Confusion on Soda

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Paperbacksta...

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Posted: 12 Sep 2019, 18:50
I had the unusual draw my entire life to "comfort drinking" instead of "comfort eating." It's a long story and there's all this weird psychology in there from my childhood, but I drank a steady supply of soda and pepsi daily through my childhood, teens, and twenties before finally figuring out how fattening it was and why I was so overweight.

In my 30's I have tried cutting back and never was not able to succeed because of the extreme addiction. Suddenly three weeks ago, for the first time in my life, I finally do not crave it and was able to cut it out for the first time in 30 years. It has not even felt like much of a struggle, I guess I am psychologically ready FINALLY to let go.

I tried dieting for a few weeks three years ago and back then, knowing I couldn't give up the soda yet, limited myself to a large fountain coke once a day for my work lunch break, sometimes cheating at night and not much better on the weekend. I did not cut out bread but limited it, so my carb intake was still not healthy. I was able to lose 2 lbs the first week, 3 lbs the second, and 2 lbs the third even with the large amount of soda a day but cutting back. 7 lbs in three weeks. Everyone was telling me and always says that they know someone who cut out soda completely and they would drop a lot of weight at first.

I looked up med and nutrition sites and they said most people can lose 5-10 lbs cutting out carbs the first week, then it will dramatically slow down.

Here I am now on my third week and not really losing weight. I have cut out soda for the first time in my life and have only ate bread perhaps once a week. I eat a small piece of fruit perhaps once every third day (Today I had one slice of pineapple).

I have increased my protein and am eating hard boiled eggs (1-2 a day) as snacks instead of unhealthy. I Have been eating salads with chicken for protein, and oatmeal with a little flax seed in the morning for some fiber and filling benefit.

I have been trying to keep it to 1200 calories a day in food intake, sometimes have gone a bit over (had a slip of unhealthy dinner tonight when I overdid it with too little calories today and a huge craving of red meat that suddenly hit me).


I am not seeking to do a complete carb omission, but am keeping my carb intake much lower than before (like through the tbs of cream and 1 pineapple slice today) - besides my first slip of the diet this week being tonight, argh - and am trying to do a lifestyle change instead of a diet that I will get off.

My question is, why could I lose weight when I was still drinking a large coke a day but cutting out the rest, still eating more fast food and not limiting bread --- but now that I've only had one small cheeseburger in three weeks, no bread, and cut out the coke almost completely (did indulge once or twice), no weight is coming off during this same timespan? It is not matching what nutrition advice and med sites are saying should be happening.



binkytexas

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Posted: 13 Sep 2019, 20:45
I understand comfort drinking. Mine is coffee (decaf or regular) with cream. Sitting down and actually calculating how much fat and calories were in the cream helped me to see where so many of my daily calories were going. Next, I try to make myself have a substitution for my regular comfort drink. I'm trying hot tea, hot water with lemon, and just plain water.
My suggestion for you? Have you tried SodaStream? I used to drink tons of carbonated water, and SodaStream really helped. Maybe you could transition from soda flavors to fruit juice to fruit flavors. You still get that full feeling of the carbonation. I'm not using mine much right now, but I go through spurts where I want that fizzy filling feeling. Hope this helps.
Paperbacksta...

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Posted: 14 Sep 2019, 12:26
binkytexas wrote:
I understand comfort drinking. Mine is coffee (decaf or regular) with cream. Sitting down and actually calculating how much fat and calories were in the cream helped me to see where so many of my daily calories were going. Next, I try to make myself have a substitution for my regular comfort drink. I'm trying hot tea, hot water with lemon, and just plain water.
My suggestion for you? Have you tried SodaStream? I used to drink tons of carbonated water, and SodaStream really helped. Maybe you could transition from soda flavors to fruit juice to fruit flavors. You still get that full feeling of the carbonation. I'm not using mine much right now, but I go through spurts where I want that fizzy filling feeling. Hope this helps.


Glad someone else understands comfort drinking Smile

I have been okay without the soda surprisingly. I have seen the sodastreams and they do look interesting, but I don't have much extra in terms of money right now. I have been drinking water flavored with sugar-free packets (2 per pitcher) with a slice of lemon when I am not drinking my coffee, and am really enjoying that too.

I also love hot tea when the mood hits - what a treat =)
immort777

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Posted: 16 Sep 2019, 04:49
If you're not losing and you're healthy otherwise, it means you're still eating/drinking more calories than you think. Are you counting calories correctly?
Good luck!
Paperbacksta...

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Posted: 16 Sep 2019, 07:21
immort777 wrote:
If you're not losing and you're healthy otherwise, it means you're still eating/drinking more calories than you think. Are you counting calories correctly?
Good luck!


It looks like some of the weight loss has started kicking in, so I'm feeling relieved on that. I guess my body had a "delay" or something.
immort777

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Posted: 17 Sep 2019, 04:44
Good to hear! keep at it and good luck!
binkytexas

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Posted: 17 Sep 2019, 06:49
Paper, glad the weight loss kicked in!!!
I got my SodaStream for Christmas one year. I used to spend a lot of money on carbonated water drinks and the SodaStream was actually cheaper. You can buy the pricey flavorings to add. but I've tried various juices, lemon, and lime. I already like carbonated water and I'm not a Coke drinker, so I don't exactly have the same craving as you.

Have you tried Crystal Lite, Milo, or Wylers? They have low calorie powders you can add to a pitcher of water (or individual serving). My diabetic roommate drinks them daily.

Good luck on your journey. I'm still over here struggling with cream in my coffee. I'm logging in under my calorie count, so I can afford it now. Probablh going to have to tweak that later! Hot tea in the evenings is already a love of mine, but I feel strange having it in the morning.
Paperbacksta...

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Posted: 17 Sep 2019, 13:10
I do like the Crystal Lite flavor packets. I've been adding two of the Strawberry Crush sugar-free to a large pitcher - to me they're way too sweet to do a packet per cup like they recommend =)

I am still indulging on the coffee but I have to have some things keeping me sane lol. So far the habits are getting a little easier, I have started my fourth week. Still wish I had lost a little more than 6 but it's not a bad start at all either, and I didn't start exercising until last week.

I had a very heavy lunch due to a special outing today, so I'm full and will try to mainly hide from more calories the rest of the day. Think hiding under a rock will work? Smile
Lucky Roja

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Posted: 22 Sep 2019, 11:32
It's an evolutionary reality that your body gets alarmed when there is a big, sustained drop in calories. If you are sedentary, your metabolism slows down to preserve energy. Two things might help - one is getting more exercise. I'm older and not a gym rat, so my exercise is simply walking. It took time to get up from a miserable half hour to a much less miserable hour-and-a-half a couple times a week, but it makes a huge difference in my weight loss. The other is what is called zig-zag dieting. Low cals several days in a row and then a more weight maintaining level for a day so your body calorie deficit alarm isn't going off. I'm not saying drink soda on the zag day, but give yourself a little slack to eat a sandwich or a fruit cup.
Paperbacksta...

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Posted: 26 Sep 2019, 20:00
Lucky Roja wrote:
It's an evolutionary reality that your body gets alarmed when there is a big, sustained drop in calories. If you are sedentary, your metabolism slows down to preserve energy. Two things might help - one is getting more exercise. I'm older and not a gym rat, so my exercise is simply walking. It took time to get up from a miserable half hour to a much less miserable hour-and-a-half a couple times a week, but it makes a huge difference in my weight loss. The other is what is called zig-zag dieting. Low cals several days in a row and then a more weight maintaining level for a day so your body calorie deficit alarm isn't going off. I'm not saying drink soda on the zag day, but give yourself a little slack to eat a sandwich or a fruit cup.


Thanks, I think this must be what happened. I didn't lose any weight the first two weeks cutting out soda completely (and I drank quite a bit of it before) or the junk food. I was eating 1200-1300 calories a day of just healthy stuff. Until I started adding in exercise the third week, I did not seem to lose any weight beyond one pound, so I must have needed that to kickstart it. Since dropping the 2 liter of soda a day, that was an 800 calorie drop, and then eating healthy instead of what I was usually eating, it was a calorie difference of at least 1500 a day. The only explanation I can conclude with changing to 1200 versus almost 3000 calories and no weight loss is what you are saying with the body being in a freak out mode at first.



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