northernmusician's Journal, 30 June 2016

Yikes. Lol.  

This is like starvation for days and then all the carbs you can eat. By the way, I calculated the carbs wrong. That should be 1200 to 1300 gr. :| I may have to give this a try. :D I've tried almost everything else.  

1000 gr carb, seems like it would be hard to do without eating junk or processed foods like lots of fruit juice or Lay's potato chips. I don't need to know the particulars to know this does not interest me. I do not need the insulin load.  

I ran Lyle's UDK2 a couple years back. Have Lyle's book around here somewhere. Its a classic cyclical ketogenic diet. It works, but a couple features made it sub-optimal for me. First, I was probably 18-22% BF at the time I ran it. I think I was too fat to get full benefits and the diet is more effective for those who start considerably leaner than I was (or even am now). Second, the workouts were not for me. IIRC, they are bodybuilder style volume workouts. These took too much time (for me) and left me ragged out. This was especially true of the weekly "Depletion" workout, which is the prerequisite for the carb-load, aka "glycogen supercompensation." Bottom Line (IMHO) - Definitely works, makes most sense for BBers cutting to single digit body fat a/o contest prep. 

I've done everything. LCHF, IF, Carb-backloading, CICO, Zone... This would just be something else. Most people would say I have no weight to lose at, what the calipers say today is, 11% bodyfat. At this level of leanness it's extremely difficult to go lower. This would be a kind of 'shock' effect. The carb load would consist of very little in the way of fruit, but starches instead. Pancakes, potato chips, bread, pasta.... Some would ask why bother if I'm already that lean. "Because it's there!" :) I always have to have a goal. I have them with my lifting too. On Deadlifts, squat, and bench press I'm at, respectively, 84%, 86%, and 81% of my goals, which are target weights of 275, 185, and 185. Currently at 235, 160, and 150. What happens when I hit my targets? Oh, you silly little type r's. lol 

Yeah. The brain never sleeps. It is the idea of cutting calories to 1000 per day for 4 days that is the problem. The carb up... I'd rock that!  

I love carbs. Hush! Sorry, my fat was talking out of turn. I can't wait for a massive carb up day but right now I am still a fragile FS warrior in training and just trying to find my grove. Keep up the fight! 

"the body is a freaky, odd, counter-intuitive, iconoclastic thing." Ain't THAT the truth! 

Wow...1200 - 1300 gms carbs, or any food combination seems like a lot. I just checked my biggest calorie day in June (3150 cal) and total gms of fat, carbs and protein added together for the day was 600 gms. If you give it a whirl, let us know how things turn out good or bad. 

I'm considering it. When you look at total calories, you're actually still working at maintenance calories, but there is a 1 pound loss from the extreme 3-5 day cut with the two day glut. The theory is Keto style eating for those deficit days at which point muscle tissue is ready to suck up every gram of carb you give it. It may be worth trying if I can wrap my head around it. 

Ok this particular diet frightens me. lol 

I have some reading to do. It looks just a little involved. 

It's just me. If something is promising me something, I'm willing to put in the effort to see if it's true, though I haven't quite decided yet. 

Hey NM, I just did some reading on that diet...super hardcore but very effective...you sound like you more than qualify and make the starting line for this one (advanced dieter, lifting experience, 12 - 15% BF or lower, looking for even lower levels of body fat)....the experiment continues :-) 

Doesn't sound like a lot of "fun" though... 

I agree. The 5000 or so calories you get over the 5 days of cut is less that two days of maintenance for me. :(