500 calorie or less diet experiment

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catlynk

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Posted: 08 Jun 2011, 09:08
I am blogging my 30 day mostly liquid diet of 500 or less calories a day.

If interested in seeing my progress here is the linke

http://under500calorieadayexperiment.blogspot.com/
Catherine
Nimm

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Posted: 08 Jun 2011, 09:25
a) You shouldn't do this.

b) If you are going to do it, please do it under a physician's supervision.
greerp

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Posted: 08 Jun 2011, 10:19
c) No physician in their right mind would ever recommend or supervise this - so get a new one if they do
d) Say goodbye to your lean muscle mass
kokusho

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Posted: 08 Jun 2011, 10:20
I agree with Nimm, except for part b. Don't do it, period.

But hey, have fun destroying your metabolism, becoming less healthy, and losing LESS weight than you would on a sensible diet.

Good job on being an idiot though.
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PantherIII

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Posted: 08 Jun 2011, 10:24
No need for the "idiot" part. But I will have to agree with everybody. Your body NEEDS nourishment, there is no quick fix to actual weight loss. If you can't muster up the will power to commit yourself to a healthy way of eating and exercise to help you get to your goal, wait until you can.
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Adelinemf

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Posted: 08 Jun 2011, 10:26
This is NEVER a good idea. You will be putting your body into starvation mode. It will start to break down your muscle mass in order to feed itself. There are many more healthy ways of losing weight that I hope that you will "experiment" with. Good luck!
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Angel_Bunni

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Posted: 08 Jun 2011, 11:09
I have found that my metabolism is screwy anyway. I can only take in about 1100 calories a day without gaining weight. I am under a doctors supervision, and am regularly checking to make sure I am not passing ketones in my urine (a sign my body is in starvation mode - reflects protein being broken down). I am also taking lots of vitamins to make up for what I am not getting in my foods.

I agree with everyone here, do not go on a 500, or even an 1100 calorie diet without being under a doctors supervision. You can go into cardiac arrest if something goes wrong. Your electrolytes can get thrown way off if you are not taking in enough....and if thrown off enough, it will stop your heart.
kokusho

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Posted: 08 Jun 2011, 11:25
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No need for the "idiot" part.

I disagree. I mean, have you read the blog?
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Blindside

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Posted: 08 Jun 2011, 11:35
So far I see you have lost 10lbs in 1 week. I know you must feel great but please listen to everyone's advice. It's not healthy and sadly when you get off the 'experiment' you will gain back the weight. You will be much more disappointed in the end.

I believe if you have the will power to go through 30 days under 500 calories you definetely have the will power to try a different healthier approach.
The LORD does not look at the things people look at. People look at the outward appearance, but the LORD looks at the heart.
1 Samuel 16:7
ADobs

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Posted: 08 Jun 2011, 11:41
Take it from someone with personal experience, do not got down to 500 calories per day. Go up to at least 1,200 and you will still lose as your body requires at least 1,200 just to function.
Your body keeps an accurate journal regardless of what you write down...
kingkeld

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Posted: 08 Jun 2011, 11:45
Uhhh...
I hope a "don't feed the trolls" comment is appropriate here. Surely this is a joke.
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Posted: 08 Jun 2011, 11:51
Catherine, you're killing yourself. If ever there was a way to feel like a failure, this is it. Your body, your LIFE, is not something to experiment with. If this is a cry for help, consider it answered. If you really think this is a good idea and is going to garner you real, sustainable weight loss, how much food you eat (or don't eat) is probably the least of your problems. I pray for you.
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lisakp71

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Posted: 08 Jun 2011, 11:53
I'll take Panther's thought one step further: if you can muster the willpower to stay at 500 calories a day even though you're quite literally starving, surely you can muster the willpower for a new, healthy way of life?

Be safe, please! This is dangerous and unnecessary and (maybe most persuasively) counterproductive: your new 500-calorie-trained metabolism will wreak havoc on days 31 on. Please reconsider.
an00bis

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Posted: 08 Jun 2011, 12:18
Good News!

Scientists have already done this experiment a bunch of times. The results are always the same:

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A major concern with the use of starvation or semistarvation diets for weight reduction in severely obese people has been the reports ofsudden death due to ventricular arrhythmias.
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Rapid and/or major weight loss damages the heart by decreasing myocardial fiber size. Lack of protein, electrolytes, and micronutrients may contribute to the myofibrillar damage. As a result ofthis damage, electrical instability occurs because of regional inhomogeneities in conduction or generation of abnormal impulses. Transient extra cardiac stimuli, including stress, alter sympathetic nervous system activity, and catecholamines, acting upon the electrically unstable heart, may precipitate fatal arrhythmias.

http://www.ajcn.org/content/56/1/230S.full.pdf+html

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Abstract: To compare weight loss on a balanced hypocaloric diet to that of a Very Low Calorie Diet (VLCD) after two months of treatment and to further compare 26 months of weight maintenance and safety with or without VLCD assistance in obese patients.
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the mean body weight loss in the VLCD group was 18.9 +/- 7.1 kg compared to 7.2 +/- 4.8 kg in the diet treated group, with a similar relative fat loss assessed by bioimpedance of 68% and 76% respectively

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/9226488

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Risk of gallstone formation in obese persons during active weight loss seems to increase in an exponential fashion. The data suggest that rates of weight loss should not exceed an average of 1.5 kg per week.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/7847427

I guess now you can stop that nonsense, start a real, practical nutritional scheme, keep your muscle, and lose way more fat in the remaining 20+ days.

You're welcome.
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radiochick

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Posted: 08 Jun 2011, 13:05
This is part of the all or nothing sickness inside of your brain that got us all fat to begin with.

Step 1: Overindulge, gain weight
Step 2: Panic, overcompensate with super restricted "diet", lose weight (not fat, lose weight, meaning muscle and water and glycogen)
Step 3: Give up part way through diet Or even complete diet "successfully", either way diet ends
Step 4: Gain Weight rapidly, get depressed, give up because you think you'll never be successful.

And then the cycle continues..... forever....


OR... wake up one day and realize that Extreme eating makes you fat.
AND Extreme dieting makes you fat.

I repeat Extreme dieting makes you fat.

New Plan:
Stop with the all or nothing.... go with the "something" approach.
Step 1: Figure out how many calories you body really needs.
Step 2: Plan meals around that level of calories that include healthy food choices with real nutrition (protein, fruit, vegg, complex carbs)
Step 3: Try new activities like swimming, dance class, walking, biking.. something that starts to get you moving
Step 4: Maintain balance
Step 5: Forgive your mistakes and maintain balance
Step 6: Enjoy your new healthy lifestyle, new healthy body, and new healthy mindset.

much love. Hope you get help.
kstubblefiel...

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Posted: 08 Jun 2011, 13:48
I have nothing else to say to the OP since I commented in her journal this morning & decided to let it go after that. Just wanted to say THANK YOU to the rest of you for confirming I am not alone in my opinions about this "experiment."
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AmethystM

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Posted: 08 Jun 2011, 16:10
an00bis-great links

Good luck with that, and I hope you're not dead in 30 days. I'll be over here eating 2000 calories a day and at goal weight.
Comfortable at this size/weight (I really don't want to buy size 0 jeans).

It's not about "weight" or the number on the scale. It's about lean muscle mass and body fat percentage.
At 125 I was a size 8 (after I lost 100+ pounds over 1.5 years).
At 135 I was a size 6 (maintained for several years) and over 28% body fat. I had 97 pounds of lean muscle mass and felt skinny fat.
Now at 140 I am a size 2 and have the smallest measurements I've ever had since I started taking them around the age of 18. I'm at 25% body fat and 107 pounds of lean muscle mass!! I'm no She-Hulk, either.

Don't tell me you aren't losing "weight." That doesn't tell me anything. Tell me how much fat you've lost and how much lean body mass you've gained. Here's a good start to estimate: http://www.scientificpsychic.com/fitness/diet.html
Jannabelle

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Posted: 08 Jun 2011, 17:37
Here's some "food for thought": one of my sisters did the liquid protein diet twice: once when she was 40 and another time when she was 42. She lost 100 pounds the first time....and gained it all back (plus another 10) within 6 months. The second time, she lost 100 pounds....and gained it all back (plus another 20) within 6 months. The minute she started to eat "regular food" she started gaining. Please listen to the advice everyone is giving you about this starvation diet you're on. You will do damage to your body that may not be able to be repaired. Love yourself enough to eat sensibly and exercise more. If you do that, you won't lose weight rapidly, but you lose it slowly and it will stay off. This is a lifelong journey we're all on - no quick fixes when it comes to nutrition and exercise.
kstubblefiel...

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Posted: 08 Jun 2011, 17:46
Jannabelle wrote:
Here's some "food for thought": one of my sisters did the liquid protein diet twice: once when she was 40 and another time when she was 42. She lost 100 pounds the first time....and gained it all back (plus another 10) within 6 months. The second time, she lost 100 pounds....and gained it all back (plus another 20) within 6 months.

Appreciate you sharing that, & I'd be willing to bet your sister did not regularly have 220 calorie days even on a liquid diet, simply because she survived 6 months on it.

I can't begin to imagine the trauma experienced by her body during 100 lbs of weight loss & regain within a year...TWICE. Wow. It is shocking to me the lengths people will go to to avoid losing weight in a healthy & responsible way.
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2013: still up from 1/1, but coming back down...
2010: 50.4 lbs lost | 2011:17 lbs lost | 2012: 1 lb gained
How I did it: http://stubbysticks.wordpress.com/weight-loss-summary-by-month/
Blindside

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Posted: 08 Jun 2011, 17:59
Not 1 single person thinks its a good idea this "experiment". That speaks lots of volume.
The LORD does not look at the things people look at. People look at the outward appearance, but the LORD looks at the heart.
1 Samuel 16:7



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