This is so true Willie. I never thought I would try vegan but Im doing it for the whole month of September and it definitely works. I tried juicing before but I found it hard to maintain. After this month Im going to do 5:2 vegan:anything goes - I tried this before and it works / keeps me on a plateu. In 3 weeks Im heading back to Scotland for a short break so that will be a damage limitation week for sure!