-Diablo's Journal, 17 July 2018

So RMR can vary wildly depending on body fat percentage. I feel that this is a big reason some may claim CICO did not work for them. A female at 20-25% body fat will have a RMR closer to every pound multiplied by 10(say a 120 pound woman would have a RMR of 1200) and an obese woman of 250lbs will be closer to a pound multiplied by 7(RMR of 1750). Same goes for men at say 10-12% body fat vs. a man at 25% body fat. So imagine even if someone is 300 pounds multiply that by 7 and their RMR is only 2100 calories. This would apply to sedentary people with little muscle mass underneath the fat. Someone who was a weight lifter in high school or some kind of athlete will have a higher RMR which is why they are usually the winners of shows like the Biggest Loser or other weight loss challenges that you see on TV. How did they go from obese to jacked so quickly? Muscle memory.

Now these numbers may be off by a little but you get the drift. I think for men the numbers are slightly higher due to naturally being more muscular.

The point is that the calorie counts for activities on calorie counting websites like this one are going to be off by a lot for the dieters who are heavy to very heavy.

This explains why for me, it has been pretty accurate since I've been a member and why others see it as being way off.

Diet Calendar Entries for 17 July 2018:
3146 kcal Fat: 136.03g | Prot: 103.95g | Carb: 378.77g.   Breakfast: Potato Chips, Kraft Light Mayonnaise, White Bread, Great Value Enriched White Bread, Deli Sliced Ham, Milk (Nonfat), Post Fruity Pebbles Cereal, Gala Apples. Lunch: Freddy's Frozen Custard Fries (Regular), Freddy's Frozen Custard Double California Style Steakburger, Freddy's Frozen Custard Freddy's Frozen Custard - Mini Turtle Sundae. Snacks/Other: Hostess Twinkies Golden Sponge Cake with Creamy Filling. more...
3863 kcal Activities & Exercise: Running (jogging) - 5/mph - 1 hour, Walking (moderate) - 3/mph - 55 minutes, Running - 6/mph - 40 minutes, Resting - 4 hours and 25 minutes, Sleeping - 8 hours, Standing - 4 hours, Sitting - 5 hours. more...

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For 10% where you seem to be it's closer to 11xbw in lbs. This site puts mine at 11.05xbw in lbs which is probably a little off, I bet I'm closer to 10 or even 9.5. Anyone can test it on here by simply putting 8 hours of sleeping and 16 hours of resting. 
17 Jul 18 by member: -Diablo
Of course, before anyone gets too down on how low the calories seem to be, RMR is resting metabolic rate. So this would be if you were essentially laying down all day. You can easily raise the number by 500 in even a sedentary job and even higher if you exercise or have an active job or both. RMR is simply a baseline. I'm losing at a good rate at 14.2 times body weight but I also run and lift almost every day. 
17 Jul 18 by member: -Diablo
And yeah, I'd go with bb.com's numbers. 
17 Jul 18 by member: -Diablo
It would be odd to ask for a DXA scan for my birthday....right? 
17 Jul 18 by member: Officially39
That would be a good gift! I'd love to do that some time. 
17 Jul 18 by member: -Diablo
I find it’s fairly accurate for me. 137x10=1370 for lay around days. 137x12=1644 for gym or highly active days. Rmr is probably less since I’m under the impression that doesn’t include digestion, walking to the fridge ;) etc. I should be around 26.59% fat per trainer and body comp scale says 39% which I don’t believe for a second. I’d also love to be scanned sometime! 
17 Jul 18 by member: peeperjj
If you want a cheaper, home alternative to Dexa scans. It’s called. Skulpt (with the K) it’s a handheld personal body fat reader device, essentially works the same way, but accuracy is about the same if not better than dexa and other bf readers/scans out there, I’ve owned the original model (has a screen on it) and I own the current white model. The new model has been updated to be easier to use, both have been pretty damn accurate all things considered. $100 price point, much better than a scale to step on or caliper, which I’ve also used comparatively. I don’t need mine these days, since I know whereI’m at and how to track progress visually, but it’s a handy device for anyone curious about that sorta thing & can help with tracking overall progress to see if you’re getting stronger or not or losing/gaining body fat. Here’s a weblink for those curious https://www.skulpt.me 
17 Jul 18 by member: DEADPOOL12345
My interest is peaked by your post. I’m currently 18% BF and weigh 176 @5’6” I lift and Crossfit 3x a week and run 4x a week. I really want to get to 14% and showing abs BF but my weight has stalled. Where would my RMR be for how active I am to still cut weight and drop BF? Right now I try to eat 1600 cals and less than 50g C 
17 Jul 18 by member: kboesenberg
I should mention it still has the same flaws related to false readings with more or less water retention which dexa and all other bf% thingies have too. So it’s a tool like any other, but in my opinion it’s probably a much better tool out there than the alternatives. 
17 Jul 18 by member: DEADPOOL12345
ooooooo Groupon! 
17 Jul 18 by member: Officially39
bb.com=bodybuilding.com? I use that site a lot.  
17 Jul 18 by member: peeperjj
@kboesenberg, 1600 calories sounds low enough to me, you may need a 1-2 week diet break where you eat maintenance calories if you stalled with such a low amount. 
18 Jul 18 by member: -Diablo
Thanks guys! Im working on it, and I like to follow your posts because they are always full of information!  
18 Jul 18 by member: kboesenberg
Lol Chris. His diet works. For some people 😝. For me I would need to be gaining weight to have his diet as I have very little willpower when faced with all that ‘junk’. BUT moderation in all thins is key and his diet must be moderation for him 🤪.  
18 Jul 18 by member: peeperjj

     
 

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