etyls
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What if I do NOT stop the diet?
an00bis wrote:
Etyls, to clarify, I agree with everything you're saying. Quoting you in my post was just a stepping stone to making my points, it wasn't intended to be a "you're a big liar face!" post.


No problem, I just wanted to be clear that I didn't think there was any magic or incantations involved, just that the specifics are largely beyond my ken!
posted 28 Apr 2011, 20:57
What if I do NOT stop the diet?
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If you run a lot, you'll develop a lot of type 1 fibers, which produce a thin, not-very-muscular looking body. Weight lifting with different quantities of time under the stress recruits different kinds of fibers as well (2a vs 2b). So, in essence you're right, but it's a lot more scientific than that.


Sure. I don't think what I said was ever intended to substitute for scientific literature. It was, as they say, a short-hand. Thanks for shedding light on the specific fiber-type relationship there.

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Yeah, the medical and health-science community quite clearly knows what the relationship is. It's the common folk that misinterpret it. Physics is physics. If you burn 4000 calories, but consume 3500, there is a 500 calorie deficit...The reason why people are disputing the "calories in vs calories out" fact (notice, fact, not theory) is because they're looking at the equation incorrectly.


Two things here, An00bis. First, I wasn't implying that the relationship isn't known at all, only that the relationship is less clear than the simple addition and subtraction of calories one does when using the tools on this website. I have no doubt that there are people out there who can quite capably explain the process in a coherent and straightforward manner, so I certainly don't think this is all a magical mystery. (ahem.)

Second, (...imagine, if you will, a perfectly spherical cow...) when dealing with estimates for calories burned during exercise, basal metabolic rates, and the consumption and conversion of foods, the problem is the very fact that these components are just estimates. The exact numbers are not going to be reflected in the Fatsecret calculator and food counter; so, while your informative post is very pertinent and interesting, the bottom line is that the calculators used on this websites are based on estimates: the relationship (and here I'm clarifying; apologies if I wasn't clear before) between calories consumed as estimated through the Fatsecret calculator, the calories burned as estimated by the Fatsecret basal metabolism calculator, and the calories burned by the Fatsecret exercise calculator is not always a stable one due to complicating factors which, for my limited knowledge, make the relationship "not as clear," since my primary engagement with this data is through the tools on this site, rather than through something more sophisticated, informative, and accurate.
posted 28 Apr 2011, 15:13
What if I do NOT stop the diet?
I think it depends on your diet. Just glancing at your calendar, I notice that you often have periods where you're below 1,000 calories/day (sometimes by quite a bit). That seems a little low to me, and while you do balance it out on the net with days where your intake is significantly higher, if you were to try to maintain this sub-1,000 calorie diet indefinitely, it's possible it may lead to health problems I suppose. I wouldn't encourage you to try to maintain such a low caloric intake for extended periods.

That being said, I think if you continued with the tenets of your diet (your emphasis on healthy, whole foods), but maintained a healthier calorie intake and leveled out those peaks and valleys a bit, you would reach the point where your basal metabolism at whatever weight would match your regular caloric intake.

HKaruga also makes a good point. The relationship between calories and weight is not as clear as once thought, and there are certainly a great many factors that affect such things. I'm basically of the opinion that your body shapes itself around what you do. If you sit in chairs all day and don't eat much, you'll look a certain way. If you eat a lot, move a lot, exercise a lot, you'll look a very different way. There's a number of "shapes" in between and beyond those positions but you get the idea. Do what you want to look.
posted 27 Apr 2011, 01:01
Protein Thoughts
xjm: Wow! I'm working up to longer rides, but right now commuting 30mi. (round trip) to work twice a week pushes my limits a little bit... but that's often because I'm hauling ass because I'm late!!

As far as meat, I'm not committed to any position that makes me question its role in my diet, so I tend to have lean meat with dinner because it's easy, relatively inexpensive when you follow sales, and I think it tastes good. I think that I could probably get around it if I needed to, especially if allowing for eggs and cheese. I guess if I'm being honest I just do it out of habit, ease (only because I know how to cook with it already), and taste preference.

My after-session food usually involves a banana or some other piece of fruit and a bran muffin or something. I usually eat dinner within 1-2 hours of finishing my afternoon ride, and my dinner meals tend to be either copious amounts of quinoa, lean meat, and a very large bunch of broccoli with a touch of butter/salt or lean meat, quinoa, beans, and a veggie with tortillas. More or less, I try to make the plate look like a pie chart where veggies makes up 40%, Quinoa makes up 30%, and a piece of meat (in whatever form) makes up 30%. Sometimes that dinner gets pushed back a little bit, and I can definitely feel it the next day. Toast with peanut butter and honey (or PBB [bananas! An old Elvis Presley favorite]) is a great idea! I'll have to incorporate that into my plan; sounds like a fast, simple solution to getting a little post-workout energy.

When I bonk train, however, I eat immediately after the ride, usually a bagel/muffin/scone, fruit, and a hard-boiled egg or something similar. Thanks for the tip!
posted 25 Apr 2011, 10:58
Protein, Carbs, Fat Ratio
Low fat, high good protein, mid-to-high carbs. Vary depending on your activity level. I know a lot of people are anti-carb here (lots of Atkins people I've noticed!), but if you're just doing a high-activity, low-calorie diet, you'll need those carbs or you're going to feel like you're always bonking!
posted 24 Apr 2011, 23:00
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