CatHerder's Journal, 23 November 2015

Happy Monday!

My workouts for last week were the following.

Monday - 11 Sprints, 30 sec sprint/60 sec jog, Max pace 5:47/mile
Tuesday - Weights Upper body/ core
Wednesday - 9 hill sprints
Thursday - Off (took DW in for a minor procedure)
Friday - Run 1 hour, 6.11 miles, 9:49/mile
Saturday - Run, 1 hour 45 minutes, 10.02 miles, 10:29/mile

Now time for a geek out. What I have been reading is about the energy systems of the body. What I have found out is that there are 3 energy systems in the human body. The body runs on adenosine triphosphate (ATP). All of the energy systems work on either creating or recycling ATP.

The first system is the phosphagen system (also called the ATP-CP system). This uses stored ATP which is broken down to adenosine diphosphate (ADP) plus energy. The ADP is then recycled using creatine phosphate (CP) as a phosphate donor to convert the ADP back to ATP which is then consumed again. This system produces energy quickly but can only last up to 10 seconds due to the limited supply of CP. This is an anaerobic process and does not require oxygen.

The next system is glycolysis. This uses glucose for all out effort lasting 30 sec to 2 minutes. The glucose or glycogen broken down to glucose is converted into pyruvate plus ATP. Each molecule of glucose produces 2 pyruvate and 2 ATP. If there is adequate oxygen available the pyruvate will be used in the next process, if not it will be converted to lactic acid. There is not a corresponding pathway for the breakdown of ketones.

The third system is the aerobic system. This system is used for longer activities and requires oxygen. This system can use glucose, glycogen, fatty acids and ketones as fuel. For glucose and broken down glycogen, it is first converted to pyruvate and then to acetyl-CoA. The acetyl-CoA enters the Krebs cycle (also called the citric acid cycle or TCA cycle) and gets converted to ATP plus intermediaries. Fats can be broken down through beta oxidation to acetyl-CoA which then enters the Krebs cycle.

The main ketone bodies are a and acetoacetate and β-hydroxybutyrate. Ketones are converted to acetoacetate and then to acetyl-CoA which enters the Krebs cycle.

Different exercises utilize the different pathways and can be affected by diet. The ATP-CP system is used for short term, high intensity exercises such as all out sprints or weight lifting. This system is the same on a carbohydrate or ketogenic diet. Supplementing with creatine can super load CP into the muscles.

Glycolysis can only occur on a carbohydrate diet. There is not a similar pathway using ketones. This pathway is utilized during high intensity exercises such as weight lifting and sprinting.

The aerobic system can be utilized whether on a carbohydrate or ketogenic diet. This system is used for endurance type activities. There is some speculation that the ketogenic diet may be superior to the carbohydrate diet for this process.

Well, that about sums it up. So much for my geek session.

Have a great week everybody!

Diet Calendar Entries for 23 November 2015:
2254 kcal Fat: 51.18g | Prot: 152.38g | Carb: 321.85g.   Breakfast: Quaker 100% Whole Grain Oatmeal, CytoSport 100% Whey Protein - Chocolate, Bananas. Lunch: Spicy Chicken Wrap, Great Value Pinto Beans. Dinner: Marketside Classic Iceberg Salad, Bolthouse Farms Classic Balsamic Dressing, Kirkland Signature Chunked Chicken Breast in a Can. Snacks/Other: Apples, Buttered Popcorn Popped in Oil, Swiss Miss Sugar Free Hot Chocolate, Great Value Organic Vitamin D Milk, Apples, Broccoli, Kirkland Signature Steak Strips, Great Value Organic Vitamin D Milk, Swiss Miss Sugar Free Hot Chocolate, Tomatoes, Clif Bar Shot Blocks - Orange. more...
3073 kcal Activities & Exercise: Running 5.2 mph - 45 minutes, Resting - 14 hours and 11 minutes, Sleeping - 9 hours and 4 minutes. more...

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Wow -- thanks for this great information, CH! Now I'm feeling 'educated'!! :) Have a great holiday week . . . 
23 Nov 15 by member: losinit1655
This is very cool -- and happens to plug directly into something I'm researching now. Can you recommend any good resources for further reading?  
23 Nov 15 by member: Lokidixon
So, a question. If somebody is doing a very low carb diet, and doing weights, what are they using for energy? I'm assuming that glycogen wouldn't be available? Or is it? Doesn't the brain run on glycogen? Sorry, I'm not much of a biologist, so probably have got this all wrong! 
23 Nov 15 by member: heidij123
@lokidixon All I did was several google searches. Use terms like glucose to atp, ketones to atp, metabolic pathways in humans, etc. There is a lot of reading out there. 
23 Nov 15 by member: CatHerder
@heidij123 Your body always has some glucose. Your body uses gluconeogenesis to produce glucose in the liver. This glucose is used in the body for the parts that require it. Your muscle can pull this glucose to use. There is a limited supply as gluconeogenesis cranks up during exercise. And yes the brain does require a certain percentage of glucose. In ketosis it can use ketones for up to 70% of its energy needs. 
23 Nov 15 by member: CatHerder
Thanks! 
24 Nov 15 by member: Lokidixon
An interesting metabolic observation that I had one gym night was to test my BG before and after lifting weights. My BG went from 72 to 118 in about 90 minutes of JUST lifting weight. No cardio. Gluconeogenesis in effect. I've got friends who aren't using Keto, that hit metabolic energy walls after 30 to 40 minutes and need to 'carb up'. Last night I worked out lifting weights for almost 3 hours with lots of energy to spare. I only had to pack up shop because of the late hour.  
24 Nov 15 by member: Frosty Heimdall
@Frosty - had a similar experience when working out doing low carb with my BG. Mine would go up into the same range. I attributed to my liver releasing stored glycogen to meet the demand of my muscles. I've read the GNG is a rather slow process and proceeds at a relatively constant rate independent of the amount of substrate available. Another thing that I would notice with low carb/keto is that my morning BG would be slightly elevated and then decrease throughout the day. I'm not sure if the increase would be enough to cause an insulin release so there may have been issues with muscle uptake. Being on a more traditional diet there should be enough glycogen/glucose to support about 90 minutes of intense activity. I'm not sure why your friends would need to carb up in that short of a time but everyone is different. I also agree that there might be an advantage to ketosis for long endurance aerobic activities. I'm glad you can sustain your workouts for that long. Sounds like it's working for you which is great. Keep up the good work! 
25 Nov 15 by member: CatHerder
Maybe Frosty's friends are carboholics like me 😀 If I go out walking, I always carry some sweet biscuits because I sometimes get giddy, and need a quick carb fix. Don't know why, I've had tests done and don't have a problem with blood sugar. I do 5:2 fasting, and when I exercise on fast days, I eat a couple of those biscuits before I start, and it will get me through an hour of reasonably hard walking, and they are only little wholemeal things, 26 calories each, so well worth it to get an hour's exercise in. Is it just having something in my stomach? Is it even just psychological? I don't know! Anyway, it works for me, and I think that's the key thing. 
25 Nov 15 by member: heidij123

     
 

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