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lovelilates

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Posted: 08 Jan 2014, 13:42
okaaaaay i will try my best to avoid those (i already do most of the time).

well, i have to say i wasn't expecting so much people to care. I thought that no one would answer to me. It's nice to feel understood Smile It is not the first time that I've tried to stop caring about everything I eat but i have failed every time. I hope this time will be the good one ! thanks a lot again x
wholefoodnut

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Posted: 08 Jan 2014, 13:43
Highly processed grains such as white flour and rice hAve been stripped of the nutrient goodness of the grain and due to that have been turned into a simple carb. Whole grains, brown and red rice, legumes ,vegetables and fruits are considered complex carbs. That generally means their nutrients are still at least mostly intact
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Jeri
lovelilates

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Posted: 08 Jan 2014, 13:45
okay, that means that 100 calories of white rice are empty calories, right ? x
reddarin

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Posted: 08 Jan 2014, 16:23
lovelilates wrote:
by higly processed carbs, do you mean the ones in white flour/rice/bread ? x


For Paleo, white rice is okay in moderation. I think Robb Wolf has said that several times on his podcast.

Hmmm. "Highly processed" is really ambiguous but I think it needs to be vague to be workable. Most of the food you have available to eat is processed to some degree. You'll want to avoid the ones that *require* a lot of processing to be eaten.

A simple packaged item with a list of 20 ingredients is usually a good example of highly processed. Do you guys have twinkies over there? That is highly processed. Pop tarts are highly processed. Most junk food is highly processed. Most whole food is not.

How about a can of beans? I don't think that is highly processed. But it is more processed than fresh beans you've cooked at home. So the home cooked fresh beans would be far better than the canned beans and the canned beans would be far better than a twinkie.

Even if you were an adult and in full control of your menu you would still have to make choices about what to eat, what is affordable and what is available. Grass fed beef is wonderful but if you have to live in your car to buy that sort of stuff you are doing it wrong. If (when) the zombie apocalypse happens and twinkies are all that is available to eat then eat the twinkie and make a better choice when the shambling masses of moaning zombies are not hot on your trail.

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Cindy 23

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Posted: 08 Jan 2014, 16:35
I eat what I want as long as I stay within my calorie range. I find I crave a variety of foods, some considered 'healthy', some not, but I don't worry about it. I certainly don't feel guilty.
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wholefoodnut

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Posted: 08 Jan 2014, 17:18
No about the rice but brown or red or wild has more nutrients. Personally i love white jasmine rice for a treat mostly i eat red which has the same nutrients as brown but it's nuttier and cooks a bit faster. Love the taste
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Glaun

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Posted: 08 Jan 2014, 22:14
IMHO.
Feeling guilty is but one way our minds help us avoid future bad behavior.
The real question is will we learn to enjoy the feeling of guilt so as to continue the bad behavior, or will we listen and follow the advice the mind is giving us?
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Posted: 09 Jan 2014, 00:17
100 calories of white rice would be good for you if you eat rice as a side dish with vegetables, meat or fish or poultry. You can have it in soup, or even as an occasional rice pudding. Getting most of your calories from rice is not good, but 100 calories is a very small portion. It is just half a cup of rice. Rice is a good source of folate and manganese that your body needs. It also has some protein. If you combine rice and beans you actually get complete protein, so it would be a healthy meal. You need to eat a variety of food, then you will be fine.
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lovelilates

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Posted: 09 Jan 2014, 14:27
wow, you are all being so helpful !

reddarin : okay ! i didn't think white rice would have any nutritional valor. is it also the case for pasta too ? anyways, no, we don't have twinkies over here but i have stopped eating that kind of stuff when i first changed of lifestyle (along with the already prepared meals and nuggets, now that I think about it i Wonder how i could ever eat those).; that's a really good surprise Smile and i'll be sure to eat twinkies if i ever come across zombies during the apocalypse (it's deffo gonna be soon)

ingria : oooh okay ! good news too, my parents like to cook white rice, and i kinda like it too. i always eat veggies at meals so this is good ! that makes me feel a bit better, tbh. thanks !

wholefoodnut : i have only ever eaten white and wild rices ! i know, it's so lame. i am definitely going to change that though, i have heard Brown rice is delicious. i didn't know red rice existed, but it sounds great. thanks Smile

Cindy 23: and do you still manage to gain muscle ? or lose weight, whatever your goal is Smile i'm genuinely curious Smile

Glaun : er, not sure whether your advice is going to help me or not, mate. Might even be a tad dangerous to listen to you in the place i'm in. but your reasoning is interesting Smile

patty129

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Posted: 09 Jan 2014, 19:55
i feel the same way i am obsessed with the scale it keeps going up and down ii have to stop weighing myself everyday and do it once a week help.
mummydee

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Posted: 10 Jan 2014, 05:44
Patty I would suggest that you type 'scales' in the search bar on the home page of the Forum and you'll get many threads that chat about the scales, why they're good/bad and lots of opinions and help.
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reddarin

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Posted: 10 Jan 2014, 11:57
lovelilates wrote:
is it also the case for pasta too ?


I'd try hard to avoid gluten and wheat which means avoiding wheat based pasta. But you have to live in the world you live in if you know what I mean.

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mummydee

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Posted: 10 Jan 2014, 12:25
Rice pasta is gluten free and my kids love it. It should be available to you in France.
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lovelilates

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Posted: 10 Jan 2014, 13:25
mummydee : i have no idea about what rice pasta is ! i looked it up but i don't think i've ever eaten it. i'll see Smile thanks !

reddarin : oooh i know what you mean Smile the paleo diet seems a bit complicated to follow in my world, but i will do my best. also, i don't eat pasta every day, so i think i'm good. Smile thanks for your helpful advice !

patty129 : personally, i am not that obsessed with the scale, in the sense that i can survive a few days without weighing myself, but if i see that i've gained weight, i'll freak out. it's quite dangerous since i'm already underweight, but ... anyways, if it can help you, my med told me that your weight changes according to the time you weigh yourself, whether you peed (or pooed) before etc. she said that a gap of 2-3 kilos froms one day to another doesn't mean much. hope that helps Smile
buttercup30

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Posted: 11 Jan 2014, 00:58
You don't need to restrict what you eat, you just need to restrict how you eat it. Cheese and milk are good for you. In fact, you should have several servings a day. Eat lean meats, such as chicken, fish, lean cuts of beef, and pork. Legumes are also a good source of protein. Veggies are also good. Keep carrots and celery washed for snacks. You can also put a smear of peanut butter on the celery. Eat lean veggies, such as green beans, broccoli, cauliflower. If it's in the produce section of the supermarket, it's fair game. As far as bread, try to eat whole grain breads and brown rice. Try to avoid refined sugar. Refined sugar has no nutritional value. That being said, it is ok to have something once or twice a week. Do not under any circumstances feel guilty about what you eat. You are you, and nobody else can do this for you. I also say leave the television off, as there's always pressure from the media to be thin. I will tell you, that just because someone is thin, doesn't mean they are healthy. It will eventually catch up with them.
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mummydee

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Posted: 11 Jan 2014, 06:56
Buttercup, you give very good advice, you seem to know what to do, you sound like a very caring and compassionate person but.....Can I be blunt and ask "why don't you take your own advice?" ......
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lovelilates

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Posted: 12 Jan 2014, 05:11
thanks buttercup ! Smile x



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