adefwebserver's Journal, 29 September 2018

A person can only share their own experience and allow you to evaluate it. Telling someone else what they should do or trying to shame them is deadly.

If I tell a Type 1 diabetic to follow my low carb eating and then go for a run, because their pancreas cannot produce the insulin needed to prevent hypoglycemia, *that-advise-will-kill-them*.

In the same way, a insulin resistant person will have skyrocketing blood sugar levels if they think they can suck down 200 carbs a day like they see others doing. Forget about losing weight (I’ve been on this site for 8 years and during the first 6 years was only able to lose 15 pounds (2.5lbs a year))

So, I can only share my - OWN - experience:

🌟 For me insulin matters. Calories do not make me fat, insulin makes me fat. In *my* body (I don’t know about ‘yours’) insulin production is affected by the amount of carbs I consume. If I do not reduce my carbs I will not lose weight, period.

All my conclusions are backed my data I recorded day by day for the past 5 months. Even when a person is talking about their own experience, ask them to show you their data. Examine their data for yourself.

Here are my numbers:

🌟 May [194lbs-188lbs] : 551kcal (Fat: 25.63g, Protein: 23.44g, Carbs: 60.27g)
🌟 June [188lbs-177lbs] : 585kcal (Fat: 28.99g, Protein: 33.04g, Carbs: 46.91g)
🌟 July [177lbs-167lbs] : 797kcal (Fat: 50.53g, Protein: 59.97g, Carbs: 28.35g)

Notice in July my calories went UP but my carbs went DOWN and I still lost weight.

In August and September I had weeks where I intentionally gained weight to ‘bulk up’ for weight lifting so my calories went UP, however, if I only consume 1500 calories a day I am STILL in a calorie DEFICIT. So, it ‘looks like’ when I double my calories I stop losing weight:

🌟 August [168lbs-169lbs] : 1446kcal (Fat: 73.07g, Protein: 127.94g, Carbs: 64.82g)
🌟 September[168lbs-168lbs] : 1359kcal (Fat: 73.43g, Protein: 117.52g, Carbs: 46.79g)

This is where people will say: “See! It is only the CALORIES that matter! You just need to eat less and move more to lose weight! Simple! You Keto people are So Stupid for believing all that ‘insulin resistant’ crap!”

But let’s look “inside” the averages:

*My* raw numbers for September:

01 - 168lbs - Calories: 2982 Carbs: 90
02 - 169lbs - Calories: 1975 Carbs: 49
03 - 172lbs - Calories: 2273 Carbs: 19
04 - 174lbs - Calories: 865 Carbs: 10
05 - ---lbs - Calories: 920 Carbs: 12
06 - 171lbs - Calories: 920 Carbs: 12
07 - 171lbs - Calories: 920 Carbs: 12
08 - 167lbs - Calories: 1180 Carbs: 15
09 - 168lbs - Calories: 1440 Carbs: 18
10 - 169lbs - Calories: 920 Carbs: 12
11 - 169lbs - Calories: 920 Carbs: 12
12 - 169lbs - Calories: 660 Carbs: 9
13 - 168lbs - Calories: 2122 Carbs: 111
14 - ---lbs - Calories: 2231 Carbs: 148
15 - ---lbs - Calories: 2151 Carbs: 166
16 - ---lbs - Calories: 3420 Carbs: 313
17 - 178lbs - Calories: 920 Carbs: 12
18 - 178lbs - Calories: 920 Carbs: 12
19 - 176lbs - Calories: 920 Carbs: 12
20 - 175lbs - Calories: 1080 Carbs: 19
21 - 175lbs - Calories: 580 Carbs: 9
22 - 172lbs - Calories: 1310 Carbs: 18
23 - 170lbs - Calories: 2491 Carbs: 113
24 - 171lbs - Calories: 790 Carbs: 12
25 - 170lbs - Calories: 900 Carbs: 15
26 - 170lbs - Calories: 565 Carbs: 12
27 - 168lbs - Calories: 860 Carbs: 18
28 - 169lbs - Calories: 1260 Carbs: 74
29 - 168lbs - Calories: 930 Carbs: 18

Let’s looks at the data :

🌟 The biggest gain (10lbs) was from the 13th – 17th (168lbs-178lbs) - 9,924 calories - 738 carbs)
🌟 The biggest loss (10lbs) was from 18th – 27th (178lbs-168lbs) - 9,556 calories – 222 carbs)

Insights:

🌟 When I consume 1,984 calories a day for 5 days I gain weight
🌟 When I consume 955 calories a day for 10 days I lose weight
🌟 When I consume 147 carbs a day for 5 days I gain weight
🌟 When I consume 22 carbs a day for 10 days I lose weight

Analysis:

🌟 It would SEEM as if when I double my calories I will gain weight (quickly!) However, we have to assume my weight maintenance is NOT 900 calories (because I lose weight at those calories) so it has to be higher. According to: https://www.cnpp.usda.gov/sites/default/files/usda_food_patterns/EstimatedCalorieNeedsPerDayTable.pdf a 50 year old ‘sedentary’ man burns 1800 calories a day. So 100 EXTRA calories a day will cause me to gain 10lbs in 5 days?? This is where I have to just say that this makes no sense to me. The numbers do not add up.
🌟 However, if I LOSE weight on 22 carbs a day, we can assume that my maintenance is 40 carbs a day. If I then consume 147 carbs a day I am increasing my carbs over my maintenance level by 3.6 times! This would cause my body to produce a MAGNITUDE more insulin and move more glycogen into my cells. Each gram of glycogen stored requires 3-4 grams of water so the majority of this weight gain is this ‘water weight’ not fat, but there *is* fat also being stored by the insulin.

Conclusion:

This is why I feel insulin, controlled by the amount of carbs I consume, is the primary factor for my weight gain or loss.

Diet Calendar Entries for 29 September 2018:
1330 kcal Fat: 89.00g | Prot: 86.00g | Carb: 44.00g.   Breakfast: Quest Vanilla Milkshake Protein Powder, Land O'Lakes Heavy Whipping Cream. Dinner: Hillshire Farm Polska Kielbasa, Wegmans Zucchini Noodles. Snacks/Other: Just the Cheese Grilled Cheese Crunchy Baked Cheese, Quest Oatmeal Raisin Protein Cookie, Quest Vanilla Milkshake Protein Powder, Land O'Lakes Heavy Whipping Cream. more...
2416 kcal Activities & Exercise: Running (jogging) - 5/mph - 1 hour, Resting - 15 hours, Sleeping - 8 hours. more...

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Excellent post! 
29 Sep 18 by member: Becc@
Great analysis. My experience is similar. 
29 Sep 18 by member: gz9gjg
Totally in agreement with you.....a calorie is not a calorie. Carbs make a difference . We need to eat hormonally. My experience is similar... 
29 Sep 18 by member: HypnoDeb
Great analysis. My experience is similar. 
29 Sep 18 by member: gz9gjg
I totally agree with you on the carbs too, you are very very sensitive to carbs and honestly I would put your reaction to carbs cut off a little lower then 40 on a higher calorie diet, you have not tested that yet, or at least I did not notice it. You have one day at 1300 with lower carbs and still had a loss. Sensitive folks need lower carbs at maintenance too, you will find that out when you test it. Carbs cause cravings, everyone has their own individual craving carb level. but along with Chris I would like to see you get more calories and get the weight loss more safely. It is important to feed our bodies too! You have a lot of exercise to go with those low numbers! 
29 Sep 18 by member: baskington
Good luck with all the info. Chris makes a good point on stabilizing the calorie intake vs. high/low. 
29 Sep 18 by member: srossca
I suggest some HIIT Programs, at least once per week, & Hybrid. The rest of the week is C&S (Conditioning & Strength). I eat at least 2200 - 2400 everyday (6’ foot) & rarely gain weight.  
29 Sep 18 by member: srossca
I think he feels the only way he can build muscles is if he eats carbs Chris. You guys are in the different place. I know you can not gain wieght on keto, but Adef I think can. Your metabolism is just too fast and you burn everything before you even get a chance to adsorb it. Plus you oddly enough have a hard time eating enough calories, I have no problem eating 1400 to 1600 calories a day.  
29 Sep 18 by member: baskington
I LOVE THIS 💞💕💙💞💜💜. Data does not lie! bravo 👏👏👏👏  
29 Sep 18 by member: jenjabba
I would love to see you go to a center that can measure fat, muscle and water volume of your body so you could see the truth. Until then you will not know for sure, weight fluctuations can mean many things but when they are daily it's water weight. 
29 Sep 18 by member: -Diablo
this is so accurate! I'm the same as you! 
29 Sep 18 by member: Sharons Victory
excellent data but I'm glad you make it a point to say this is what works for you. every body is different and handles nutrition differently. I tried something similar to keto once, and I ended up in the ER in gastro intestinal distress and the doctors were worried about my organs shutting down. my body does not sustain on extreme low carb, so I had to find my balance. it's what worked for "my" body, for my activity level.  
29 Sep 18 by member: dagona23
Great attention to detail! This is what I think is one of the most fascinating to things about the human body ... how unique we all are. You know what works for you, and that's AMAZING that you know yourself so well. So many people don't even bother to consider to their own unique design, and just blindly follow what an expert suggests based on blanket generalizations and/or majorities. 
29 Sep 18 by member: nattie720
When you go from almost no carbs plus running to a lot more carbs and no running you will gain water weight rapidly. That's exactly what boxers to for their weigh in and then they gain back 15-20+ pounds overnight by consuming carbs and rehydrating by drinking a lot of water. 
29 Sep 18 by member: -Diablo
I mean, I could go keto and lose 10 pounds in a couple of days. It would be 100% water if I wasn't in a deficit. I don't live by the scale though. I'd water keep that glycogen since there are so many benefits. 
29 Sep 18 by member: -Diablo
I agree on the calories Chris but I would be happy to get him to eat a big fatty ribeye with a nice big pat of butter for omad and keep the carbs down to 6 or under. that way he could feed his body at least a little and lose a ton of weight. He said once he is done with the cut he will try it. By then he will need two big steaks! LOL. I eat at least a pound + a day myself of the untrimmed ribeye at Sam's club, those have enough fat I don't have to add anything to get my fat level. Hamburger just does not get it for me.  
29 Sep 18 by member: baskington
I am certain that the carbs are the biggest factor in me gaining weight, and cutting carbs are the biggest factor in causing me to lose weight. I know that others have different experiences, but that is the way my body works. 
29 Sep 18 by member: katybshopper
I get really tired feeling that I feel extremely lethargic around 3pm. I don't have the energy to exercise which is a horrible feeling. I eat about 4pm with a 4 hour window, (until 8pm) On my free days, Sats & Suns I have no appetite which I think is screwing things up for me too. Seems like I should be losing more weight than I am? Anyways, great discussion... it's right in line with where I am now.  
29 Sep 18 by member: Christina Maria Thompson
This is your truth and I believe you found your Fat Secret. Your discipline got you here and it will get you to your new goals. Happy for you bro. Thank you for not quitting. 
29 Sep 18 by member: chesgreen
This is another interesting thread. Everybody is different. The way I determined what is working for me is by analyzing my data. That's why I frequently suggest logging and tracking to others, especially when they hit a plateau. As for me, I have noticed that carbs have a huge effect on my weight gain and losses. At the same time, I have come to realize that I need some carbs to fuel my resistance workouts. On off days I up my protein intake which displaces my carb intake when I'm able to stay within my calorie goal. It's good to see you crunching your numbers. It works!!!  
29 Sep 18 by member: John10251

     
 

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