Looped's Journal, 23 November 2017

I can offer support and I do! But not much guidance since our WOE is so different. And I haven't been eating the way I should for the last couple weeks. I try to keep my calories from going over 1000 as much as possible and right now only have 2 meals a day - don't eat after 2pm. 

👍 @Fritzy! It's all about the carbs with me, just can't eat them till I lose more. I eat supper at 4:30pm nothing after that cept water till breakfast 

I know it is frustrating. Hang in there. It could be water or possibly muscle gain. Make sure you are logging everything and weighing or measuring your portions. Keep taking your measurements. Hopefully you will get a big whoosh soon. You may need to redo your macros if you have lost weight from when you started 

You've been losing over all. I have learned that weight fluctuations can be quite extreme and to pay more attention to the overall trend. I took a quick peak at a couple of your food entries and your calories seemed kind of high to be honest but perhaps you are way taller than me? 

I heard from my endocrinologist office yesterday that my blood work has an abnormality. I'm thinking it's related to the hypothyroidism.  

I've actually been weighing daily, recording literally everything and reset my macros before the weight gain and I'm still under the RDI. Frustrating. 

Please send me a message if you want to consult on all the particulars. 

I got up to my highest weight of 262 lb. all the while that my doctors were telling me I didn't have thyroid problems because my TSH was normal. They wouldn't give me any thyroid for years while I had all the symptoms of hair falling out, low body temperature, fatigue, joint pains, etc. Finally I found a doctor who would give me dessicated thyroid (not Synthroid) and the weight began to fall off. I'm down over 100 lb. now. Don't weigh daily when you are not losing. It is too discouraging. 

TO AVOID this ..discouragement ...I only weigh once a week ....at goal time...I might change but not now.... 

You may be on to something with the weigh ins @Judyrose1997 

I know. I go down in tenths and back up a day or so later. Can’t break the cycle. I really would like to lose 5 lbs. I know it’s not much but I feel it. I’m 67 year old Grammy and have accepted my age is not in my favor 🤣 

Yes I agree Big Time... Weigh once a week! I'm not on Keto. Don't know anything about it but "Once a Week' only Good Luck. Hang in! 

I got to my top weight @JosieSchmosie also while being told I had no thyroid issue. I had the very exact experience to the point of one of those fine pieces of #### referring me for counseling when I got angry with the doctor telling me he had no idea what a T4 test was. I have a hate/love for MDs but I love nutritionists. So far however, no thyroid medication has provided the results you've seen and I've been on them all. I am really counting on Keto because I don't know what else there is. I am going to avoid the scale for a few days and see what my endocrinologist (who I keep meaning to drop for a nutritionist) has to say about my blood work. 

My nutritionist tells me to eat between 1200 to 1400 calories daily and to get 30 minutes of some kind of exercise. Could you not be eating enough calories? 

Looped, have you tried Westhroid Pure (WP) thyroid? I was taking Nature-throid but then it quit working, as they seem to mess with the formulas a lot. WP has no cellulose binders. Be sure and read the book "Stop the Thyroid Madness" and go to her website. She has information on why you may not be getting results.Often endocrinologists are the worst at helping people with thyroid problems as they are rigid about the TSH test, using only Synthroid, and giving you too low dose. People often have to resort to medicating themselves. Right now there is a dessicated thyroid shortage. 

Eating keto may give lower thyroid test results, but it has not been shown to cause or exacerbate thyroid problems. Please read VirtaHealth.com/does-your-thyroid-need-dietary-carbohydrates/ 

Leptin--the hunger/satiety hormone is the driver for thyroid drop and cortisol increase when we reduce caloric intake. So, if I increase calories (some may call this a re-feed) for 2 straight days my thyroid is more active, my cortisol level drops, and my leptin (hunger response) is negated. Some people do this by accident and call it the dreaded 'cheat day' but actually a better accident is a 2 days of cheating. Our bodies inherently do not like to give up the fat stores. Last, a silly analogy. The other day, on a 2 way street, a police cruiser hopped the double yellow, blew past cars waiting at the nearby light. He (1) avoided traffic (2) got their faster but (3) ultimately increased the likelihood of an accident. Dieting in summary is close to this. I try to stay in my lane (my chosen method of intake), I get there slower but with higher likelihood of success and success I measure by not crashing. So, maybe review and look at the science behind leptin/thyroid/cortisol and some carb increasing to allow for those hormones to work in your favor. 

I didn't realize you were doing keto, Looped. I have done that in the past but recently learned it is bad for hypothyroids. Learn why here: https://www.dietvsdisease.org/low-carb-hypothyroidism/ 

Westhroid and Naurethroid are both unavailable. It seems they are two of the drugs produced in Puerto Rico however I don't notice a difference from one drug to the other. I have a strong suspicion that leptin may be an issue. I have routinely had the identical experience of steady weight loss only to be followed by steady Wright gain regardless of WOE. My body knows when I am trying to deprive it of anything and starts a revolt at the cellular level. I have to figure this out once and for all.