stacecom

Start Weight:(29 Jul 13) 209.0 lb
Current Weight:(01 Mar 14) 186.0 lb
Goal Weight:180.0 lb
following: Post Bariatric Surgery Diet
performance: losing 0.9 lb a week

FatSecret member since: 06 Dec 09

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An Open Letter....
sukiki wrote:
Everyone wants 'the right to post their opinion' on this site yet everyone attacks the person who doesn't agree with them like they don't have the same right. I was polite, I stated my OPINION on the situation, I said nothing about your rights to yours.


If I may.

sukiki wrote:
Being none of us pay a cent to FatSecret, imho, none of us have a lick of a right to criticize them or expect them to face lawsuits just to make our lives (and desire to get a paid program for free) easier.
(emphasis added)
posted 05 May 2010, 17:05
An Open Letter....
Whoa. That post is a scarily defensive reply to a pretty much straight-facts post I made. If I may, a few points:

1) I know more than one site/software/product that once used the WW points, and when they were asked to stop, they simply said that WW asked them to stop, and that they would. There's no defamation going on there. You're making quite a leap of logic. Until FatSecret says WW asked them to stop, I think everyone here is making a pretty broad assumption when they put the blame there.

2) None of us pay a cent to FatSecret. We do, however, pay with our eyeballs. FatSecret isn't some philanthropist organization doing this out of the kindness of their hearts. They are in this to make money, and their doing so requires our presence on the site. We're perfectly entitled to say what we like and don't like. And we can vote with our eyeballs and stop using it if we want.

Personally, I'm willing to work around it. The conveniences outweigh the inconveniences. But don't claim we don't have a right to say what we like or don't.
posted 05 May 2010, 14:05
The Reality
Question. Has FatSecret said that WW made them take the points off? Everything I read from them says that it's a choice *they* made so as not to show favortism.

And K8yk, I'm a paying WW member. I just liked using this site to track my points. WW is more than just the points. This site is just a convenient way for me to journal, especially with the barcode scanner on my phone. Not everyone is "stealing".
posted 05 May 2010, 13:49
An Open Letter....
Marisseli77 wrote:
I pay for Weight Watchers, I attend the meetings, but I found it easiser to count my points through Fat Secret since I sit behind my computer all day at work. I am disappointed, I thought that it was a helpful tool. Points are just one part of the WW program and any other paying member will say the same thing.


Paying member here. I completely concur.

Everyone here is assuming that WW made fatsecret.com remove the point counts. However, that is not fatsecret's stance. They claim it is to avoid 'favortism' towards any one particular diet.

I buy *many* non-Weight Watchers foods that include the point values on the package. Some of them are licensing it (and even using the WW logo), but others aren't. Some just call them "food points". But the fact remains, there are ways around WW having to protect their publicly readable patent.

Shortly after first joining WW, I learned to calculate points in my head for the foods I eat. (It's really easy: 50 Cals=1 pt, 12g fat=1 pt, 4g or more of fiber=-1 pt.) The calculating wasn't what was useful for me.

What was useful was that instead of carrying around a journal and something to write down with, or instead of typing things into my phone, I could use the database of foods provided by other members here, and add them to my diary quickly. The "Calorie Counter" Android app replaced my Journal. I could now track everything I ate easily, and see a running total of my points.

It's not a perfect WW replacement, mind you, and I didn't use it that way. It doesn't tell you how many points you can eat in a day. It doesn't track any of your 35 extra points per week. It doesn't calculate points earned for exercise. But, just from a food tracking POV, it was awesome.

Now, from my phone, I'm okay -- I'm not adding the update. Ditto for my iPad. So, on the website I don't get to see the WW points, unless I can get the greasemonkey script to work right on my machine.

So I'll get by, but they've gone and removed what was a useful tool for people trying to lose weight. And, I think, lost sight of what we're supposed to be doing here.
posted 04 May 2010, 12:54
WW Points -- Kinda Sorta Back?
This is working fairly well for me. I have a suggestion and a bug report.

Suggestion: Have the script apply to fatsecret.org as well as www.fatsecret.org. I couldn't get mine to work until I added that into the URL filter.

Bug report: It's tracking my points per meal and per item, but I don't get the "WW" and total in the top columns.

I'm running FF 3.6.3, and Mac OS 10.5.8
posted 04 May 2010, 09:18
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27 August 2013

Not sure if fluid, fat, or muscle. Tracking food intake all the same.
on diet Post Bariatric Surgery Diet  gaining 6.5 lb a week

10 August 2013

Yup. That happened.

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