Group Forum: I've read about "calorie confusion" dieting

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Jen Lines

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Posted: 31 May 2016, 07:37
1200 one day, 2000 the next, and repeat. Is this similar to what your group is about?
river rat...

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Posted: 02 Jun 2016, 06:30
Similar I suppose. My wife and I started the "Every Other Day Diet" as laid out by Krista Varady and her research at the University of Illinois at Chicago. She has researched the effects of fasting extensively. In her plan its 500 calories on a "fast day" any anything you want on a "feast day". Those days alternate, hence the name Every Other Day Diet.I am starting day 49 and so far I have lost a little over 25 pounds. I started the diet April 15 weighing 218.7 and weighed in at 193.3 this morning. One of the things her research seems to indicate is that our bodies adjust to that 48 hour cycle which then helps the weight loss. That is different than say the 5/2 diet where not only are you fasting less but there isn't a set cycle ones body can adjust to. The downside I see is that because feasting days are unlimited there will be some small percentage of folks who "abuse" the feast to the point where they don't lose weight.
What appeals to me about this plan I am on is that:
1. Its simple: 500 calories today, anything I want tomorrow, repeat
2. its free...no investment, in fact your grocery bills go down
3. Its based on several years of scientific research.
The 500 calorie day is not as hard as it might seem. Yes I am hungry during the day but it helps knowing that I am never more than 24 hours from eating anything I want. It has made me begin to pay attention to what I eat on feast days which is why I have lost so much weight.
Since there is no investment involved its easy to give it a try. There are folks who shouldn't though,(at least not without a doctors approval) like folks with diabetes or breast feeding mothers.
trackin64

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Posted: 02 Jun 2016, 08:00
I'm just reading Varady's book now, and scanned the 5:2 diet book at the bookstore. I did the every other day plan for 3 weeks (Dr. Johnson's version), though I increased my calories to as much as 800 on the "fast" days. Now I am doing the 5:2 plan as I found every other day a bit too intense. I am able to live with 500 cals on the fast days and I do them on a set schedule (Mon and Thurs) so I believe that the body can accept that as a cycle. It seems almost magical that this system works and it DOES work. Most importantly I think it is sustainable for the long term and leads naturally into a maintenance phase. Gone is that mental tug of war with the "forbidden fruit" that you have when you are dieting every day. There is far less stress about "sticking to it" when you only need to do that for one day. I find I am more picky about my "treats" and I can envision not caring about having any at all on some days. I can actually become aware of my appetite instead of always imposing "outside rules" on my eating behavior every single day. In my case the inner rebel tends to rise up and any weight loss is quickly regained. Time will tell if this method is the answer to my weight issues.
~Patience and persistence are muscles one can develop~
river rat...

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Posted: 02 Jun 2016, 11:53
I stumbled across the 5:2 diet before the EOD diet. It seemed intriguing and both my wife and I wanted significant weight loss before an October 1st wedding of a daughter. While researching the 5:2 diet I came across the EOD diet. I liked what I saw with the EOD better in terms of the scientific research behind it. Given our weight loss goals in the time frame we have it also made more sense to fast 7 days out of 14 instead of 4 days assuming we could pull it off. So far it has been easier than I would have imagined. I weigh myself every morning when I wake up and seeing the loss the morning after a fast day is a powerful motivator. It also helps get through a fast day knowing my weigh the next morning will show more pounds gone.
In the end there are numerous diets that will work assuming one can stick to them. The key to each of our success is finding a diet we can stick to.
trackin64

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Posted: 02 Jun 2016, 20:25
Absolutely - Finding the diet you can stick to is the most important thing!
~Patience and persistence are muscles one can develop~
Jen Lines

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Posted: 07 Jun 2016, 07:51
I'm thinking I'll start with an every other day and see how that goes. It seems to me that it can't hurt to follow one plan for a while (since I have SUCH a long way to go) and switch it up after a few months to something else. Of course I have to get to the "few months" point before knowing how I feel Smile
river rat...

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Posted: 07 Jun 2016, 11:36
Both my wife and I have been very pleased with the results so far. We have grown accustomed to the 500 calorie days and while I won't say they are "fun" they are not that hard. Since I posted at 193.3 pounds on June 2 I am down to 190.6 which is keeping with my average loss of about 0.54 pounds a day. That average is accurate but its important to say I usually gain a little after a feast day but lose more than I gain after a fast day. So my downward trend is a small roller-coaster. Here is my daily weigh in results for the last several days
-2.3
+1.1
-2.1
+0.2
-0.5
-0.6
-1.3
+1.9
-2.8
+0.7
-1.5
+1.7
-1.7
+1.2
-2.4

As you can see they are up and down but the overall trend is down significantly. I made a spread sheet and I weigh in daily.

We are also walking about 2 miles a day.

fraidycat3

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Posted: 07 Jul 2016, 15:05
I started up my weightloss campaign at the end of May after reaching my all-time high weight. At first I tried an Atkins type diet and cut out sugar and carbs. This was a killer and I only lost about 3 pounds. Soon I remembered why I had quit a low-carb/high fat/high protein diet in the past --I got so sick of eating eggs and meat all the time! I started researching and read the book The Obesity Code: Unlocking the Secrets of Weightloss and ran headlong into the idea of Intermittent Fasting. Then I found a documentary on YouTube that was done by the BBC called "Eat, Fast and Live Longer" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ihhj_VSKiTs
After two weeks of 5:2 eating I've averaged one pound lost per fast day (2 pounds a week). Nothing has allowed me to shift my weight so quickly, EVER. The great thing is I feel alert and in great spirits. I try to maximize my success by only eating during a consecutive 8 hour period during my Feast days (12-8 pm usually) and this seems to really be working. Best of all, I'm not as hungry on my feast days and I eat the types of foods that are soul satisfying again (read: carbs and some sugar, note: i've lost the taste for dense sugar-filled foods, thank goodness). So glad to have found this way of eating.




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