maeday42's Journal, 21 May 2017

Contact your doctor for sure. Diabetic Kitchen pancakes= :{{ Those would definitely swing your sugar too high especially if you ate too many. 

Not trying to be dramatic here, but I was in the same situations. The dog probably saved your life Mae. 🙎🏻You need to be running your sugars MUCH more frequently when you are eating keto. 🙎🏻 If you have a few days below 70-80 you should be stepping back the insulin. 🤷🏻‍♀️Am I the only diabetic in the world who's doctor trusted to titrate my own insulin? This is your life, Hon! 🙅🏻 Highs and lows are dangerous to your health and worrying. 70-110 are slop areas, more or less. 🤷🏻‍♀️Not great control but won't do major damage going ten points outside that either end...you start getting above or below that and the consequences can start coming. 🙎🏻With a Keto diet if you decide to "cheat" you can send yourself into an insulin resistance high that makes you sleep and then tank and drop your sugars by as much as thirty to fifty points without even being really aware of it if you're body isn't expecting it. 🙍🏻 I don't understand these doctors. Mine gave me clear instructions for when and how to step down my insulin to get it GONE. 🙅🏻And even at that my cats woke me up 4 or 5 times with very low blood sugars from my metformin! 🙇🏻‍♀️ Sometimes doctors frustrate me!🤦🏻‍♀️ 

I am not a fan of baby steps when it comes to weight loss for those who are technically obese or diabetic, for the very reason you described with your DH and his alternate pancakes. You've had a lifetime of crappy carbs, and now it's time to eat without fear of suffering a stroke (which happened to a girlfriend of mine one morning, causing her to plow headfirst into the wall which knocked her unconscious). No baby steps of pseudo-pancakes. It's salads and salmon now. 

Well soonsoonsoon I have to disagree with you, baby stepping is the way it should be done, drastic weight loss is good for no one. Salmon doesn't happen often for me cause I am NOT a big fish fan. I eat salad, but usually beef or chicken. I've dropped over 20 lbs since starting and I am extremely happy with my progress. smprowett I agree with you and my doctor and I are going to have a long talk during my next appointment!! 

Have you thought of training your dog to detect your BS and signal you? I've trained Service Dogs and he sounds like he's a good candidate! We all have to discover what is best for us physically, spiritually and emotionally. It's a journey and losing weight is just a small part of that journey! 

I think the years of cast members from The Biggest Loser would disagree with you on how losing weight quickly is bad for you. Your dig alerting you when your blood sugar dropped to a scary level is what concerns me. It's what caused my friend's stroke that morning - raising the urgency level to drop the pounds quickly to get out of the danger zone. I dropped over 20 pounds in 1 month, and it only did good things to my blood pressure, heart rate and cholesterol levels. 

Dog, not "dig". 

There was a disturbing article in the "New York Times" last year about a study scientists did on prior "The Biggest Loser" contestants. Their rapid, extreme weight loss might not have been so good for them after all and might actually have set them up for ongoing hormonal/metabolism problems, which made it harder for them to keep the weight off over time. Almost everyone in the small study put a significant amount of weight back on. Years after the show, their metabolisms were found to still be burning far fewer calories per day than would be expected, and their hormone levels had not recovered. The contestants were also unhappy about the rolls of loose skin rapid weight loss had left them with and hid the extra skin during the finale with compression garments. A woman in her 50s may also have to contend with decreased collagen production and decreased skin elasticity making her skin less resilient as she loses weight. A rush job might not produce the best long-term outcome. Congrats on your weight loss, Mae! Keep up the great work, but please do contact your doctor and be safe! Good luck!  

Most of them seemed to be 2 seconds away from heart attack, stroke, etc. So boo-hooing about loose skin ( which is going to happen for anyone losing that much weight, no matter at what speed) is just someone looking for an excuse to shove a bagel down their throat. Rush job will save your life. 

Not if you lose it in an unsustainable way and put it back on.  

Anyone can put weight back on, whether they lost it fast or slow. So that's really not a valid argument for baby steps. Two FS members worth checking out who lost quickly on LCHF while dealing with t2 diabetes are blkbr and also Phil. Their posts regarding losing over 100 pounds in one year and maintaining that loss are inspirational.  

Maybe I read this wrong, but it seems the pancakes came after the low glucose reading. If ever a time to eat diabetic pancakes it was then, although the oj had already helped with a correction. I'm Type II. I started at 68 units down now to 27 of Lantus. I have been able to cut out all my glipizide tabs completely. I listen to my doctors advice when cutting back on insulin injections. But I did talk with my nutrition specialist for understanding "how to" reduce insulin. When I was first losing weight using LC CICO, I had those crashes. Good luck  

It's a little more complex than you're making it out to be, SSS. That's why scientists are still studying these things. Even actual experts don't yet know it all. One can certainly find an example or exception for anything, but that doesn't mean that example is necessarily representative of or applies to every other case. I am certainly aware of the great achievements of my buddies. They are indeed great inspirations. What worked for them in their lives may or may not be what will work best for others with different ages, genders, genetics, microbiomes, comorbidities, metabolisms, hormone profiles, lifestyles, etc. If what they did works for Mae and she chooses it, great. If she chooses a path that is more workable for her in her life, great. It's her personal choice. Phil and blkbr followed their own paths; Mae is following hers. If salmon, salad, and rapid weight loss will get you to your sustainable goal weight, great. That still may not be the optimal plan for Mae, but I'm sure many will be inspired by your success when you reach and maintain your own goal weight. 

@kpw - obviously losing very slowly is not working for Mae as she is still suffering low blood sugar episodes that cause her new dog to spring into action. Those swings seem really scary, and the threat of losing a foot or vision at the very least would incite me to face the urgency​ and eat only 1200 calories a day. You are right about not everyone possessing the discipline to save their own life. 

Whoa. Most of us are here because we got fat by eating more than 1200 calories a day at some time in our lives. This is not a place to be judgmental.  

It wasn't my intention to come across judgemental, but the attitudes of the sickest members are frustrating, SMH. I have seen what happens to diabetics and stroke victims. I feel the same about smokers and drug addicts who have already been hospitalized for thinking that just cutting back will do the trick, who shrug it off and downplay the urgency of their self-created illnesses. 

Well, Maeday, I hope you are feeling better and things are under control. I must say I will have to agree with Kpw. Drastic isn't good. Maeday has dropped weight and that's to be applauded. These situations are typical for Diabetics and that's why they monitor their blood sugars. It's got nothing to do with her "losing very slowly." Soon, it's ok that you don't agree or support what someone is doing, but I don't think it's necessary to come to someone's journal and berate him/her. "Self-created illnesses" is too harsh and isn't very kind. I am sure she knows about the ravages of Diabetes and it's apparent she is taking the situation serious. Not everyone needs the "tough love" or the "scared straight" approach. Being cruel to people just because they are human and not perfect isn't proper. If it bothers you so then you probably shouldn't be here on FS if you can't find it in yourself to have some restraint and scroll past what you don't like. Discipline can be applied to what we choose to say; not just to what we eat. I can be strict with words myself, but cruel.....no.