redgirl1974's Journal, 22 June 2016

I need some help... Im researching/considering interment fasting but dont know anything about it.. Ive tried to wait to eat breakfast lately an started my meals later in the day and actually like it but how would that work if im at work? I feel like it means skipping breakfast and Im not ok with that really cause i would be worried about my stomach growling at work.Just being honest not trying to be silly. So this is what I do now. Wake up 6-7, have coffee and pre work out, go to gym, post work out shake then 1st meal is around 10-11. Im sure this not fasting at all. If i didnt eat after six and had 1st meal at 10 would that be fasting? But having coffee and shake would mess that up so it would really a 12:12 fast ??
Im sorry if this post is dumb I just want to do my homework. Ive noticed Im getting comfortable and eating late and night and I want to use this change in my work situation for good and really nail down a eating routine/schedule. I would imagine my new schedule is going to be either 8-5 or 830 to 530 for a while and then go back to 930-630 down the road. I would ideally like to get out of work go to gym and then have dinner but that would put dinner at like 7-8. How does everyone else do it ? What does the group suggest to help me ? Maybe I dont need to fast, I just need to not eat after 7-8?? Your thought ?

Diet Calendar Entry for 22 June 2016:
60 kcal Fat: 0.33g | Prot: 2.07g | Carb: 14.31g.   Breakfast: Watermelon. Lunch: Cauliflower, Broccoli. more...

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Well young lady, we are here for you. First you need to understand what IF does to your body. Watch videos by Jason Fung, and Butter Bob Brigs. They will give you a Really good base understanding of WHY it works. It really is about WHEN and how much you eat, and less about WHAT you eat. Well the Absolute BASE of what it is all about is insulin control. But those two men will teach you what you REALLY need to know first off. I PERSONALLY started with 16:8 fasting. Eat all my calories in an 8 hour window then just don't eat for 16 hours. YOU decided when that window is. I as well as several others are on the IF beast mode. We only eat one meal in 24 hours. And its surprisingly easy. Several of us will continue even AFTER the challenges. Actually, next Monday I am starting IF Beast Mode 2.0. You can feel free to join if you want to make it a challenge with goals. Tip, eating more FAT will help control hunger for FAR longer. 
22 Jun 16 by member: knuckles the mgtow monk
According to what I've learned, the greatest benefit from fasting comes at the 11 hour mark, but that means NO calories ingested during that time. Longer fasts will permit up to 500 Kcal, and still be considered a fast. You already fast when you sleep...just extend it a couple of hours! 
22 Jun 16 by member: mskestrela
ok sooo I probably could eat one meal only but I could do eat all my meals in 8 hrs.. does it have to be 16:8 ?  
22 Jun 16 by member: redgirl1974
Mskestrela, I sleep 10-6 so approx 8 hrs.. I can hold off break fast for 2-4 hours but that may be it but I think I would die with out coffee LOL. This may not work out LOL  
22 Jun 16 by member: redgirl1974
Nope, it does not have to be 16:8 But the shorter the eating window, the bigger the benefit. The longer you go without feeding, the lower your insulin level drops and the more your body burns fat. Also, cellular autophagy turns ON when your insulin drops to lower levels. That is when your body gets rid of all the unhealthy damaged cells in your body. so eating less is actually healing your body of illness. The reason many IF people go LCHF, is because it is the easiest to maintain for hunger control. HCLF has a tendancy to leave you hungry FAR FAR sooner. And much more hungry at that. 
22 Jun 16 by member: knuckles the mgtow monk
Red, you can have all the coffee you want. There is no restriction on coffee or tea. Just sugar or anything with calories. Coffee is a life saver at times. I even add a couple tbsp. of butter to it sometimes. its 200 kcal for the butter but that has such a small insulin response I don't count it. AND it helps KILL hunger. Seriously, I think you should make the leap to IF. Its a crazy powerful tool. 
22 Jun 16 by member: knuckles the mgtow monk
As knuckles said, the Autophagy process kicks in once insulin is low and peaks around 16hrs, hence 16:8 cycle. Autophagy clears our old and damaged cells, replacing with new ones...critical for processing insulin and glucose among other things. 
22 Jun 16 by member: mahjohn
Ok, I like what Im hearing. I think the best way to start would be to ease into it. Imma try 14:10 .. bc i can def do that maybe even more but I need to be realistic. If I have my after work out shake at 9 am then my last meal would be at 7 pm and thats what Im aiming for to start.  
22 Jun 16 by member: redgirl1974
Nobody expects you to be an IF master in a day Little Red. you do your thing and we are here to support you the whole way. 
22 Jun 16 by member: knuckles the mgtow monk
We *really* need a like button on comments here. 
22 Jun 16 by member: mskestrela
I have been doing 16:8 for at least one year...I eat between 12:00pm and 8:00pm - but I do have coffee in the morning with coconut oil and butter 
22 Jun 16 by member: HCB
I believe we could use the "support" button as the "like" button. That's what I do without actually making a comment. 
22 Jun 16 by member: SjF60
SjF60, I'd LOVE a "like" button on the comments as well as the "support" button - which I use anyway -- for the original post. My other greatly-beloved site, Ravelry, even has a "love" button. That would work really well here, I believe.  
22 Jun 16 by member: PokeyJack
Thanks for all the great input. IF is an idea that I have been toying around with for while now and perhaps I could actually commit. With the craziness of my summer schedule, it might be a lot easier to just concern myself with blocks of time than tracking each morsel. I will have to do a little more research and watch some of these videos. 
24 Jun 16 by member: izzypup68
Good job HCB. I have 5 months IF under my belt. I learned the IF ratios from you guys here on FatSecret. I don't ratio it, I just use the hunger scale. 12:00 to 3:00 is my favorite time to eat. Last night I made it until about 9:00 pm last night. I have bacon and eggs in the fridge, kind of craving it today. Well good luck Redgirl1974. 
24 Jun 16 by member: JoshFS
So far so good, Red. I started with 5:2 and found it pretty easy after a couple weeks . Somehow after about a month and without really trying, I migrated to the 16:8. Now I do both. Eat only from Noon to 6 pm everyday and still do 600 max cals on Monday and Thursday. I like it a lot. I track everything, even mints, but when I eat, I eat whatever I want. (BTW, Altoids are 10 cals per 3 mints!)  
24 Jun 16 by member: Five-Two Cowboy
Red, I'm a newbie to IF too. Love the results! Fasting is the fastest way to attain keto. My FS BFF Buddy: SeekerofGrace & I both surpassed our weight loss goal this week together. We also did the 3 days "egg fast" this week. She really stuck to it and surpassed me quickly. Maybe somebody can chime in on the reason why eggs (choline). Here is a site my FS BFF shared with me with amazing recipes too! http://www.ibreatheimhungry.com/2014/07/egg-fast-diet-menu-plan-low-carb-keto.html Check it out. Pinterest has a lot of info on it too. I created a FS 3 Days Egg Fast challenge for anybody who is interested.  
24 Jun 16 by member: Lifesatrip
Knuckles - Is your IF challenge posted on FS now? 
24 Jun 16 by member: Lifesatrip
IF is an awesome method to follow and can really kickstart things for you Red . If you eat good fats it should keep you satiated ,, no growling . Good Luck keep us posted . 
24 Jun 16 by member: Tamarah Jo
Dr. Jung has some great info on his blogs about IF https://intensivedietarymanagement.com/page/5/ 
24 Jun 16 by member: nyhardhat

     
 

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