PhatPhrog's Journal, 04 May 2023

Another slight change in plans. I've noted previously that:

1. My plan for this (final!) round of weight loss was to do 36:12 fasting (ADF), but I wasn't seeing clear weight loss after each subsequent fast, and didn't want to be wasting effort or prolonging my weight loss, a particular risk without counting calories, even with fasting involved.

2. So I made a rule that if I wasn't lighter at the putative end of my current fast than after the previous fast, I would add 24h to the length of the current fast, which, according to the numbers on the scale, was shaping up to mean that I would be on a continuous 60:12 fasting schedule.

3. However, a couple of times on the day after an eating day, I found myself breaking what I had expected to be a 60h fast (or, with luck, a 36h fast) at about the 24h mark, without having yet weighed in lighter. I'd get (and give in to) the overwhelming urge to have a little snack, and then, no matter how disciplined I'd intended to be, the floodgates would fly open.

I was okay with the early fast-breaking overall (I want to stay flexible on this health journey and not stress over it too much, which would be counterproductive), but it required me to start the 60h over -- not for the sake of merely forcing myself through an unbroken 60h, but for the sake of abiding by my weight-loss rule and actually moving the scale with the fast, to ensure I was progressing and not wasting time and effort. I was then happily surprised to find the next 60h of fasting to be much easier, after the initial unintended break.

Currently:

For a third time, I broke a fast at 24h, turning a third consecutive two- or three-day cycle into a four-day cycle, and I've decided to lean into it. It seems that my body wants two days of eating between 60h fasts, so my "official" new routine will be 2:2, i.e. alternating two days of fasting with two days of eating, with a bit of a taper on the second eating day. Theoretically I'll still extend my fast even after 60h if I don't see a drop, but if things go as they have been, I won't need to.

Alternating on a 2d:2d schedule instead of my original 1d:1d (36h:12h) schedule shouldn't be all that different in terms of average calorie intake. However, so far I do tend to eat less on the second eating day, and also two days of fasting allows more time for glycogen depletion and for voiding of waste, so the comparison of my weights after each 2d fast is presumably more accurate, because the most likely confounding factors are more completely shed away.

So, so far so good, and we'll see what the future holds with this new plan.
194.4 lb Lost so far: 15.6 lb.    Still to go: 21.4 lb.    Diet followed reasonably well.
losing 2.8 lb a week

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I'm loving your downward trend. Great job! Continued success. 
08 May 23 by member: meonadiet
Thank you, and I wish the same to you! 
09 May 23 by member: PhatPhrog
Good for you for listening to your body. We all have our own rhythm…figuring it out is the hard part. I’m doing 16:8 fasting and my body feels good doing it! I have always felt like I could easily miss dinner but raising two daughters, I felt it was important to model healthy eating according to traditional models. They are in their mid to late teens now and are developing their own healthy routines. All the things we consider when we eat…. I applaud you for your diligence and flexibility. 
09 May 23 by member: MichelleDN57
Thank you. Congratulations on raising healthy children, and I'm glad you've found a method for yourself that your body takes to. It certainly does take some work to figure it out, particularly amid all the noise. As for modelling, we have a similar conundrum with our toddler. There's so much variation in how much or little he eats, and though he's always extremely energetic, and seems ahead of the curve in brain development, his physical growth curve fell into a low percentile in his first few months and he's stayed there ever since. We too want to model healthy eating, and even though there are those who claim that the evening meal in its current form is a relatively modern phenomenon, we feel that dinner is an important part of our our toddler's routine. Luckily[?] my partner can't skip dinner because she'd never be able to replenish the calories being extracted from her through breastfeeding. But as for me, I don't think I'd be losing weight right now if fasting weren't my method, and as I've mentioned before, I'm relatively old to have such young children, and I want to be healthy for them for as long as possible. I usually do sit in at dinner even when I'm fasting, and help feed the baby or read the toddler a story to keep him in his chair, but not long ago when I was caught up in some work, my partner told our son that I was fasting, and that that's something some grownups do to look after their health. So far it hasn't fazed him but we'll have to keep an eye on that. (At this stage, his most likely reason to "fast" would be to get out of his chair and back to whatever obstacle he was building in a thoroughfare of our house.) 
09 May 23 by member: PhatPhrog

     
 

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