Losing Weight & Not Tryng To!

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dablues

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Posted: 04 May 2016, 04:45
I upped my calories but am still losing weight. My last blood work showed low protein and low globulin. So don't know if something is wrong or not. Doctor didn't say anything about blood work but asked if I was deliberately trying to lose weight. At that time I told him I was but I'm not now and still dropping weight.

I upped my calories to 1600 a day, and eat a protein bar every day. Any suggetions? I don't go back to my doctor until the 24th of May. I'm too skinny now and don't have muscle mass.
Diablo360x

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Posted: 04 May 2016, 05:09
I'm seeing that your average more than a 2000 calorie burn. If you want to maintain, eat as much as you burn.
Consume whatever foods you prefer, whenever you prefer to consume them, while ensuring nutrient sufficiency and meeting caloric goals.
rabbitjb

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Posted: 04 May 2016, 08:26
In order to not lose weight you need to keep upping your calories until over 6 - 8 weeks your weight stabilises and doesn't move

do it by 100 - 150 calories per day for a couple of weeks - then again then again until you start to put on weight (rolling 6 weeks) then cut back

you always need to give it a week or two to allow for basic scale weight flucations

if your diary is accurate you are eating at a defecit level
rabbitjb

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Posted: 04 May 2016, 08:29
iluvmypets wrote:
See another doctor and then a 3rd. It could possibly be a kidney issue or some bone marrow condition. Do you drink, even a little? Stop that until things are worked out. So too with cigarettes. Cut back dramatically on sugars and carbs - which can effect the liver and how it works with proteins as well.

You can consume a "normal" rate of calories, don't need to increase, especially bad calories. Weight training (resistance) will give you strength to lift more heavier weights - after a while with lifting heavy weights, you will gain muscle mass and the numbers on the scale can increase.


Wut? - her diary shows consistent defecits - why does she need to worry about medical conditions? see horses not zebras

Nothing wrong with drinking in moderation, nothing wrong with sugars and carbs - they can be highly satisfying and help her to get to her calorie goals - she is eating too few

There is no such thing as 'bad calories', there's not even any such thing as 'bad foods' - your diet (eg everything you eat) can be good or bad though .. a diet that is too low in calories for somebody who needs to maintain weight is clearly 'bad'

I agree with your progressive resistance work comment though... so there's that Laughing
Diablo360x

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Posted: 04 May 2016, 08:50
What rabbit said. Bad calories....:/
Consume whatever foods you prefer, whenever you prefer to consume them, while ensuring nutrient sufficiency and meeting caloric goals.
Diablo360x

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Posted: 04 May 2016, 08:52
iluvpets, go love on your pets and leave the advice giving to people that know about nutrition.
Consume whatever foods you prefer, whenever you prefer to consume them, while ensuring nutrient sufficiency and meeting caloric goals.
rabbitjb

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Posted: 04 May 2016, 09:59
There is nothing serious or odd happening when one is losing weight by eating at a defecit

That's normal

Doctor unconcerned

You know, I presume, that nutritional deficiencies that result from not getting sufficient protein through your diet may be another cause for low protein blood levels.

OP is still not eating sufficient protein in my book

She should aim for 100g per day minimum (based on 0.8g per lb desired bodyweight)

And she should absolutely start a progressive resistance programme ..even just bodyweight

And she should absolutely eat more calories than she is

And see her doctor on 24th as planned and raise any and all concerns
rabbitjb

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Posted: 04 May 2016, 10:05
iluvmypets wrote:
Alcohol does immediate damage to the body.The instant that clear cut toxin passes your lips, cell damage begins to occur. And then it continues on through the digestive track and so much cell damage is happening, then it reaches the liver (and since some globulin is produced in the liver this could be an issue).

See 2 more doctors.

If you just eat more to gain weight with out exercise, you will develop a gut, double chin, big thighs and hind end. If you just ate the same amount of good calories, meaning good whole foods etc. and did resistance weight training you will gain muscle mass and gain weight (a pound of muscle occupies less space than a pound of fat).


Alcohol in moderate amounts also has significant benefits

http://www.bmj.com/content/312/7033/731.short for reduced risk of heart disease

http://jama.jamanetwork.com/article.aspx?articleid=195880 Light or moderate consumption for reduced risk of ischemic stroke (heavy use => increased risk of course)

Toxicity is and always will be relative to dosage
dablues

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Posted: 04 May 2016, 18:46
iluvmypets wrote:
See another doctor and then a 3rd. It could possibly be a kidney issue or some bone marrow condition. Do you drink, even a little? Stop that until things are worked out. So too with cigarettes. Cut back dramatically on sugars and carbs - which can effect the liver and how it works with proteins as well.

You can consume a "normal" rate of calories, don't need to increase, especially bad calories. Weight training (resistance) will give you strength to lift more heavier weights - after a while with lifting heavy weights, you will gain muscle mass and the numbers on the scale can increase.
dablues

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Posted: 04 May 2016, 18:53
I don't drink. Used to years ago. The doctor I have now is a new one, as my old one had to stop his private practice. I'll up my calories and see what happens. Thanks for replying. I don't use regular sugar as my husband is diabetic. I don't eat sweets hardly at all. Cut back coffee to two cups a day, and went from lactaid whole milk to unsweetened almond milk, as the doctor told me not to drink milk. I was 173 last August when I joined the Y, went 6 days a week, 2 hrs. a day. When I hit my goal, and kept losing weight, cut back to 5 days a week and 1 hr. a day. I never was a big eater but never weighed my food until I started to go to the Y! But, I also wasn't exercising and gained a lot of weight. This is so frustrating. I was always thin until I started gaining when thyroid went bad, now I'm too skinny for my age and look awful since I hav no muscle mass now at all.
dablues

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Posted: 04 May 2016, 18:54
Diablo360x wrote:
I'm seeing that your average more than a 2000 calorie burn. If you want to maintain, eat as much as you burn.
dablues

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Posted: 04 May 2016, 19:01
Thanks for your input. Am going to up the calories. I do enjoy going to the Y every day as I am retired. I don't drink or smoke. Gave up smoking 5 years ago and only occasionally have a drink. I don't like overly sweet items, and don't have dessert hardly at all. Once in a while. I bake my own bread but have one piece a day and pasta a small amount. I eat the amount listed for a serving. I hope I can turn this around and hope nothing is wrong with me. My new doctor, I don't know why he didn't do more blood work when he saw my protein and globulin was down, plus he lowered my thyroid meds which didn't show that it was high. Appreciate all responses. Oh, I also make my own protein bars, but they don't seem to be doing anything, so bought some too.
Diablo360x

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Posted: 04 May 2016, 19:03
What exactly do you think protein bars will do? They are just another source of calories. The protein will help with retaining muscle in a deficit or gaining some in a surplus, they are not special in any other way.
Consume whatever foods you prefer, whenever you prefer to consume them, while ensuring nutrient sufficiency and meeting caloric goals.
PokeyJack

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Posted: 04 May 2016, 20:10
Has anyone looked at your adrenal function? I ask because my own thyroid issues (underweight) stemmed from poor adrenal performance. Unfortunately, the way I found out was, after a short time on thyroid hormone replacement, I suffered adrenal failure -- where my adrenals basically exploded, with extreme back pain and near-constant vomiting -- which was traced back to supporting the thyroid without also supporting the adrenal glands. Definitely seek the advice of a different endocrinologist!
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rabbitjb

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Posted: 05 May 2016, 02:48
OP - just eat more calories - you are undereating hence you are losing weight

It isn't complicated

Carianne

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Posted: 05 May 2016, 04:14
I married a doctor so I can tell you, his first advice would be...see another doctor or nutritionist because if your doctor is not concerned about unwanted weight loss, he should be. Every blood test is not a catch all. I had a problem last year in fact that required about 15 different types of blood tests in order to find what was happening. If increasing caloric intake, and I assume healthy calories so I won't say you're not trying, then other tests should be run. The average woman should consume around 2000 calories per day but this is not a one size fits all number. If I personally at 2000 a day, I'd be as big as a house. Everyone has different metabolic rates and perhaps it is something very simple and your doctor has not run the right blood work.

As someone who has a chronic medical condition, I've learned that you really have to be assertive with the medical professionals and self-advocate when you are concerned about a problem.

I hope that you get some answers soon. And I do agree with those who've said here that nobody knows it all and what works for one person doesn't work for another.

Take care!
catlover630

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Posted: 05 May 2016, 04:28
dablues wrote:
I upped my calories but am still losing weight. My last blood work showed low protein and low globulin. So don't know if something is wrong or not. Doctor didn't say anything about blood work but asked if I was deliberately trying to lose weight. At that time I told him I was but I'm not now and still dropping weight.

I upped my calories to 1600 a day, and eat a protein bar every day. Any suggetions? I don't go back to my doctor until the 24th of May. I'm too skinny now and don't have muscle mass.


How tall are you? 1600 is NOT enough to make you even maintain your 120 pounds with that exercise you are doing, you are expending more calories than you are taking in. If you are not tired and fatigued then that is probably your problem, it's not a sickness.
rabbitjb

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Posted: 05 May 2016, 05:09
OP sees doctor
Doctor asks are you purposefully losing weight?
OP says yes
Doctor unconcerned at blood results because OP is eating at defecit
OP has another doctor's appointment on 24th May
OP stops dieting - but doesn't eat enough calories to hit maintenance
OP concerned they are still losing weight
Advised to eat more, and specifically more protein, until hit maintenance
Advised to keep doctors appointment

I see no issues beyond the OP undereating
Doctor can identify any issues if the OP is eating sufficient calories

All the well-meaning minutiae and ridiculous assertions in this thread amount to merely posturing and are unhelpfully pushing the OP into not addressing the primary issue of weight loss - before she sees the doctor next - which is to EAT ENOUGH BLOODY FOOD Neutral

until that bit is sorted weight loss is not a significant diagnostic symptom to be concerned about
Diablo360x

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Posted: 05 May 2016, 05:31
I love rabbit. There, I said it.
Consume whatever foods you prefer, whenever you prefer to consume them, while ensuring nutrient sufficiency and meeting caloric goals.
pattychaney

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Posted: 05 May 2016, 05:45
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