Caterpillar2Butterfly's Journal, 24 June 2016

Good morning, buddies! 😀 Beware of any calls you may get from "Supremo". I got a call yesterday from someone who claimed to be from the company stating that I was entitled a refund for some tech support that I received over a year ago. They told me to go to my computer & download the Supremo app so that they could send me the appropriate form to fill out. Naturally, they were going to need my credit card info to apply it. I hung up, and called the company. It was definitely a scam. It may not be diet related, but I just wanted to make my buddies aware that people aren't as honest as they used to be! The world has changed.

Now, for the diet related part. I just want to make sure that all of my buddies on the ketogenic diet know that most amino acids are ANTI ketigenic.

All tissues have some capability for synthesis of the non-essential amino acids, amino acid remodeling, and conversion of non-amino acid carbon skeletons into amino acids and other derivatives that contain nitrogen. However, the liver is the major site of nitrogen metabolism in the body. In times of dietary surplus, the potentially toxic nitrogen of amino acids is eliminated via transaminations, deamination, and urea formation; the carbon skeletons are generally conserved as carbohydrate, via gluconeogenesis, or as fatty acid via fatty acid synthesis pathways. In this respect amino acids fall into three categories: glucogenic, ketogenic, or glucogenic and ketogenic. Glucogenic amino acids are those that give rise to a net production of pyruvate or TCA cycle intermediates, such as 2-oxoglutarate (α-ketoglutarate) or oxaloacetate, all of which are precursors to glucose via gluconeogenesis. All amino acids except lysine and leucine are at least partly glucogenic. Lysine and leucine are the only amino acids that are solely ketogenic, giving rise only to acetyl-CoA or acetoacetyl-CoA, neither of which can bring about net glucose production.

http://themedicalbiochemistrypage.org/amino-acid-metabolism.php#intro

Have a great day, buddies!

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That's some fascinating shiznit! Have a great weekend. 
24 Jun 16 by member: jimmiepop
plain english plz...gm cat2b...have a great one... 
24 Jun 16 by member: wannabhealthier
GM, WBH! YOU TOO! To put it simply, all amino acids except lysine and leucine can effect one's level of ketosis (the ability to burn fat for fuel). 
24 Jun 16 by member: Caterpillar2Butterfly
gottcha thanks 
24 Jun 16 by member: wannabhealthier
Yw! ☺ 
24 Jun 16 by member: Caterpillar2Butterfly
Hmmm...good info! 
24 Jun 16 by member: mskestrela
Sounds like something Ollie said, only more factsy. 
24 Jun 16 by member: LadyinDenim
@Carmen... thanks! You too! 
24 Jun 16 by member: Caterpillar2Butterfly
@Debra, no I'm not agreeing with Ollie that we don't require protein/amino acids at all. I agree with Dr. Rosedale that we need a very limited amount (from real food, not supplements) for longevity. If one believes the Theory of Evaluation, then part of the theory is that consuming protein was the main factor in evolving. (via "The Perfect Human Diet" on dietdoctor.com)  
24 Jun 16 by member: Caterpillar2Butterfly
The bottom line, I think, is that consuming excess protein is metabolically taxing because our bodies have to work so hard turning it into "other stuff." Is that the takeaway? 
24 Jun 16 by member: LadyinDenim
Yes, Lady, that and that it nor amino acids in supplements compliment a ketogenic diet. 
24 Jun 16 by member: Caterpillar2Butterfly
Let me make clear that I PERSONALLY don't agree with EVERYTHING that is on "The Perfect Human Diet". Dr. Rosedale's presentation on dietdoctor.com is my PERSONAL beliefs of the way MY macros should be. 
24 Jun 16 by member: Caterpillar2Butterfly
^^ SORRY THAT COMMENT UP THERE SHOULD HAVE SAID @LADY. *multitasking again...lol* 
24 Jun 16 by member: Caterpillar2Butterfly
Oh! I hadn't put 2+2 together. Those protein drinks are amino acid supplements. 
24 Jun 16 by member: LadyinDenim
Yes, lady, but AA can also be bought in other forms. 
24 Jun 16 by member: Caterpillar2Butterfly
I had no idea 😐 
24 Jun 16 by member: LadyinDenim
@Lady... what you or anyone else decides to put in their bodies is an independent decision that I'm very fond of everyone making for themselves. I'm just throwing some info out there. 
24 Jun 16 by member: Caterpillar2Butterfly
I got a call from a number caller ID said was from Enid OK, I looked the number up in the google machine and it's apparently a computer virus scam of some kind. I called the number back and got the "This Number Is No Longer In Service" error message. I wish I knew how people call from disconnected numbers. As to the amino acid issue, I haven't taken vitamins or supplements in months and I feel fine!! :D  
24 Jun 16 by member: 1point21gigawatts
@Phil... these ppl are from over seas some where. I swear to God, they are at it again today! I normally try to keep my shit together, but these mfers have REALLY got me pissed off! 
24 Jun 16 by member: Caterpillar2Butterfly
I'm considering going completely internet free! 
24 Jun 16 by member: Caterpillar2Butterfly

     
 

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