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Posted: 09 Jul 2010, 08:35
Okay this is NOT my first time doing this but it is the first time I found a buddy willing to do the struggle with me.
Now I'm a carb junkie and a sugar junkie. I can't help it. It's my demon I guess haha
Now what I'm confused about is this:
How many carbs should I be eating? I hit over 100 yesterday... Is this really bad?

Second... I'm eating but my calories are not very high. Let me tell you until a few days ago I was on a sole junk diet. I hate breakfast so I drink coffee.. I snacked on Cakes and cookies and chocolate bars and chips most of the day .. I know bad.
I've eaten a ton since Tuesday but my calories are low and I've lost 2.5 lbs in three days. Now I know this is a lot even though I like it but I can't get more food then I'm eating in me. I gave up junk food (this was my main source of food for the longest time). Oh dieting is hard to do.. Laughing

any advice would be greatly appreciated.. Very Happy

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Posted: 09 Jul 2010, 08:55
My calorie intake is really low, I try to stay between 700-800 calories a day, atleast 50% of that is carbs, but healthy carbs, found in fruits, veggies, etc. not mashed potatoes, pasta or bread which I'd rather!

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Posted: 09 Jul 2010, 08:55
Wow, it sounds like you know you're doing a bunch of stuff wrong, you just have to be willing to fix it. There's nothing magical I can say which will make your awful habits "ok". At least you're recognizing that they need to be changed.

First off: Yeah, eat more. A lot more, but not junk food. Try eating every 2-3 hours, but purely healthy things. Here's a sample day:
Kashi go lean crunch cereal ~180 calories per cup
Blueberries ~like 100? I don't feel like looking it up
Skim milk ~80 calories
2x Flatout flatbread tortilla ~180 cals
4 chicken breast fillets ~400
Lettuce ~like...10?
Tomato (whole 2.5" diam.) ~20
2 eggs (whole) ~150
brown sugar & maple oatmeal ~160
Whey protein (If you weight train) ~120
2 apples (2.5" diam) ~100
2 pieces whole wheat bread ~140
deli fresh shaved ham ~50
reduced fat cheese ~50

Total: ~1740

And that's still probably way too low! You can keep adding fruits and vegetables like cucumbers, blackberries, oranges, nectarines, carrots, etc to snack on.

This will get you plenty of protein. This assumes that your macro-nutrient ratios are pretty loose. Don't worry about carbs, unless you're specifically following atkins or something similar.

If you eat the way you are now, you'll be unhealthy and you'll probably plateau. You're eating so little, your metabolism will probably slow drastically.

Eating similarly to what I posted will give you more energy, and you'll never be hungry. There are so many delicious, healthy foods.
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Posted: 09 Jul 2010, 08:58
You will see too that you will be eating ALOT more but losing more as well. Make yourself eat at the very least 1200 calories a day and make the most of those calories. The above food suggestions are on point !

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Posted: 09 Jul 2010, 09:03
I agree, the above food suggestion is on point, gotta get your calories! :] the first month I did this I didnt, lost 14 lbs and flat lined for 3 weeks, becuase I wasnt eating enought, started eating, started losing :] Keep up your great work!
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Posted: 09 Jul 2010, 17:22
Thanks everyone! Very Happy
This has always been really hard for me. I either binge eat or I have no clue what to eat when I'm dieting and then end up back with my head in a bag of double stuffed oreos... *sob* I hope I can get on the right track. Trial and Error is my philosophy.

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Posted: 09 Jul 2010, 17:42

You mentioned carbs and sugars. Are you doing Atkins? I too was a carb/sugar junkie. I would think nothing of whipping up some potatoes late at night as a snack. Followed by something sweet afterwards.

I started Atkins 4 weeks ago and have cut the obvious carbs/sugars out. And after the 4th day.... amazingly, I don't crave them. I don't know how that's possible since I lived on the stuff, but I'm ok with it. Smile Well, yesterday I was at the grocery store and smelled FRESH bread, OMG that smelled devine!

I too found out I wasn't eating enough calories. If you're doing Atkins, you can add some butter to your veggies or olive oil. That helps and it's like a treat!

Now that it's summer I do a ton of grilling - meat and veggies. And every night I have my staple item - sugar free jello. It actuallly is satisfying.

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Posted: 09 Jul 2010, 18:01
I can sympathize with you. I used to live off sugar and carbs, lol. Breads, cakes, pastries, and caramel frappucinos were my staple before I realized that I need to get my butt on exercise and good food. It was really hard for me to create a habit on eating "good food" and stop eating "bad food," but after 2 months of intense discipline I rarely eat candies now. The best bit of it is, being healthy got rid of my acne and here I am. Smile

When I crave for sweets, I usually brush my teeth. Yes, I brush my teeth - simply because of the taste of the mint toothpaste. Try doing that Smile

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Posted: 09 Jul 2010, 18:15
Martinigirl: No I'm not on the Atkins but holy bolognie all I hear are Carbs are bad, fat is bad, sugar is bad, cholesterol is bad, etc. My buddy is on this carb thing where she's omitting carbs period. I can't do that I would positively croak. Bad enough to give up the sugary sweets.
I just don't want to "think" I'm eating healthy when in reality I'm sabotaging myself without effort.

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Posted: 09 Jul 2010, 18:21
basic equation....burn more calories then you can still have everything you want as long as you are true to the calories and portions...this is why weight watchers really is just another system of counting will lose weight if you just allot the things you love into your calorie wont have to cut everything but you will have to cut down..

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Posted: 09 Jul 2010, 18:22
I love your signature line! That's awesome.

You can see by these posts that there is a WIDE variety of how people eat.

Your best chance for success is to find what works for you. (ie. if I ate like an00bis, I'd have huge cravings because my body doesn't like whey and processed foods. Nothing wrong with it, I just can't eat that way.)

So give yourself some time to explore, and get off the sugar high. It'll feel bad for about a week. Then you'll begin to feel amazing.

There's a book called, "UltraSimple Diet" by Hyman md, that lasts for a week and helps with detoxing from sugar, caffeine.

When you stop eating that way, your body won't want it anymore.

This is a great site to measure your progress, and plan out what you're doing. You'll be able to see what's working for you.

Good luck!
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Posted: 09 Jul 2010, 18:23
TaniaMarie wrote:
Martinigirl: No I'm not on the Atkins but holy bolognie all I hear are Carbs are bad, fat is bad, sugar is bad, cholesterol is bad, etc. My buddy is on this carb thing where she's omitting carbs period. I can't do that I would positively croak. Bad enough to give up the sugary sweets.
I just don't want to "think" I'm eating healthy when in reality I'm sabotaging myself without effort.

You're fine. No matter what you do, some plan is going to tell you it's wrong. You definitely do NOT have to eliminate an entire macronutrient to lose weight. Pay attention to calories #1. Once you get that under control, you can start messing around with it. Tricks: protein will make you feel fuller longer. Not all carbohydrates are the same. Whole grains and vegetables are very good for you. Sugar and white rice, not so much. Not all fats are the same either. Avocados are full of healthy fat. French fries are (usually) full of unhealthy fat.

It's really complicated if you think too hard about it. I believe that one step at a time is the way to go. Get the calories reigned in and then start thinking about WHAT you're eating.

Every person is different, but barring any specific medical condition, if you eat less calories than you burn by living and exercise, you will lose weight regardless of what you eat.
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Posted: 09 Jul 2010, 18:54
Eating complex carbs (oatmeal, whole wheat bread, brown rice, etc) is not harmful to a diet at all. It is very filling, and the fiber in it is important too. I read a book by Dr. Oz called You on a Diet. It doesn't really push a specific diet, but it taught me so much about good carbs/bad carbs, good fat/bad fat, and about how the human body works. It was very educational!

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Posted: 09 Jul 2010, 23:04
I don't think there is any diet that will work for everyone, because we are all different. Your best bet is to keep up your food diary carefully. After time, you will figure out what works for you - how many carbs, protein, fats give you the optimum weight loss. Definitely, eat some breakfast (not just coffee), and try to avoid white flour and sugar. If you avoid these for awhile, you will find they will not appeal to you so much.

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Posted: 10 Jul 2010, 07:07
WOW Love all the advice. Thank you all so much. I'm going to keep my food diary as close as I can. Then I can see where I am going right and where I've gone way off track. My life is so buzy that I tend to not have time for more then something I can shoot in the microwave. This is a habit I have to break also. I feed my kids healthier then I feed myself. BLAH...

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Posted: 10 Jul 2010, 08:09
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Posted: 10 Jul 2010, 08:51
Yes, lots of good advice. As Justbreathe said, there is a wide variety of how people eat.

Here's my two cents: Instead of thinking about limiting your intake, aim to INCREASE your intake of nutritious food. Try to make your own meals. The more food you're making yourself and eating in its whole form (like fruit, veggies, beans, whole grains like farro and barley and unprocessed oatmeal), the easier it will be to kick that sugar/carb habit.

I've struggled with the whole sugar/coffee rollercoaster of death Razz myself. I can go for weeks without eating junk. Then I eat one Oreo and suddenly the whole box is gone. And I'm digging for more.

For people like us with sugar issues, "dieting" on cereals and bars and snacks--no matter who makes them or what kind of diet label is on the package--isn't going to be as helpful as eating more whole foods, limiting refined sugar and processed white flour, and filling on healthy proteins like lean meat, fish, beans, unprocessed nut butters.

Of course the calorie intake is important, but--with sugar issues--in my experience it's played a backseat role. In the beginning I was eating ~1700 cals a week and losing 2-4 lbs a week, just by avoiding sugar and eating lots of veggies and beans.

I also HIGHLY recommend a book called Potatoes Not Prozac. It's a goofy name, but a GREAT book. I got mine for $3 used on Amazon. So so so helpful for people who are really fueling themselves with sugar/processed carbs.

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Posted: 10 Jul 2010, 10:18
Carbohydrates: Your Diet's Fuel

Many fad diets give carbohydrates a bad rap, leading you to believe that they're the cause of unwanted weight gain. But carbs are an essential part of a healthy diet.
By Diana Rodriguez - Medically reviewed by Lindsey Marcellin, MD, MPH

Before you feast on chicken and boycott carbs, take a closer look at the U.S. Food Pyramid. Carbohydrates are highlighted as an important part of a healthy diet, and not banned by any means. Your body needs a wide variety of foods to function and stay healthy.

"Carbohydrate is one of the macronutrients that we need, primarily for energy," says Sandra Meyerowitz, MPH, RD, a nutritionist, online nutrition coach, and owner of Nutrition Works in Louisville, Ky. While fats and protein are also necessary for energy, they're more of a long-term fuel source, while carbohydrates fulfill the body's most immediate energy needs. "It's your body's first source of energy — that's what it likes to use," adds Meyerowitz. Why does the body prefer carbs? Specifically because they're easier and faster to break down and use than proteins or fats, she explains. So don't deny your body what it needs to keep up with your active lifestyle.

What Are the Types of Carbohydrates?

There are two types of carbohydrates: simple and complex. Complex carbohydrates, which should make up most of your carbohydrate intake, require more work and take longer for your body to break down.

"It's a slower process," says Meyerowitz. But that’s a good thing — while simple carbohydrates are broken down more quickly, they don't do much for your body. Because complex carbohydrates are broken down slowly, they give your bloodstream a more consistent level of energy, so you avoid the "highs and lows" that simple carbohydrates can give you, explains Meyerowitz.

What's the Best Source of Carbs?

You need to get between 50 and 60 percent of your daily calories from carbohydrates, according to Meyerowitz. Most should be whole grains and other complex carbohydrates, but the fiber in fruits and vegetables make them a good simple carbohydrate choice. If you don't get enough carbohydrates, you run the risk of depriving your body of the calories and nutrients it needs, or of replacing healthy carbs with unhealthy fats.

To get the carbs you need, fill your plate with the best carbohydrate sources for your body:

Whole grains like barley, bulgur, buckwheat, quinoa, and oats Whole-wheat and other whole-grain breads Brown rice Whole-wheat pasta Fruits and vegetables Beans, lentils, and dried peas Whole-grain cereals like 100 percent bran This doesn't mean that you're never allowed to have a sweet treat for dessert, a bowl of white rice, or a baked potato. It just means that those should be the exceptions instead of everyday carbohydrate selections.

At the same time, you should also avoid loading up on complex carbohydrates or making them your primary source of calories. A diet too rich in even complex carbohydrates — or in any food — packs more calories into your body, which eventually leads to weight gain.

Complex carbohydrates are good for you, so don't look at a bowl of hearty whole-wheat pasta or brown rice as a bad thing or a big diet no-no. Instead, consider it a source of healthy fuel that your body needs to maintain consistent energy
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Posted: 10 Jul 2010, 11:06
Obviously everyone is different, but I am a big believer in eating breakfast. I'm never hungry in the morning. If I skip breakfast, I'm usually not hungry at lunch. I used to skip breakfast/lunch and then gorge at dinner and then it was off to the races at night with constant snacking.

Now that I almost always eat breakfast - somewhat forced - I am always hungry at lunch time. I haven't "binged" since I started doing this.

I also found that eating something high in sugar sets up a craving for more sugar. I try to avoid sugary drinks and snacks now for this reason. It's just not worth it.

As far as carbs, just because the gub'ment food pyramid says we should eat mostly carbs, I don't buy it. Anything the gob'ment says is automatically suspect in my opinion. Is it a coincidence that the "low fat" craze and the increase in obesity started at about the same time?

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