SelinaMinus60's Journal, 24 July 2009

Added an extra weigh in yesterday because I finally came off my TOM, and wanted to see if the gain was water weight and it mostly was which is nice to know. I'm starting to feel better so I'm thinking gym this weekend if i can make it :) My personal goal set at the start of this was to lose 10lbs by 29th July and I am 3lbs off that goal at the moment so that is my goal for this week is to break through the 170 mark and to lose at least 3lbs bringing me into the 160's finally!

OK and now for what is probably going to end up as a messy rant but is mainly something I've been mulling over for a while.

Why is there no middle ground?

A few weeks ago i was wasting time on Facebook as you do and something popped up on the side it was a group called real women have boobs, bums and tums to which I clicked become a fan of or join or whatever it was, because I do think that real women have curves and wobbly bits and I honestly would never want anything else for myself. I think curvy women like scarlet johannson beat stick insects like keira knightly hands down. But when i looked further into this facebook page on its wall and the forums i was shocked to find so many women talking about the joys of being obese and i don't mean a little plump but seriously health worringly obese, some of these women were so proud of being so overweight and it worries me, if children are growing up with role models like this then it will become the norm for them to not care about thier health. I feel like in this world no one is ever happy with being in the middle, being average everyone wants to be an extreme. the biggest, the smallest, the richest or the most famous and it makes me sad. blah end of messy rant

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Too late, it already is the norm for people not to care about their health. It seems that even with 2/3 of people in the U.S. being overweight (with similar statistics for the U.K.), we still haven't hit bottom. I hate to think of how far we have to fall before we get back up again. 
24 Jul 09 by member: Divided By Zero
Glad the scale is being nice again! I agree with your rant. But it's like most issues - there will be extremists at either end of the spectrum. Sounds like that group isn't a good fit for you. But the good thing is, you know your values and desires well enough to know where you want and need to be!  
24 Jul 09 by member: amryk
I totally agree with your rant. I just saw a preview of a new reality series in the US called... oh geez, the name just dropped. I want to say Big Love, but I don't think thats it. Hold on, let me google it. Okay, it's called "More to Love". It's like the Bachelor, only all the women are bigger. The bachelor says he likes bigger women, but I hate that we have to create TV shows that focus on weight. Why can't it just be The Bachelor, and women of all sizes go on it? Oh that's right-- because we are an image-obsessed world! OKAY, I am settling down! ANYWAY, on to you: Congrats on seeing the 160s soon! I know you can do it! How is weight watchers going still? Are you enjoying the meetings? Keep me posted, I've been so out of it the past two weeks I feel totally out of the loop with you! :o) 
24 Jul 09 by member: lgatzke
The thing that bothers me about more to love is that they used a fat guy with the fat girls. How often do you see a skinny guy with a heavy girl. Alot actually... My husband is one of those skinny men that likes girls with meat on em. Its not just a fat guy that likes fat girls. The ad says that a woman average in us is 14/16. I honestly dont think one of those women is 14/16. On the pretense of tolerance and acceptace we have made it ok to be unhealthy. I have even read things that say sometimes its healtheir to be heavy and in shape than skinny and not in shape. OK i agree with that a bit... BUT shouldnt it also say that its best to be fit and inshape and the right size? We live in extremes for weight. its either size 2 or 22. Its not politically correct for a doc to tell someone they need to lose weight anymore. Its not ok for anyone to say that. Its a love yourself attitude... but its love yourself to death it seems. I dont want my kids to be heavy but I dont want them focused on their weight either. I want them to be healthy. Period.  
24 Jul 09 by member: aletheab
Clearly people with body issues just like anyone else. There's a group for everything, and that group is probably not the best group for you. I agree with everyone else that it is starting to become the norm, but hopefully people start to become a little more health conscious in the future that being frighteningly obese doesn't become the right thing to do. 
24 Jul 09 by member: FakePlasticLala
alethab i tottally agree on the whole fat boy with fat girl in the media thing its one of the things that irritates me a lot like there is a terrible girl film called sleepover where the fat girl finally finds a boy who is of course fat too and they bond over brownies!!! i was just like whaaa why cant she end up with the really hot guy and bond over something not food related i mean just because she is bigger it doesn't mean the only thing she likes is FOOD gah :/ I have mostly dated guys who are slim not skinny because i like big broad men :P especially with a little bit of a beer belly yum :P lgatze - weightwatchers is going well but i havent been able to go to meetings im too poor but its ok because i have the food list and thats what i need :P amyrk and lala - I'm not annoyed at the group itself and i'm not bothered that its there if those women are happy then thats ok it just started of the train of thought etc ah well x 
24 Jul 09 by member: SelinaMinus60
The sad thing is, at 260 pounds I would have told you I was healthy. I didn't even see myself as fat, just a bit chubby. I look back at pictures now and think... How the hell did I not see it? It was just a defense mechanism. I thought that since I wasn't on meds or as long as I didn't get too large for my XL shirts that I was okay. I don't know if that's what goes on with that group, but I did the same thing. On a side note... Hooray for women with curves and wobbly bits! LOL 
24 Jul 09 by member: Divided By Zero
Selina, I think a lot of it has to do with the push towards self-esteem that was popular in public schools in the 1980s. We had a meeting every few weeks (I was in grade school, so the memory on particulars is fuzzy) where you talked about things you liked about yourself and they told you that it was OK to have some physical difference from your peers. For the larger kids they said that they should be proud of their difference for being big. Fast forward 25 years and we see who don't care that they may have serious health issues since their self-image is out of touch with reality. Totally inductive reasoning, but that is the only explanation I can come up with. Out of curiosity, what were the "joys" they were talking about? 
24 Jul 09 by member: wintersmith
Lol... Wobbly bits. I totally agree. Women SHOULD have curves. CURVES, not masses of rolls and dimples... The health risks are just too dangerous to be that big... It is scary that some women and men are proud to be that big. What really gets me though... is that science is trying to find ways to make it easy for these big people to get small. I read an article a long time ago about basically, exercise in a pill. Mice that were consuming this medication were getting fitter just by taking it. The medication is intended to help get morbidly obese people to a point where they can start exercising and moving around again so that they can continue to lose weight on their own. Yeah... We all know THAT'S gonna happen... Grr.  
26 Jul 09 by member: Starladesiree

     
 

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