HardDaysKnight's Journal, 19 March 2018

Here's the "dirty secret" of weight loss.

It doesn't matter what you eat.

It's only calories that matter.

http://www.cnn.com/2010/HEALTH/11/08/twinkie.diet.professor/index.html

Diet Calendar Entries for 19 March 2018:
1435 kcal Fat: 83.15g | Prot: 131.14g | Carb: 41.07g.   Breakfast: Optimum Nutrition Gold Standard 100% Whey - Double Rich Chocolate, Spectrum Organic Virgin Coconut Oil. Lunch: Vegetable Soup (Home Recipe), Optimum Nutrition Gold Standard 100% Whey - Double Rich Chocolate. Dinner: Ground Beef (80% Lean / 20% Fat), Optimum Nutrition Gold Standard 100% Whey - Double Rich Chocolate, Cooked Broccoli (Fat Not Added in Cooking), Cheese. more...
2501 kcal Activities & Exercise: Resting - 16 hours, Sleeping - 8 hours. more...

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That may be true, but I can tell through experience that my body responds to different foods differently. The old saying that "Abs are made in the kitchen: is true, which "You can't out train a poor diet" nicely dovetails. What I eat will determine how well I perform. I log every workout, every rep, and if I eat poorly my workout WILL suffer, and that decreases cal out. Furthermore, all being even under a poor diet I can not develop the body composition I desire eating poorly. Body builders don't eat junk. 
19 Mar 18 by member: adamevegod1
I agree, maybe for some, but I really can't eat most carbs I just blow up like a blood or if I eat very small amounts I loose nothing. Now that I try to exclude them from my diet, I'm losing, everybody's body is so different. 
19 Mar 18 by member: possible?
👍🏻yes I’ve shared this link a few times on here, it’s a good one. But yes of course nutrition content plays a roll in how the body will feel & perform. But in the instance of causing weight gain or loss, it comes down to calories in a deficit or calories in a surplus. 
19 Mar 18 by member: DEADPOOL12345
I wish that were true. I've been doing an honest 1500 for a month, tracking, fat, carbs, sodium, fiber and protein....and not getting anywhere. Argh. Any ideas? 
19 Mar 18 by member: KimKimber
Calories dont matter, I did it your way for 10 years and all I got was sick and fat, while running 5 times a week and lefting weights. Changed to High Fat Low Carb for last 5 years, havnt counted calories in the last 5. I'm now at my high school meassurements in waist size, from 42 inch waist to 32, not counting calories and not doing crazy cardio, just making good food choices. Learn about whats going on, this is a good place to start: https://www.amazon.com/s/?ie=UTF8&keywords=gary+taubes+why+we+get+fat&tag=googhydr-20&index=aps&hvadid=241589296482&hvpos=1t2&hvnetw=g&hvrand=9201975785780888647&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=e&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9015344&hvtargid=kwd-302070321358&ref=pd_sl_il48203g0_e 
19 Mar 18 by member: pokeyjoey
You are correct Sir. I am living proof of that. I try to watch my fat intake, but I also don't avoid it. My philosophy is, though the low carb diets do work, you have come off that diet sooner or later. I believe a simple, low calorie diet does a better job preparing you for the future to keep the weight off. 
19 Mar 18 by member: ggreen67
People who switch to “low carb” diets are taking in less calories. It’s not the reduction of carbs it’s the reduction of calories. Since most of those foods consumed causing weight gain were higher in carbs=higher in calories. 
19 Mar 18 by member: DEADPOOL12345
Furthermore, nutrition aside. If the foods we consumed caused us to be fat, and not the calorie amounts. Then that guy would have gained fat by eating all the “junk” food. Also I would gain a bunch of fat and be unhealthy as well, but I’m losing fat and am in even better shape, regerdlesss of food choices. 
19 Mar 18 by member: DEADPOOL12345
Interesting responses. Please note, as the article points out, that long term health benefits are undoubtedly a question, were anyone to undertake this as a lifestyle. Still, I think it makes the point that if you have a calorie deficit, you will lose weight, and your blood workup will show improved numbers, at least it did for this individual. A large study would be interesting, and for those who say this doesn't work, it is certainly needed. @KimKimber: the only thing I can say is that, based on this article, if you have a calorie deficit you will lose weight. 
19 Mar 18 by member: HardDaysKnight
Kimkimber It’s 100% true, but I can’t say what you’re doing wrong due to your profile is private. My guess is if you’re Truly and correctly tracking calories and not consuming more without realizing or not tracking extra bites of whatever contributing to extra calories consumed. Then there are a couple things which may be the culprit. Either A: you are in fact losing fat/weight, but it’s not showing visually because you have a lot to lose (or very little) and it takes weeks-months depending on the amount of body fat to show a difference. Or B: you’re not going low enough in calories/burning enough off. If u want to message me for extra help go ahead. 
19 Mar 18 by member: DEADPOOL12345
Did I not indicate I ran a 10 year exerpiement using myself as the control where I watched my calories like a hawk and ate whatever I wanted ? And that when I changed to HFLC and my food choices I saw different results ? Following the Scientific Method, where you define a Hypothesis and evelaute results, this is how the Experiement worked out: Hypothesis: Only Calories Count, weight loss and health improves Results: Waist line and health did not improve ... for 10 years Hypothesis: HFLC will lead to better health, weight loss and health improves Results: Waist line and health improves. Better Sleep, no longer am chronically sick etc. 15 years of experience doesn't count because you quote an article posted on CNN ?  
19 Mar 18 by member: pokeyjoey
it has to be.. ive been eating undrr 1500 cal per day, madd protien nd fat. sooo crazy. nd i have never dropped weight so fast.. well maybe as a kid. but not now.. im soo excited.. 100% convinced.. 😁 
19 Mar 18 by member: poison1vy
I read something this morning; "Carbs are not evil, junk food is" but every body is different ,so find what works for best for you.  
19 Mar 18 by member: Keilin_4
@pokejoey: First, it's not my way. Second, the point of the article is simply this: his blood workup numbers improved, despite the fact that he was primarily eating Twinkies, arguably the worst "food" imaginable. Third, if your goal was weight loss, and you did not achieve it on a high carb diet, then you were not restricting your calories enough. Period. There's simply no way around it. If somehow calorie deficits don't cause weight loss for you when you eat certain foods, then you should immediately contact a research hospital for a study on your miraculous metabolic system. Fourth, it is quite possible that on a HFLC diet, you found it much easier to restrict your calories (either knowingly or not), because of the lack of insulin response. That's one of the major benefits of HFLC, but weight loss is still due to calorie deficits. Fifth, it's great your feeling better, but that could be to any number of reasons. For example, your body has less inflammation from a HFLC diet, or you are avoiding other foods that were creating an allergic response. You also changed your exercise routine, that could play a major role, as aerobics is known to cause inflammation and muscle loss. While your weight loss and feeling better is great, and we can all celebrate your success, the point of the article is that no matter what the food, as long as there's a calorie deficit weight will be lost (which is not even a question), but more to the point, HDLs, LDLs, triglycerides, will also improve. Finally, is anybody recommending a diet of Twinkies? No. The article did not, and I'm not. Very narrowly, to say it one more time, calorie deficits cause weight loss no matter what the food. 
19 Mar 18 by member: HardDaysKnight
Ok it’s all related 100% to calories, not talking about if certain foods are considered healthier than others, which even that doesn’t matter when the specific goal is to lose or gain weight. any amount of calorie reduction results in weight being lost. Doesn’t matter if the food is healthy or unhealthy or high fat or low fat or high carb or low carb etc. a calorie deficit is a calorie deficit. You removed 80% of your carbs from your diet= less calories being eaten, removing any amount high enough of fat/carbs/protein than what you were previously consuming will always result in less calories consumed. Look at the foods I eat, and I’ll post again various days of what I’ve eaten along with my before/after pic, I would be gaining a ton of fat and not losing anything if it came down to the amount of carbs being the problem, or fat, or protein. the ONLY way to lose weight is by burning more calories than you consume or by eating less or a combination of both. I can already tell you that with your 10 year experiment, you most likely were not accurately tracking calories, overestimating calories burned, not adhering to your diet, not properly tracking weight, eating more than you thought, and a combination of many other proven reasons why people think they’re doing everything right, when they’re not. And many studies prove this is all too common. If the amount of carbs were EVER the reason people gained fat the Twinkie diet guy wouldn’t every lose fat. Again if the amount of food was the reason or type of food that caused weight, this guy wouldn’t lose it either. https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/business/2014/01/06/mcdonalds-nutrition-fast-food-mcdonalds-menu/4339395/ And if “junk food” was the reason people got fat, guess what so would this guy. https://youtu.be/QnpmbSqV3O4 And for much more information to show you that it all has to Do with calories consumed which will lead to weight loss/weight gain. https://weightology.net/insulin-an-undeserved-bad-reputation/ I can continue posting but I would be doing it all day. So I’ll save the rest of the facts for another day.  
19 Mar 18 by member: DEADPOOL12345
@adamevegod1: I totally agree that you cannot out train a poor diet, and you cannot body build on junk. McGuff said some where (I think in an interview with Mercola) that it was very easy to overwhelm training benefits by poor diet. I think he said something like, it's 10% training and 90% diet. The point is well taken.  
19 Mar 18 by member: HardDaysKnight
The person in the article deducted 800 calories from his diet. Most people don't go down that much. We can think that some people are not being honest and eat more than they say but we also have to accept the fact that some are also honest and really do take in the amount of calories that they say they do and do not lose. Certain foods affect people differently. I believe in a well balanced diet and I believe to a certain point that calories in and calories out works but what about different foods affecting different people? Eat for you type of body? Some people should have more proteins, fat or carbs than others. Once they figure that out then it's easier to lose for them. If I eat too much fat I will not be able to move. There goes my exercise for the day! We react differently to certain foods and I am not willing to say that everyone who does not lose with calories in and calories out is being dishonest.  
19 Mar 18 by member: Charlotte_15
Charlotte_15 Yes certain people in specific majority who do have certain elements that will effect their bodies different than the rest of us who don’t would be ones with medical conditions, such as diabetes, they can only have a specific amount of carbohydrates per meal. Other people under normal non medical conditions may not exercise, so the amount of macronutrients (protein/fat/carbs) they need to benefit them and be healthy would be considerably less than a physically active person, who would need more of those in their diet to fit their needs goals and preferences.  
19 Mar 18 by member: DEADPOOL12345
Deadpool this is not what I am saying. What I am trying to say is that some people are telling you the truth when they say that they eat at a deficit and they don't lose. Some people might be more successful with more carbs or more proteins or more fat than others. One possible result as I stated is having a higher ratio of fat. That will render me sluggish. For others it might be carbs! A person will move less if they don't have the energy. Different foods can affect people. You have to believe that some people are telling you the truth and think of solutions from another perspective.  
19 Mar 18 by member: Charlotte_15
literally the only way to lose ANY amount of weight is by a deficit of calories. If they’re in a deficit weight will be lost 100% of the time. That doesn’t just mean body fat, that could mean muscle as well. A deficit of calories is the only way possible 100%. Its the law of physics! I can believe people “think“ they’rein a deficit, when the reality is they’re not, for different variables relating to many aspects of diet adherence, proper tracking, how the body processes various macros etc. I get what you’re trying to say, but I’m speaking of facts and science and basic biology. Everyone loses body fat the same way, everyone gains body fat the same way, muscle is built the same way and lost the same way. By saying someone “is in a deficit and not losing” means they’re not in a deficit, it would also mean they’re breaking the laws of physics. So for more accurate information and true facts and sources to disputes this, again. Read this one. https://sciencebasedmedicine.org/why-we-get-fat/ And this one. http://wholehealthsource.blogspot.com/2011/08/carbohydrate-hypothesis-of-obesity.html?m=1 Literally I can post the science and facts all day long. It’s 100% true and evident, it is impossible to say a deficit of calories will not cause weight loss, literally impossible.  
19 Mar 18 by member: DEADPOOL12345

     
 

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