debrafrederick's Journal, 28 May 2016

Sounds like a delicious soup and a good experiment! You have to keep various things in life fresh. It sounds like you're firmly in control of your food, not the other way around. Great job! 

Why not experiment, and see what works for you? I am a firm believer that we are all the same but all different - meaning that our bodies respond in a different way to other people's. There is no set formula that suits all. It is too simplistic to think otherwise, I think. I hope you have good results 😊  

Cool, Deb. I hope this works. I too have been fascinated with all the Carb Spike posts lately and want to know more! 

LOL Laura, I just discovered it by accident and when I confessed my naughty sin of scarffing pizza a person named seekerofgrace made a comment about it might be a good thing and left a link to a carb-cycling video, my next weigh in was a 3 pound loss, so, I looked into it more and decided that I am already working on a multi-pronged approach, what's one more right?  

I realize that humans can rationalize anything, but my reason tells me that 1) I am fat adapted after 20 months on LCHF 2) I have increased my insulin sensitivity in the past three months through Intermittent fasting 3) My weight loss keeps stalling even when I am 100% and increasing activity because moving feels good. If I add another angle to this I may really click into my groove and get my metabolism back to where it is supposed to be.......before all of the damage I did doing huge yo-ya losses and rebounding with even bigger gains... 

Love it, Deb... you are working this and making work for you! I am still pretty new to this LCHF lifestyle, but can already see that it is right for me. I just want to be able to sustain the weight loss and make sure I don't give up when I stall out. I need to know what tricks and tweaks to make at that point. I am at the point now where I just need to get online and read all I can get my hands on. There are just so many theories and plans out there!!! Ugh. That's why I love it here so much...I am learning from people who have real life experience with these plans and not from people just trying to sell me their book. LOL 

Oh I know, the money angle is so ubiquitous. I just discovered that my goto website for fat bomb recipes have pulled them all and incorporated them into an e-book for sale. So now I have to locate a new website for recipes :( Oddly enough Laura I get more from you tube videos, lots of good information in many of them, I watch them all, take what I need and leave the rest. The biggest thing is learning your own body and listening to it. They are perfect machines and can take a LOT of abuse and they still manage to keep us alive. If Ford could build a truck as perfect as we are, we would never have to replace any parts...just keep putting gas in it, the only confusion we as humans have is........what kind and how much gas should we put in?  

I found the recipes, they just moved them around a bit, I posted the link in another journal entry for those of you who are interested. 

Thanks for this, Deb! I also saw all the carb spike posts, and did some research into it. The science makes sense. I'm thinking of trying it next weekend. I have read some reports of people feeling sick after a carb spike, so I want to be off work the day after, just in case. My birthday is next Thursday, so a friend is taking me out for dinner on Saturday to celebrate, so it seems like a good time to cut loose and carb up. ;) 

I didn't feel sick, but I also did not go above 100 net carbs, but since I keep myself very low on the net carbs on a daily basis, I feel like boosting them up over 50 will give me the results I am looking for - I hope anyway, we shall see :) The only discomfort I had was feeling very very full and about an hour after eating, very very sleepy. Made myself stay awake even though we were having a lovely downpour outside which always adds to my napping pleasure. Went to bed at 10 and had a beautiful nights sleep. Feeling pretty good today, I was a little hungry so I added a teaspoon of coconut oil to my coffee and the growls got quiet. The thing I fear the most about the whole carbnight/carb cycling thing is rebooting all of the cravings that have been subdued for so long. Since I am aware of the cause and effect, I can be more mindful and take steps to quash it before it turns into a binge. I think one of the many benefits of fasting is actually learning what true hunger feels like, once we know and recognize it it is so much easier to identify the difference between actually being hungry and just wanting to eat for whatever reason may apply. 

Wish you luck with this. I read in one of my books to have your carbs at night, because you will sleep better. I need all the help I can get. LOL! 

I get that sleepiness after too many carbs (at least, too many for me) too. My understanding is it is caused by insulin resistance: the cells' response to insulin (released after eating the carbs/sugars) is sluggish so the pancreas releases more, whoops now the cells have caught on but it's too much insulin and the blood sugar is driven a bit too low... causing sleepiness. And I bet you already know about this... I'd been reading that the fasting and 5:2 are supposed to help "heal" the insulin resistance and now I feel a bit discouraged about that notion because I know you've been doing those for awhile now. Of course it may be that the cell response has improved and you wouldn't experience the sleepiness with 75 gr carbs or so.  

I think what you are doing is probably the most balanced approach in weightloss- keeping the carbs in check and not going overboard! You have knocked off a lot of weight already, so now you are finding a balanced and realistic way for long term success!! Great ideas, very innovative Debrafrederick! 

Trackin, so I understand, it's just the initial insulin release and the sudden clearing of the sugar from the blood that causes the drowsy feeling. Back in the caveman days our ancestors would be motivated by hunger to get up and go procure food, once the food was secured then we would eat, after eating, we would rest and allow the body to rejuvenate and heal until we were motivated to procure more food. I think that with upping the carbs and feeling the ensuing sleepiness, my body was doing what it was designed to do, if it was the insulin resistance causing my blood sugar to not be cleared out and being forced into releasing even more insulin into my system then storing it as fat and getting nothing into the cells for energy, I would have immediately gotten hungry again and started looking for more food. I was full, I did not want more food one hour later, or two hours later....but I really really wanted to take a nap! I believe my insulin resistance is normalizing, I will know more once I see the results of my experiment. So far I have not had the urge to binge, my thinking is that perhaps the urge to binge lies in my sensitivity to wheat and processed foods. Time will tell...@Smarty, I and many others bemoan the fact that the scientific and medical community cannot/will not agree on an optimal human intake formula that actually promotes good health. Since I can't simply do experiments on human subjects and observe the results, my alternative is to do them on myself and see how I do. I have over the years followed my medical providers advice to the T and I had only gotten more and more into the hole of sickness and obesity. I have now become my own advocate and adviser. If it makes me feel better and lose the excess pounds I have accumulated then it's working, if I feel bad and stop losing weight, it's not...so change it........... (Paragraph Break )........ Just FYI, I have not had a cold, the flu, a stomach virus, sinus infection, bladder infection etc. for over a year. I work at a retail window in a post office where thousands of hands/germs/bacteria touch the mail and the money I handle, not to mention the face to face meetings with people who are ill but still have to drag themselves out of the house to handle their day to day business no matter how sick they are. I don't catch any of it.....just another observation.  

Hi Debrafrederick that's an awesome career! Do you get free postage? I think it's amazing that you don't get sick in an environment that would generally cause you to, but I agree it's all about finding what will work for u through experimentation! 

LOl no such thing as free postage! I buy extra stamps just to help keep our postal system alive. The stronger immune system I am attributing better overall health. My body is not struggling with combating the toxins that I have eliminated in my environment and food thus it allows it to focus on doing it's job of protecting me from microbial invasions. I consider that another marker towards the quest for good health.  

Thank you, I appreciate your take on the sleepiness issue. I hadn't thought about the fact that if the blood sugar had really dropped then hunger would shortly follow...but since it didn't then maybe there wasn't much drop or perhaps a recovery took place. I have that happen too, sleepiness but no hunger. Interesting.