JackieSpahr's Journal, 21 February 2018

Struggling to stay with my keto WOE. Have been fighting weakness and dizziness for weeks. I'm sure it's due to deficiency in potassium and sodium. My past experience (of which I have a great deal under doctor's supervision) is when I'm in ketosis I have to supplement sodium and potassium. Sodium is easy. Knorr bullion 2x daily along with salting my food. Potassium is another matter. When in keto under a physician I usually got up to 4 - 5 of those big KCL tabs. I'm searching high potassium low carb foods. Increased avocado and leafy greens. I've increased magnesium (have to watch diarrhea) and calcium. I've cut down on water, drinking only probiotic drinks. I received an electrolyte supplement from my Naturopath in the mail today so I can knock that off. For now I'm allowing my carbs an increase and upped calories a couple 100. All this is to say, if I can't get my water up and my strength and stamina back I may have to go off keto. I hate to think that because this WOE really suits this carbaholic. Wish me luck.
162.6 lb Lost so far: 8.4 lb.    Still to go: 17.6 lb.    Diet followed reasonably well.

Diet Calendar Entry for 21 February 2018:
1362 kcal Fat: 99.87g | Prot: 61.72g | Carb: 71.85g.   Breakfast: Knorr Beef Bouillon Cubes, Sparkling Probiotic Drink Mojito Lime Mint Coconut, Chia Powder, Almond Breeze Unsweetened Vanilla Milk, Stevia in the Raw, Coarse Sea & Himalayan Salt, Vanilla Extract, Heavy Cream, Quest Chocolate Chip Cookie Dough Protein Bar, Stevia, Coffee, Heavy Cream. Lunch: Caesar Dressing, Green Giant Hass Avocado, Land O'Lakes Salted Butter, Cooked Broccoli (Fat Not Added in Cooking), Parmesan Cheese (Grated), Cooked Cauliflower (Fat Added in Cooking), Chicken Leg (Skin Eaten), Brussels Sprouts, Kale. Snacks/Other: KeVita Sparkling Probiotic Drink Mojito Lime Mint Coconut, Stevia in The Raw (Packet), Butter, Coffee, Heavy Cream. more...
gaining 4.2 lb a week

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I have been frustrated with the electrolyte balance too. I felt yucky a couple of weeks ago but seem to be doing a little better. If you have to change diets, it’s not too big of a deal. Just count calories and try to avoid sugar and you should still lose. But I know what you mean...this woe makes my cravings less intense and I feel less hungry so it seems easier to stick with than other times I’ve tried to lose weight. Health before weight always though! It’s definitely more important. Good luck! 
21 Feb 18 by member: momma6224
The way I have found for the electrolyte and magnesium and potassium is to go to Natural Grocers (could probably do Amazon) get pink Himalayan salt and use 1/2-1 tsp per day on your food. Has all the electrolytes and sodium you need. As for the magnesium, all the pill forms will give you diarrhea because they don’t get fully absorbed. ( Read ,’The Magnesium Miracle, by Dr. Carolyn Douglas I believe is the author.) If you purchas liquid Ionic Magnesium (I use Good State ordered off Amazon.💁🏻‍♀️I take 400 mg of the chelated pills that don’t totally absorb throughout the day, then I put another 200 mg worth into a glass of tea that I drink at night. Tastes nasty but I drink it quick! This is pretty much all absorbed by the body and put to use! No diarhhea. Or there is also magnesium you can spray on your skin as well to deliver it into your bloodstream. For the potassium I bought 99 mg pills at Natural Grocers that I take separate from the calcium and the C and D. And C and D are taken separate from each other, but D, calcium, and k (half of the amount of D lol!) are all taken together...whew! Now if that doesn’t sound like one of those logic puzzles? LOL 😂 A normal multivitamin, my D, K, B complex, and I take selenium for other reasons. As well as turmeric and I’m now trying cumin. I think that’s most of my supplement list at this point. 🤷🏻‍♀️Sometimes it takes awhile to get it all sorted out. I spent the first year and a half on double doses of women’s over 50 multi-vitamins as well as calcium citrate and my D. Didn’t start feeling a whole lot better until I got my iron levels straight and my B vitamins. Plus I have fibromyalgia so my vitamin D is always tanking. LOL It’s taken a long time to get somewhat close and I still tweak it. Good luck Hon. 🙋🏻‍♀️Only you can know what makes you feel best! But take a good look at what is out there and write down your questions for your doctor. I keep a running list for mine on my phone. 💁🏻‍♀️ 
22 Feb 18 by member: smprowett
Without getting into specifics, low carb foods would be...Meat,Poultry,Fish,Eggs. Banana a day has around 427mg cheap in cost. Eating food for health is better for you than relying on pills etc. 
22 Feb 18 by member: murphthesurf
I agree with most of what Momma said, but supplements hide sugars. Stevia in the Raw is mostly cane sugar. What is in your bar? Most of them have grains, honey, or sugar and chemicals in them. Eat real food. If you are trying to do keto, you have to stay under 20 carbs. Avocados have much more potassium per ounce than bananas do with far fewer grams of carbohydrates. Sea salt, pink salt, etc. have many of the minerals you need. Natural, free-range chickens lay eggs with most of the vitamins and minerals you need. I hope this helps! Best wishes on your chosen WOE. 
22 Feb 18 by member: moogiemynes
I meant to agree with Smprowett's general discussion. 
22 Feb 18 by member: moogiemynes
What is Keto WOE? 
22 Feb 18 by member: oshauncf
Thank you all for your suggestions and good thoughts. I'm feeling a bit less shaky today but not sparky, healthy by any stretch. I'm sure that's addition of more sodium. With the need for 3500 - 4500 mg of potassium a day it takes some thought. Bananas are not the best source. High carb less pot than other loe carb better choices such as avocado and spinach. Most of the best choices are way high carbs. The electrolytes will help. I'm going to give it anothet week. This WOE (way of eating) is my first choice but there are other ways. Have a great day everyone. 
22 Feb 18 by member: JackieSpahr
what about zipfizz or lite salt, both have a good amount of potassium in them.  
22 Feb 18 by member: Michelle450to
Jackie, l should of explained my better Bananas are an inexpensive source of potassium 427mg..easy to eat,tasty. The other items were for low carbs.! 
22 Feb 18 by member: murphthesurf
That’s a huge need for potassium Jackie! Wow! 🙋🏻Watermelon is also high, and salted when you eat it it kills two birds. LOL But I can’t see a way around supplents in some form when your needs are that high for an imbalance. 🙇🏻‍♀️I have some of the same issues on my D and B and since surgeries on my stomach I don’t absorb nutrients as well so they monitor and I have to supplement with others. I can’t eat enough food in a day to get my vitamins, minerals and electrolytes into my system. So while Murph is essentially right, he’s only correct if you have a healthy digestive system that can absorb enough calories to digest the nutrients in the food you need and if the food is good quality, ie. not canned or frozen to start with. 🤷🏻‍♀️And the only supplements that usually harbor calories Mooglieyes (usually, not always the only one! Lol) are the gummy ones or chewables; the straight pill forms have a tendency to be just the chemical and magnesium stearate as a binder, or be in a gelatin capsule. But reading labels so you know what you are ingesting is always the way to go. And no matter who you are, supplementing with a good probiotic in our culture that takes all the good bacteria away with the bad is just sensible! I’ve had 100% fewer colds and flues in the 3 years that I have religiously been taking a probiotic. Since they are replacing the bacteria in your digestive tract they are a good thing. Webused to help it along with the bacteria from the cheeses and moldy things and yogurts and non-homogenized juices we drank. Slightly dangerous, but it helped keep the bacteria that live there strong and ‘healthy’ in there weird way. Now in our homoginized world where we only add specific bacteria back most of the time, a probiotic that adds MANY or all of the strains needed is really important. Especially since candida overgrows when fed sugars and corn syrup and with what is now believed about the function of the appendix. That it is the repository for all of these beneficial bacteria that our immune system and digestion need! 🤷🏻‍♀️Sorry to get on my soapbox Jackie! 🙋🏻🙋🏻🙋🙋🙋 
22 Feb 18 by member: smprowett

     
 

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