nicholaix's Journal, 26 May 2015

Nich, this is exactly what is happening to me.. I was starving. Im also going back to induction for a while to push past it. Any time i mess with the formula I stall. Ive learned i can do berries or nuts one serving a day and dairy like plain greek yogurt once a week. Other than that, Im pushing it. Ill be saving the canteloupe and cherries for once serving a here or there bc I cant adjust yet... LCHF is what works best for me I think .. i just need to eat the add ons sparingly. Let me know how it goes for you... and hang in there..these are the joys of dieting .. Im so glad im not alone here...  

I know that when I'll get to OWL, I'll go by 10 netcarbs increments in a week, all of them from one group of foods - let's say, this week berries, next week, nuts, the next week, diary. And I mean the 10 netcarbs for all of these three weeks, not adding 10 more for each week. I thought that this way I can see which of the food groups might stall me or even make me get the weight back. I don't see myself getting to a 60-70 g of netcarbs daily sooner than maybe 6 months. 

IMO what works for you is what's best for you. I believe research shows that LCHF can be a healthy way of living. It's always worked for me with weight loss, it's just not something I cans stick to over the long term. Wishing you success with it again. 

what is LCHF? 

ANGELDI - LCHF stands for low carb high fat. 

I find the same thing except that if my carbs are fruits and veggies I'm fine. As soon as I switch to starches, that's when I start wanting to binge and the cravings return. Oddly, starches make me feel full, while I tend to simply be not hungry when it's fruits and veggies. 

Great - thanks for the info. I have a real issue with carbs. Don't know if it matters whether it's starch or fruits . . . may give that a try. 

I am there with you, Nicole...tried to move to OWL...added a few things and my cravings returned, weight went up and so this morning, I decided that I had to go back to induction and obviously keep strict tabs on what goes into my mouth. No more add-ons until I see some sort of loss. Wonder if there is such a thing as an"induction lifer?" (would add lol but it really isn't that funny!)  

Thanks all! I am just going to stick with what worked for now and worry about the rest when I hit goal. I am close enough now that it shouldnt be more than a couple months and then I can fiddlefart around with macros. 

Hmm I am curious what carbs you added back in your diet? I have been attempting LCHF Paleo for a year now (of course on and off...I fall off on holidays) and I am seeing in the last few months I don't sleep well. I crave all the Paleo carbs that I can't eat on low carb high fat (bananas and potatoes mostly) and I have no freaking energy to do my MMA workouts let alone to wake up and walk the dogs. I actually found that LCHF worked amazing for me a year ago when I wasn't working out at all (other than walking around in NYC- I did tons of walking living in the city) but I did not make extra time to do extra workouts. This worked amazing then, now I am more active and I cant keep the low carb up without breaking my diet every weekend. I find adding more carbs for my on my higher intensity days have done wonders for me. I am slowly starting to see my sleep quality improve. I think even on my lower carb days I might even eat up top 80g carbs... I am still playing around with it because initially paleo is moderate carb. Anyway. Just curious what you have been adding that has stalled your loss ? I am always interested to see how carbs effect people because I am still learning myself on how I should treat carbs in my own diet! 

Best of luck Nichol, whatever is working for you.  

whole wheat english muffin, rice chex, baked potato, oatmeal, whole wheat bread. I was adding them on big workout days. It seems to be any kind of starch or fruit. I am more concerned with losing my last 25-30 lbs than really heavy workouts at the moment so I am just going to go back into weight loss mode and coast the running/weight lifting. I think I was up around 75-100 carbs on heavy workout days, a bit higher on 7+ mile days. 

if you add carbs maybe try beans or legumes instead of grains.  

I agree Nicolaix to go back to low carb more focusing on weightloss than heavy workouts. Also I notice if I splurge on grains ie: bread, oatmeal etc my joints feel achy. But fruit potatoes and a bit of rice don't seem to bother me. But everyone reacts differently. See how you feel going back to low carb 

If it works for you then it's all that matters ;-) 

I think I revealed this about myself to you as well..LCHF is what works for me even when training heavy . I would fuel on fat any day and keep satiated rather than have my body craving carbs/sugar . I ran a half marathon on bacon and Eggs alone,, trickled very little sugar through out in the form of honey ,, and felt fabulous . at least you tried ,, that's what its all about,, seeing what works best for you .  

I will continue to train and use the extra fat like I was before, just not quite so much distance. I am guessing I weigh quite a lot more than you did when you were doing marathons Tamarah Jo lol so I would need to eat half a pig lol if I ate just bacon and eggs. That really is my issue, I cant find enough fat/ proteins to meet the calorie needs versus he easy high calorie carb foods. It sounds funny to say but I was losing a couple pounds a week and felt crappy. I cant eat dairy or coconut and prefer not to eat meat although I do eat eggs and small bits of goats milk including a farmers cheese I make myself. I can't deal with nutrition bars after 30 years of vegan/unprocessed foods. So really its just trying to tweak the foods I eat to get the balance I am looking for. Seems like most people use coconut oil or dairy, I am always open to suggestions for higher fat foods. 

That's ironic..i find on my higher carb days its so TOUGH to get extra calories. I normal am struggling to eat 1400 on my higher carb days because I keep my fat low. On my low carb days I can easily eat up to 2000 cals if I don't watch. hmmm... so interesting. I found this while I was testing carb cycling. I really wish I could use just low carb high fat for training like you can but I just get so lethargic and I feel miserable. Maybe I didn't give myself enough time to adapt fully to low carb? I found it easy to stick to low carb for a longer time while I wasn't active but when I started adding in my tough workouts.. I found I just couldn't handle the low carb and I would binge on the weekend then go though the whole guilt thing. I give you major props to be able to train and stick to low carb because no matter how hard I try my body just tells me "no way!" That's why I decided to do lower carb on my rest days/low active days and higher carb on my heavy training days. btw I eat clean carbs no junk sugar :) But what I have been learning on this site is that everyone can live a successful healthy lifestyle in many different ways. It is all about tweaking ! Which is the hardest part  

The carbs you added would kill me..inflammation from the grains. Avocado adds a ton of nutrients and good fat, almonds, almond butter, eggs, sweet potato, protein shakes...???? 

I stalk your diaries often HCB lol. Unfortunately for me butter coconut oil and bacon don't work. What you listed ^^ is pretty much what I've been eating. I do 3 eggs and farmers goat cheese for breakfast every day, some kind of veggie saute for lunch sometimes with some chicken. Dinner is where I really struggle. My kids eat gluten free pizza, waffles, or chicken tenders every night so I need to make something just for me and by then nothing sounds good. I've been thinking about doing a protein shake for dinner and loading it up with almond butter and avocado.