Tatmummy's Journal, 10 March 2015

Yes interesting that they call the low-carb diet, what others here on FS call a high-fat-low-carb or keto etc... Their low-carb diet is: 30% carb, 49% fat and 21% protein. I have said before on FS that over 50% fat is not good. Or over 50% for any one macro for that matter. On the other hand the experiments low-fat diet with 75% carbs is equally too high IMHO and 7% fat is not sustainable either as one critic says. 

Eat healthy.Lots of fruit and veg and control your calorie intake. 

@bigfatbastard, Exactly it really is as simple as that. I don't understand why people on FS instead want to eat Coconut Oil, Cream, Cheese, too much Eggs and Bacon, and other fatty meat, and call it a "healthy diet". The main argument being, that Fat is not as bad for you as once thought 50 years ago. 

If you control what goes in nature will decide what it keeps and what it rejects.Any excess is turned into sugars and subsequently fat.  

Well no its not quite that simple. You have to eat the right balance. For example you could get your calories lemon juice and maple syrup (and that is actually a diet. A silly one called master cleanse) That would be very bad for your health. 

I did say a balanced diet but watching your calorie intake. The balance between protein fat and carbs is of little significance.You can be healthy on fresh fruit and veg. You can be healthy on just meat,but that is not balanced. 

Yes you are right. Most varied diets despite macro ratios will have what your body requires in terms of vitamins and minerals, which contribute to good health. People who are concerned about macros are the ones that want to optimise their nutrition in terms of gaining muscle and losing fat. http://tinyurl.com/kx39fzl 

Haha I am content with losing a few pounds. I don't really care if it's muscle or fat as long as it's gone. I had a hip replacement last year and piled on the pounds and it is only now that I can exercise . 

not worth the paper the study is written on, it only lasted 11 days (useless not enough time to become fat adapted) the low carb diet still contained 30% carbs yet the low fat dieters went down to 7% fat! maybe if they had carried on for a few weeks and had the low carbers on 7% carbs it might had been useful. if they are going to do research and studies they should conduct them properly before spreading their dubious results around the world as gospel 

low carb diets aren't based on fat being good or bad, 50 years ago or today, the keto diet was introduced around 100 years ago as a treatment for epilepsy and other neurological disorders. they are based on the way hormones react to the food we eat and control ALL bodily functions and providing the body with its most sustainable source of energy - fat  

@drullae, "Not worth the paper its written on"?! This was a scientific study, carried out by ten professional scientists having a range of MD,PhD,MSc qualifications in Nutrition, Epidemiology and Physiology. It was published in the Annals of Internal medicine, papers published in scientific annals tend to have to be worth something before they get allowed to be put in. The studies methodology was sound (A randomized, parallel-group trial). Data on weight, cardiovascular risk factors, and dietary composition were collected at 0, 3, 6, and 12 months. You need to stop believing this hype nonsense about becoming "fat adapted", I will tell you how you become fat adapted. 1) Have your normal balanced meal at 6pm, 2) go to sleep at the normal time. 3) wake up at 6am. Congratulations you are now in ketosis. You see after about 6 hours or so your body finishes digesting your evening meal, and after another 6 hours or so your body uses up its stores of glycogen. (Its not actually a mode where the switch is flicked, you gradually become more ketogenic through the night). Think about it, if it really took more than 11 days to become fat adapted, then anyone who didn't eat for a few days would die, because your brain uses 25% of your daily caloric intake, the energy has to come from somewhere. http://tinyurl.com/pq7bkqn 

fat adaption works best when the body is fed more fat and less carbs consistently for a few weeks, the body gradually becomes more efficient at burning fat for fuel. this is what the scientists, MD's, PhD's and qualified professionals say. what you think i get this information from the The Sun?!! this "hype" about fat adaption is keeping me thin and i'm not even in ketosis. i eat 1700 calories a day, a lot of that is from fat, i am NOT putting weight on i am maintaining at 131lbs consistently. this tells me one crucial thing - my body is using all this fat i eat for energy, it isn't storing it as then i would be putting weight on. . now then last year i was 140lbs eating a low fat/cal diet and could not eat more than 1450 calories as then i would store the extra carbs as fat and put weight on. this tells me another fact - my body is more efficient at burning fat than it is at burning carbs. so why not give my body its preferred fuel source? you need to understand that no one particular way of dieting is best, we have to find what suits ourselves, i have and i will defend that way because i know damn well it is working perfectly for me. but i would never tell anyone else how to eat or say that my way is best. i can only say it works for me. and to say i should stop believing something that IS working the way the hype says it will is ridiculous.  

Qualified professionals would call that Gluconeogenesis, others refer to it as "starvation mode". This is when you don't get enough carbohydrates to feed your brain, and it switches to using 6% glucose and can also use ketone bodies instead. (Usually ketones are too big to cross the blood brain barrier which is why you need a bare minimum of 25% carbs in a regular diet). I have an explanation for the effects you have mentioned which may or may not be the reason I don't know. You said you put weight on last year, so you were probably eating more calories than you were burning. This probably meant your bodies metabolism relaxed and was burning food less efficiently. Because your metabolism sped up you found you were able to eat more calories, but now because you are starving yourself of carbs, your body is holding on to everything you eat, and you are not losing weight. 

i'm not losing weight because i am at my goal weight and am maintaining. and not starving my body of anything. my body is not holding on to everything i eat or else i would be putting on weight. i am achieving what i set out to do which is a balance between energy expended and energy consumed.  

Right so a high-fat low-carb diet is not suitable for someone trying to lose weight its suitable for someone who wants to stay fat. I don't mean that personally, I don't actually think you are at all fat looking at your profile photo, and guessing that you are about 5'4" You are a perfectly healthy weight already. 

High fat low carb is working for me 

i am 5ft 9in actually Giles and have lost nearly 4st since i started dieting.  

@drullae, Well I don't know what you are telling me now. You did lose weight on a high fat diet or you didn't? You are on a ketogenic diet, but you are not in ketosis? When you ate 1700 calories you lost more weight than you ate 1450 calories. So...you must be doing more exercise now. Good for you keep it up. 

i have lost weight on both a high fat diet (within the last 12 months) and before that on low fat. i have said before i have had success with both diets. i am not eating a ketogenic diet it is just low carb high fat. (about 60gs carbs a day). i am not doing anymore exercise now. i just have the balance energy in energy out right 

Well you look good to this old man Drulla