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Breaking fast after 26 hours with home-cooked hot wings, celery and Ranch dressing. Y'all, lard is the bomb-diggity for deep frying!
All that aside, interesting observation on the carb spiking experiment. Before I did it, I had become hyper-sensitive to salty and sweet tastes. I had also lost all cravings for high-carb favorites..like pasta, bread and potatoes. Even though my 'spike' was only 115 g carbs, the next day, the salty/sweet sensitivity was gone, and I found myself battling cravings again.
Now, 16 days later, the sensitivity came back. I believe it is a function of keto-adaptation. I was back in ketosis the day after the spike, but it has taken an additional 15 days to get back to adapted. The cravings are again dissipating, and taking less time than at the beginning.
My thoughts on carb spiking? I won't be doing it again! I gained 7 pounds in the 3 days following it, and it took 2 weeks for me to take it back off, with fasting and very strict LCHF. I am not doing strenuous exercise, or weight training. I AM making an effort to be more active than I have for the past year, and when I work, I work hard.
Diet Calendar Entries for 18 June 2016:
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1070 kcal
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Fat: 89.46g | Prot: 54.61g | Carb: 10.08g.
Breakfast: Heavy Cream, Coffee (Brewed From Grounds), Pyure Stevia Sweetener. Dinner: Great Value Beef Broth, Marketside Buttermilk Ranch Dressing, Celery, Buffalo Wild Wings Chicken Wings. more...
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3106 kcal
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Activities & Exercise:
Cleaning - 25 minutes, Washing Dishes - 1 hour and 30 minutes, Watching TV/Computer - 5 hours, Walking (moderate) - 3/mph - 1 hour, Driving - 1 hour, Sleeping - 8 hours, Resting - 6 hours and 30 minutes, Cooking - 35 minutes. more...
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wow thanks for all the info,I was thinking of what would happen if i just ate 100-150g carbs on random day (i usually eat under 20 g carbs everyday), and how much weight i would gain? that is scary! 7 lbs! i really want a day where i can eat pizza and coldstone and chowmein again though!!!
18 Jun 16 by member: Emmy1502
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Thanks for posting your results of carb spiking after fast. I am toying with the idea of eating a piece of carrot cake 1100 calories if I can eat the whole thing. I'm not hungry, I just want to eat something sweet. I think I'll pass after hearing you relate the 15 days to peacefulness. Appreciate the life ring just when I needed it. 💐
18 Jun 16 by member: Sarah1950
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Emmy, I saw your post and replied. ;) If you want to hit the restart button, go ahead and indulge. The way I see it. this is a life change, not a diet. Indulge and start over tomorrow.
18 Jun 16 by member: mskestrela
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@Sarah, if you crave something sweet, filling and satisfying....look into fat bombs! I made some chocolate-peanut butter fat bombs, and they are SO rich and satisfying, I have to force myself to finish one.
18 Jun 16 by member: mskestrela
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great advice for everyone...
19 Jun 16 by member: wannabhealthier
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i dont really have cravings so much..its just i get to lookin at something different that i cut outta my daily/weekly eating plan..an i think..boy that sure looks good..il just eat it...surely it wont hurt to much...but it always does mess up my workin it off..im a slow learner i guess
19 Jun 16 by member: wannabhealthier
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I hear you, Wanna! I'm learning what spikes my insulin in sort of a reverse elimination experiment. 2 Ritz crackers don't blow my carb count, but they do spike me out of ketosis. Go figure.
I saw somewhere that broth is a good way to add minerals and other micronutrients, as well as up the water intake, so I got some beef broth. It tasted so good right out of the carton, I chugged about 2 cups. I figured it was zero carb, so why not. Yeah. That 2 cups has 1600 mg sodium in it, and today my weight is up a pound. I'll be making my own broth from now on!
19 Jun 16 by member: mskestrela
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Your post got me thinking. From what I learned in the past week, there are three types of people (to put it simply): 1) those prone to insulin resistance, who tend toward diabetes, 2) normal people, and 3) those prone to insulin sensitivity, who tend toward cancer. I don't do LCHF, but am aware of my macros and feel pleased when I can keep my fat over 50%. After my first fast broken I did NOT gain weight despite the higher carbs, but felt irritable. I put myself firmly in the third group. I am WAY over simplifying it, because obviously diabetics do get cancer, as do normal weight people. Maybe it's because the carbs I eat are non GMO and sucrose free. Maybe it's because I'm insulin sensitive. People do react differently.
19 Jun 16 by member: LadyinDenim
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'indulge' and start over tmrw. u r right, this is a lifestyle change.
19 Jun 16 by member: Emmy1502
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Lady, as I understand it, people with insulin sensitivity rarely gain weight, or are overweight. I have a friend who can out-eat me 3:1, and she is skeletal. Her upper thigh is smaller than my upper arm. She is also almost manically active. She can't sit still for 5 minutes and talk a mile a minute. She has been diagnosed insulin sensitive. It basically means that every single calorie she eats gets burned off as soon as it's consumed.
19 Jun 16 by member: mskestrela
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Then I got it wrong. Dr. Fung talked about a P10 gene marker and that is what I construed as insulin sensitive/prone to cancer. Will need to research more. Thanks!
19 Jun 16 by member: LadyinDenim
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Lady, I just listened to the lecture where he mentions that. While the gene marker for those different types could be linked as he said, those aren't the only traits of the different levels of sensitivity/resistance. You didn't have it wrong at all.
Also, my weight gain wasn't after breaking the fast, it was after an ill-thought-out intentional carb spike. Since I've been IF-ing, my weight has shown a steady, slow drop. :)
19 Jun 16 by member: mskestrela
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I am so happy for you! Don't you love IF-ing? I am so happy with it and with my quick results so far. My daughter, 5'7" 270 lb. just watched 5 videos and sent her husband shopping. She is focusing on cooking more and eating processed foods less. She has tons of questions and seems eager to keep the ball rolling. I try not to seem TOO happy about it, but it means my grandkids will also be eating better and that is a win for everyone.
19 Jun 16 by member: LadyinDenim
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Yes! I just finished part 4, and one thing keeps coming up for me with Dr. Fung.... If he knows all this stuff, and promotes it, why the hell is he talking about his son getting all the snacks, breads, and other things that he knows cause metabolic syndrome?? I know the stories about his kid are supposed to be anecdotal, but really?
19 Jun 16 by member: mskestrela
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Mskestrela, if you read his book, he does not recommend fasting for children, because of the fact that they are growing. Based on his studies this is a disease that begins with too many refined carbs and an overload of sugar. If you don't start off your life with these issues there is no reason to worry about metabolic system because your hormones won't be out of balance. He does talk about childhood obesity that is inherited from mothers with insulin resistance which is passed through to the child in the womb due to the sharing of a blood supply. A normal healthy child uses everything they eat and very little of it is stored because the body is growing. The primary hormone active in children is the growth hormone, the other hormones don't really make a significant play until they reach puberty.
19 Jun 16 by member: debrafrederick
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There are millions of people who can eat large amounts of carbs and sugar and stay thin, these are people who are insulin sensitive, I'm sure you have a few in your circle of friends. Their metabolisms are different from those of us with insulin resistance. That is one of the reasons why there is so much controversy over diet, different foods affect different people in different ways a lot of it is genetics, some of it is environment, and some are caused by non diet related diseases. There is no one diet fits all solution. The majority of people with extreme amounts of weight to lose who have struggled for years to lose weight are the ones who are targeted for insulin resistance. Years of calorie restriction and rebound weight gains have increased the body set weight to an unhealthy level. Those are the ones that this type of WOE will benefit the most.
19 Jun 16 by member: debrafrederick
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@Debra... you are absolutely right with all that you write, but I don't understand why Dr. Fung would promote unhealthy eating with his kids (if he does, I haven't watched that part) knowing that is what CAUSES metabolic damage. From my watching of his videos on dietdoctor.com he suggests fast and feast without Carb restriction for people who are not metabolically damaged..Maybe the fasting keeps metabolic syndrome from happening?? Or is he waiting for them to get sick, and then start restricting?? *shrugs* My thing is that one does not HAVE to be over weight to have metabolic syndrome such as diabetes. My uncle died at 35 from a diabetic seizure, and he was thin. Just as the infamous Professor, Tim Noakes, who once promoted high Carb low fat is now diabetic and controls it with LCHF. There is also a nice movie of a dude who is thin & diabetic (Carb-Loaded, I think was the one, or maybe it was Cereal Killers).
19 Jun 16 by member: Caterpillar2Butterfly
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It would be healthier for everyone if they ate less frequently, because we are designed to do that and for even those with insulin sensitivity, over time constant high intake could catch up to them, but the population he is trying to reach are the ones who are battling obesity. He talks a lot about the time factor, the longer you are obese the more extreme the measures you have to take to reverse the damage, where someone who suddenly puts on 10 pounds can very quickly and easily take it back off while the same ten pounds if carried for several years can take much longer to remove. And as this is something he has been researching for several years I'm sure that the stories of his son's eating habits were prior to his hypothesis and were simply shared to make a point. I am sure that he has gently veered his children off of the path of high sugar and refined carbs and frequent snacking.
19 Jun 16 by member: debrafrederick
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If you look at the time-line when the videos were posted they are 1-3 years old, a lot can change in that time-frame.
19 Jun 16 by member: debrafrederick
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I had that idle thought as well, mskestrela. "Why doesn't he go to the school and insist they stop feeding his son goldfish?" Years of yo-yo weight loss and gains and a body that keeps setting its weight higher describes me to a tee. My blood sugars are normal, though. Anyway, so far, so good. This is doable.
19 Jun 16 by member: LadyinDenim
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