redgirl1974's Journal, 22 August 2015

Looking for some advice/feedback/comments. I've been working out doing weights for 3 weeks now. Per my trainer, every week I'm adding more weight. I feel strong and lean and amazing BUT here's my problem.I'm starving.I've upped my carbs to around 25-40 net carbs a day,and honestly,I'm not micromanaging it like before,just kinda eating what feels good that day and still logging a loss.I eat about an hour before the gym but afterwards, I'm sooooo hungry. Eat you say? Well, here's my issue, bc of my work schedule I don't get to the gym till 7pm so I'm out at 9 ish and I don't like to eat so late but I really don't have a choice.Before I started weights,a simple shake or string cheese was ok but I literally crave protein..Last night it was fish, the day before was turkey, ect.. AND, I feel like I'm hungry all day lately.I haven't changed my eating habits, still have my 5 small meals, and like I said, I'm eating more net carbs and still producing a loss. A.Is this normal and B. what can I do to fix?C.Is eating that late ok?Bc Ive always had my last meal between 7-8 pm and dinner so late is new to me. Adding more net carbs is not an option for me.I did buy a high protein shake to drink afterwards but haven't tried yet. THANKS in advance everyone...

Diet Calendar Entries for 22 August 2015:
2019 kcal Fat: 151.43g | Prot: 107.71g | Carb: 70.86g.   Breakfast: Bacon, Fried Egg, Sugar in the Raw Stevia in The Raw (Packet), Coffee, Cream (Half & Half). Lunch: Hellmann's Real Mayonnaise, Deli Turkey or Chicken Breast Meat, Great Value Sharp Cheddar Cheese, Mixed Salad Greens. Dinner: Great Value Traditional Spaghetti Sauce, Provolone Cheese, Hormel Original Pepperoni Slices, Chicken Breast. Snacks/Other: low carb bar, Tomatoes, Hellmann's Real Mayonnaise, Hormel Spam Single Classic, Pistachio Nuts, Kraft Cool Whip, Strawberries, Celery, Laura Scudder's All Natural Old Fashioned Smooth Peanut Butter, low carb bar. more...
3091 kcal Activities & Exercise: Walking (moderate) - 3/mph - 30 minutes, Treadmill - 40 minutes, Resting - 5 hours and 50 minutes, Sleeping - 8 hours, Desk Work - 8 hours, Housework - 1 hour. more...

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PROTEINS PROTEINS PROTEINS its all about them... add heaps.. and see yourself losing heaps of weight! 
22 Aug 15 by member: Chillipeppers
muscle milk protein scoops, fish, eggs, turkey, chicken..... ofcourse u need veggies but go heavy on them proteins!!  
22 Aug 15 by member: Chillipeppers
You can eat late at night, or at any other time. What matters is how much you eat, not when you do it. Do whatever makes you the least unhappy. You're in control now, and you can keep it that way. 
22 Aug 15 by member: ptburns
I say add Fat,, Fat totally keeps you satiated,, you can do anything once your body is Fat adapted,, I ran a half marathon on fat,, trickled very little carb . I prefer my body being fat adapted. Its so much easier. I sometimes would put olive oil in my water bottle while running training runs !  
22 Aug 15 by member: Tamarah Jo
you should add more fat to your diet. Carbs will make you feel hungry. Fats in the morning will keep you from starving throughout the day.  
22 Aug 15 by member: aftekkie
Complex carbs keep you from being hungry, not simple carbs. Complex carbs like beans, legumes, whole grains, seeds, nuts. For me fats just make me sick. Depends on the person.  
22 Aug 15 by member: wholefoodnut
just putting this out there...my friend was just hospitalized for rhabomylasis, be careful!  
22 Aug 15 by member: Frosty37
When I was adjusting to the FODMAP diet and trying to stay low-glycemic as well (basically low simple carbs) -- I was hungry a lot of the time. I kept experimenting trying to figure out how to address this problem. For me, I came to the conclusion that when I eliminated all the things you have to jettison when you go FODMAP (which eliminates all baked goods and all lactose) -- I eliminated too much fat. So I started adding in butter and lactose-free cheese, and I started feeling less hungry. Also, I have a similar problem: I take my dog to agility class at 5:30 one night a week, and it's too early to eat dinner, but by the time I get home -- around 7:15 -- I'm starving. To avoid this problem, I eat a Luna Protein bar and a glass of skim milk in the car on the way to the lesson. Then, when I get home, I generally eat some high-protein leftover or make an egg white omelet, and I'm fine.  
22 Aug 15 by member: Hermiones Mom
IMHO KETOnian opinion, when I up my carbs (either intentionally or unintentionally), I tend to get hungrier sooner and more often. You said that you upped your carbs, was that after seeing this trainer and lifting weights; maybe back that out and see how things go? When I eat carbs over 10 - 20g/day, I tend to crave them and am hungrier more often and Keto/LCHF becomes tougher. Go with a Whey Protein Concentrate or Isolate (Read up on the differences) post workout; I'll be using ProMix WPC once it shows up (Non-GMO, Grass Fed, NO ADDITIVES). I've been lifting weights while fasted (>8hrs) and usually don't eat for another 12hrs after that. This has become my favorite way of working out and really enjoy it, lots of energy on zero carbs. Other guys around me are re-carbing 30 minutes into the work-out; lulz. My current pre-workout consists of 2 or 3 cups of coffee. Good luck on finding out what works for you. 
22 Aug 15 by member: Frosty Heimdall
putting this out there...my friend was just hospitalized for rhabomylasis, be careful! Confused on this Holly not sure what you are warning people about in this thread about timing and what to eat around exercise times. I looked it up it's a muscle degeneration issue the primary causes are heredity, injury and reactions to various meds.  
22 Aug 15 by member: wholefoodnut
My friend got obsessed with lifting and working out, and messed up her carbs/ macros, a lot I don't track...she was in the hospital for 7 days. It's not heredity and it's really common in body builders of you're not careful. I get alarmed when I see people saying something is not agreeing with them ( being hungry all the time) during and after work outs... that's all I'm saying .  
22 Aug 15 by member: Frosty37
It's muscle deterioration/damage couple with decreased kidney function I believe. there was a big scare about it being caused by statins recently when not monitored appropriately. 
22 Aug 15 by member: nicholaix
As a side note : I've had a beer and a glass of wine ! Lol, I just wanted the op to just be careful! :-)  
22 Aug 15 by member: Frosty37
I saw that Nichol as one of the meds referenced. I had never heard of this before so definitely know little, just went hunting online after it was mentioned. I also never track a macros, not even sure exactly what that means though it's referenced often here, so I'm pretty sure I have a basic understanding. Kidney function can sometimes be affected by high protein diets so is that a connection? Since I work out most days but not a "body builder", just wondering.  
22 Aug 15 by member: wholefoodnut
Yikes, Red. You got a bunch of different opinions. LCHF is a way of running your body off fat...ketones. If you are doing LCHF, a fat bomb before workout and some protein after will be sufficient. You are not body building in a way in which you need to be so worried - hunger is normal at the start of weight work. You will be fine - I run my body off dietary fats and body fat. I am LCHF anf ketone adapted. Plenty of energy. 
22 Aug 15 by member: HCB
Oh, and high fat requires moderate protein...or the liver will use the protein for glucose and store it if you do not use it. I actually stayed the same weight when I did super high protein. But as WFN says - every one is different and you will find what best works for you. 
22 Aug 15 by member: HCB
WFN there is definitely a connection. Overdosing on protein can stress the kidneys, if there is any other reason for decreased kidney function it can cause a disaster (which is what I am sure was the thought behind someone elses comment). Very high protein, not enough fluids, certain drugs, all of these in combination over time can cause the condition mentioned. For most people there is no danger however unless there is an underlying medical condition. 
23 Aug 15 by member: nicholaix
Stay hydrated, stay hydrated, stay hydrated!! The nuts after are a really good choice with maybe some shaved coconut.  
23 Aug 15 by member: kclab
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