mskestrela's Journal, 24 July 2016

AGREED i only gained after chemical poisoning lost pituitary and then it started soo much like lack of sleep side effects from meds , hormones , thyroid is common most thin people think u just over eat its not 

for 6 mo i stopped refined sugar no 1 no2 processed foods fast foods dairy pasta and white potatoes, breads pizza subs ect i eat what i grow in season if u eat clean u can eat all u want and lose even with health issues but it is sacrifice and life change 

Thank you @jw. Yes, sir....it's time to get back to REAL food. 

Tomorrow is the first day of the rest of you life. I like this statement.I have been overweight and I do not think I stumbled on this cite by mistake I think it was ordain. I Thank God for it. I track my food and have joined a gym. Please keep me in prayer I have a long JOURNEY.  

I understand My name is LOU not sir lol but can you view my food????? I eat constantly as a matter of fact dinner was eating 3 hours non stop , for me and I got many health issues its not mount of food it is quality of food message me please if u do not understand but ! thing I was like you eating little 1200 calories a day when I did diet I lost very slow till I hired a trainer he caculated my current exercise of 2.5 to 3 hr a day however this was all i got I am retired I was burning more calories exerciseing that i ate , he said u need to stop exercising soo much and eat double clean calories , I was like fighting him he said give me a month I said ok I gave in but for me if i gain I die due to issues he stopped my cardio yoga pilates ect , had me woork out 1 hr 3x week with a few hrs cardio and go from 120 to 2500 and double fat intake first few days i felt sick and vomited so , if u read my journal i had to switch gyms but added a bit more but kept the double calories , here is explaination body goes into starvation mode the food u eat turns to fat and body eats muscle , so I did it now since july8 to 24 I dropped from 223 to 214 eating double exercising less when i ate 1200 i would of lost maybe 1 pound he was correct honest i see u are 800 calories I know if people have gastric bypass they eat little and lose quick but with out surgery u need to eat clean and more and incorrect exercise 850 calories is way too little please read all i eat , what i eat in 1 day was 2 or more days food and i losing faster message me please I am not a know it all but all i learned id like to share with you thanks LOU 

Thanks for the info. Blessings to you for sharing your veggies. Be Blessed 

Good drop, Kes. 

Nice loss. After reading "The Diet Delusion" I came to the same way of thinking as you. 

Calories don't matter if you avoid sugary, starchy, processed, and refined foods, of course it takes a great deal of discipline to avoid "treats" and "reward" foods, and people will go to great lengths to justify continued consumption of such poison, psychotic and anti-social lengths, even, it's really kind of sad, but there are better ways and we can lead by example.  

@Diamond Quarters, I wish you all the best on this adventure! Stay firm in your goals and your faith, and you will succeed. 

@LOU, I'm a Southern girl, and the daughter of a military man. I grew up saying "Yes ma'am" and "Yes, sir" as a sign of respect. I appreciate your concern about my calories, but I'm doing intermittent fasting, only eating once a day. I'm also doing the ketogenic diet, and once you switch to burning fat instead of glucose, you don't get hungry. Think about this: if you store fat as survival insurance against lean times, why would your body try to burn muscle when those lean times hit? These amazing flesh suits we wear are too smart for that. The only time 'starvation mode' becomes a problem is once your fat stores are gone. I eat as much as I want when I do eat. And as long as I keep my macros balanced with clean foods, I'm healthier than I've ever been.  

Thanks Jocko and Doobs! 

Absolutely, Phil!Every time I hear people talk about rewarding with food, I think of a dog being trained. LOL It either takes discipline, or retraining your brain. After i researched, and learned how damaging processed 'food' is, I started seeing it as poison. Now, when I pass the cereal and snack aisles, all I see is rat poison on the shelves. NO temptation whatsoever. 

I've told a few people on here that they're NOT dogs and don't need treats, of course, like a lot of other things I've posted, it was quickly mischaracterized and given the worst possible interpretation, which again, goes back to the anti-social and psychotic aspects of people justifying the continued consumption of poison foods, I agree 100% with your view on those sort of foods, I wouldn't drink anti-freeze, so too wouldn't I eat other poisons.  

I'm sorry but the notion that sugars and processed foods per se are the cause of obesity is completely false. While its true that you can associate the rise of obesity with increased sugar consumption, you can also associate it with the rise in total calorie consumption. As for "clean eating", I see obese and overweight people literally every day, who are avoiding processed, refined foods and overeating on "clean" foods, in particular healthy fats. The idea that calories are irrelevant could not be further from the truth. @MSK, you say you're doing intermittent fasting, only eating once a day, and are not hungry because you're doing a ketogenic diet. If all these things are in place, you are losing weight because you're in a deficit, not because these food choices are better than eating carbs or processed foods. As for muscle loss, you will absolutely lose muscle if your carb and protein intake are too low. Again, this is something you would never know if you didn't do a DXA scan or BodPod and only relied on the scale. I'm sure many of you are going to argue with me, but please keep in mind that I work with hundreds of clients from across the country, and we make every one of them have their body composition and metabolism measured on a regular basis. We don't use the scale to track progress. We use an "if it fits your macros" approach and every one of them loses fat weight if they follow the plan.  

Sugar lights up the opioid receptors in the brain. It is more highly addictive than cocaine for some users. For me it is an addiction; I can't have just a little, because it triggers cravings and binging. I come from a long line of alcoholics, and it is my experience that this is my addiction. Some people are just wired that way. You can site what works for hundreds of clients, but you can't deny my experience, and I know it holds true for many others. There's a very good video series about it on dietdoctor.com. Obesity is a symptom of my illness, not the cause. Please learn about it, because maybe some of your clients are suffering the same disability.  

@erika I am very aware of sugar's effects on the brain, and you are right in that it's addictive for SOME users. That however, does not make it poison, and does not make it the cause of obesity. I am absolutely not denying your experience. The larger problem is that many people in this forum (not you) look at their own personal experience and extrapolate that out to everyone, putting their experience forth as fact. Dietdoctor is a commercial website promoting keto and low carb, so of course they are going to promote a low carb philosophy. Again, this doesn't mean sugar or other carbs are bad. There is obviously more than one way to lose weight, as is evidenced by the multiple strategies on this forum. I just feel a professional responsibility to voice my opinion when people say that carbs are bad and that they are the cause of obesity. It's completely untrue. 

Erika, you are absolutely correct. I was on a Dr. supervised diet many years ago that had me eating 700 calories a day, almost exclusively grain and veggie based. I managed to GAIN 2 pounds a week on that, and no, I wasn't building muscle. @TMiller, I never said that calories don't matter, or that eating at a deficit isn't a key to weight loss. What I *am* saying is that not all calories are the same, and the IIFYM paradigm doesn't work for people who are insulin resistant or otherwise metabolically challenged. If the simplistic CICO plan worked, then what you're saying is that gluttony and sloth are to blame. Blame the victim mentality. I have a friend who is extremely insulin sensitive. She is rail thin...too skinny, as I see it. Yet she can out-eat me 3 to 1, and never gain an ounce. I come from a long line of diabetics, and have been insulin resistant for years. The steps I'm taking are as much to repair that problem as to lose weight. I congratulate you on your success with your clients, but I'm confident with my plan, and with my research. 

A few years back, I lost 70 lbs on Weight Watchers, so that worked for me in a sense. But because it allowed fruit and other sugars, it involved a lot of backsliding and guilt, bingey sidetracks, slow going and misery. Plus it didn't heal my sugar problems, so as soon as I relaxed, the weight all came back, bringing more ill health, guilt and self-loathing. LCHF allows me to eat to satiety, delicious foods and this WOE has healed a plethora of problems, including depression, sleep apnea, arthritus. I'm about to zoom past that old 70 lb. loss again, only this time, I know how to keep it off, and how to eat in a way that's healthy for me -my body and my brain. My doctor, by the way, is more than impressed and encouraging. Kes, you are right, it's about healing a damaged metabolism. 

Sugar: if it's addictive and people abuse it to the detriment of their health, then it is an addictive poisonous drug in my book. I need to avoid it like the plague. It made me gain 125 lbs and ruin my health. That's a serious, serious threat.