myawethinTICself's Journal, 13 April 2014

Quote:
"Our thought about perfect men & women have changed drastically from the time the bible was written." --Puhpine

PERFECTION

Todays Journal is in reflection to my friend Mauds comment on my last Journal Entry. If you find this difficult to follow I invite you to read the previous Journal Entry for the background. Maudes comment is quoted above.

What is perfection? That can be a tricky question! Asked of different people you can get that many different answers. So then, *who's* to say which answer given is right?
Imagine that you are surrounded with a multitude of doctors. Which we are in a sense. There is no shortage of physicians when you look in a phone book.They consist of:Chiropractors, Dentists,Dermatologists,Holistic, Neurologists ,Obstetricians,Optometrists,Orthopedists,Psychologists, Surgeons,Veterinarians, & the list can go on. Now,with this vast array of knowledge before you,you want to ask a question concerning a torn ligament or a first pregnancy. Who would you ask?
Given that ligaments & pregnancy are 2 very different things I would *hope* you would seek your answers from the source that's most authoritative on the subject.
So back to our question "What is perfection?" Our vast array of knowledge surrounding us in hopes of an "authoritative" answer would include: the Dictionary! After all that *is* the purpose of the book-to give definitions of words.But we must keep in mind that this book,the Dictionary,was authored by humans & while there is absolutely nothing wrong with that,humans are *not* perfect. Unless the definition given in the Dictionary agrees with what the Bible has recorded on the subject,the answer it gives is *not* the source that's *most* athouritative on the subject. Even tho' the Bible,too, was penned by imperfect humans,*those* imperfect humans "spoke from God as they were borne along by holy spirit."--2Peter1:20-21
And He,God,*is* the authority on the subject as He *is* perfect.
What does He say about the matter? "All Scripture is inspired of God & beneficial for....setting things straight...."--2Timothy3:16

Maud mentioned in her comment(last journal) that the Apostle James probably doesn't speak about external appearances. She is correct in that the Scriptures say very little about *Jesus* physical appearance however it tells us all we need to know in order to answer the question regarding perfection. :D
Many may think of the first Man & Woman,Adam & Eve, when we talk about perfection.They were the first perfect humans before Jehovah God(Psalm 83:18)sent his Son,Jesus Christ,to be born as a man on earth. So what exactly made these 3 people perfect? Was it their external,physical appearance? No doubt they were attractive.The Bible describes Jesus as :"..indeed more handsome than the sons of men...."(Psalm 45:2)
And listen to this description of *perfection*-(Ezekiel 28:13-15)
"In Eden,the garden of God,you proved to be. Every precious stone was your covering,ruby,topaz, & jasper;chrysolite,onyx & jade;sapphire, turquoise & emerald; & of gold was the workmanship of your settings
& your sockets in you.In the day of your being created they were made ready.You are the anointed cherub that is covering, I have set you. On the holy mountain of God you proved to be. In the midst of fiery stones you walked about.You were *faultless*(perfect)from the day of your being created...." It certainly seems as if perfection is an outer appearance, doesn't it? But the scripture does't end there. ".....you were *faultless*(perfect) from the day you were created until *unrighteousness* was found *in* you."
We learn from this that unrighteousness is a defect to perfection.It isn't simply a little surface scratch that doesn't matter. The defect that turns perfection UGLY comes from *inside*. In that scripture,God was describing an anointed,angelic cherub *before* he made himself Satan the Devil. Let's go back to Psalms where it was speaking about Jesus. Where did *hi*s outstanding handsomeness come from?
"...Charm has poured out upon your lips...."His perfection/handsomeness came from his *faithfulness* & his *unbending integrity* as he preached the message of his Fathers Kingdom to others.(Luke 4:22;John 7:46)That scripture goes on to explain, because of Jesus' *wholehearted devotion* Jehovah "blessed him to time indefinite." Comparing the 2 examples we learn that Satan's beauty/perfection was short lived because of what was found in him while Jesus kept his handsomeness/perfection forever because of what was in him. Before we conclude on the answers to what perfection is & is it an external or internal feature I want to share one final scripture that is sure to "set matters straight".(scrip.quoted above)
"..Jehovah said to Samuel: 'Do not look at his appearance & at the height of his stature,for I have rejected him. For not the way man sees is the way God sees,but because mere man sees what appears to the eyes;but as for Jehovah,he sees what the heart is."--1 Samuel 16:7

Quote:
"Our thought about perfect men/women have changed *drastically* from the time the bible was written.."--Puhpine

The world in which we all must live & it's views are designed to alienate us from God but ultimately *we* get a choice in the matter! :D


Diet Calendar Entry for 13 April 2014:
1511 kcal Fat: 44.78g | Prot: 50.63g | Carb: 225.35g.   Breakfast: EAS AdvantEDGE Carb Control Shake - French Vanilla. Lunch: Tap Water, Realemon 100% Natural Strength Lemon Juice from Concentrate, CiCi's Pizza 12" Alfredo Buffet Pizza, CiCi's Pizza Brownies, CiCi's Pizza Cinnamon Rolls, CiCi's Pizza Garlic Bread, CiCi's Pizza 12" Pepperoni Buffet Pizza. Snacks/Other: No Sugar Added Fat Free Ice Cream (Flavors Other Than Chocolate). more...

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I am arriving at the conclusion that 'perfection' is based on 'comparison' and that is what screws me up. Quoting Albert Einstein — 'Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.' 
14 Apr 14 by member: FullaBella
Interesting conclusion you are arriving at,especially since you say "that is what screws (you) up". I don't think *I* would accept as *my* final answer something I felt screws me up. But please don't feel that I'm comparing *us* to one another because I'm not. Just stating my belief *with* yours. I am of the thought that since no 2 people are identical,no 2 people *should* be compared. As your Einstein quote alludes to,judging one by anothers abilities leads to an undesirable state of being,at least for the one being judged/compared. WHY would *anyone* CHOOSE to conform their thinking to such a belief? When I was in the hospital after giving birth to my first son, I found this "poem" on the wall & wrote it down. I'm sharing it with you & all other readers today. Hope it gives everyone reason for thought. CHILDREN LEARN WHAT THEY LIVE If a child lives with criticism,He learns to condemn. If a child lives with hostility,He learns to fight. If a child lives with ridicule,He learns to be shy. If a child lives with shame,He learns to feel guilty. If a child lives with tolerance,He learns to be patient. If a child lives with encouragement,He learns confidence. If a child lives with praise,He learns to appreciate. If a child lives with fairness,He learns justice. If a child lives with security,He learns to have faith. If a child lives with approval,He learns to like himself. If a child lives with acceptance & friendship, He learns to find love in the world. I don't know who is the author of this "poem" but *before* I accepted it as *my* final answer to life being as it is,I only "lived with hostility & encouragement"putting those 2 together doesn't make a pretty life. But *after* taking these words hanging on the hospitals wall to heart,CHOOSING to believe in them & teaching them as a way of life to myself & newborn son (& his brother 3 yrs later)I have learned *from experience* that this indeed,is the truth. We all here on fs *must believe* the words we accept can change our lives or we wouldn't be part of this site. We *all* have experienced transformation by words,whether it being for the better or not. Our thoughts *do* matter,they are not mere surface scratches. They go deep,even when we may not want them to.  
14 Apr 14 by member: myawethinTICself
Oh, I didn't say I'm accepting being screwed up - I just realize the more I worked on accepting that I'm perfect was originating over and over by comparing to others. The same as I realize being GRATEFUL requires a knowledge of others lacking; it's nearly impossible for me to (not) do so. For example, to say "I'm grateful I have a home, a roof over my head, a warm bed, a pantry of food, etc' means there is obviously someone out there who doesn't. Someone homeless or hungry. It's hard to recognize the good without acknowledging the bad and with that ((TO ME)) comes the comparison. To look at another person and utter the words 'there, but for the grace of God goes I' is again, a comparison. I'm working the same challenge as you and this morning trying to answer 'I'm grateful for my health' must require - to me - acknowledgement that there are others with health issues. Gratitude is necessary ~ better than negative. I just feel, and this is *me* - it brings comparison to a personal level.  
14 Apr 14 by member: FullaBella
I *think* I follow what you are saying :D at least I hope I am. For *me* the "comparing" is more positive when I am grateful to what *I* have now "compared" to what *I* didn't have before & leaving What others have/have not, out of the picture totally. I meet people on a regular basis that believe that without "bad days" they wouldn't be able to *appreciate* "good days". I truly do *not* understand that way of thinking. I have never,& cant imagine that I *ever* will,wake up one day & say to myself,"I hope today is a bad day so I will be able to appreciate when a good day comes along." Or anything similar to that line of reasoning. Rather,I just appreciate that *I* have *this* day & it will be the best day *I* can make it.  
14 Apr 14 by member: myawethinTICself

     
 

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