the course of the process, I discovered that glucose is what needs to be in the blood for it to be useable. What does that mean in practice? Well, most grains and processed carbs are already in glucose form which means it's straight into the bloodstream with them with no moderation. Fructose (not talking high fructose corn syrup, by the way), and particularly fructose that is still in it's original fiber and not juiced, has to be processed by the liver to become glucose. Right there you have a moderated insulin response because the glucose is presented more slowly. I believe a lot of what we have been presented is for the benefit of the agriculture industry and not for our well-being. Thanks for the long post, Rob. It was worth it. I'm still a bit gobstruck by the 'how do you celebrate no weight loss or gain' comment. 
23 Feb 14 by member: northernmusician
Hi Rob - fantastic post. I must say thanks for sharing! I think you are right on the money here. I just came back from Mexico - all inclusive, all you could eat and drink - 5* and fantastic food. Imagine, I was having caviar for breakfast - who does that! I was terrified before going that my weight loss would be destroyed. The ONLY thing I did was concentrate on getting lots of protein and limit the carbs. I never had bread, potatoes or rice, although I had dessert 2Xs a day and a few glasses of wine a day. My husband discussed with me my eating several times and was convinced I would be up 10 pounds and that I would step back 3 months of losing weight. - HAH! - up only 3.5 pounds. I consider this a great success and it was thanks to limiting the damn carbs - I'm sure of it! I say good for you and thanks again for the post. 
23 Feb 14 by member: Lynn1958

     
 

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