HCB's Journal, 25 September 2016

Difficult to comprehend from someone who is supposedly so educated.  

I think you have taken the better roll for sure! 

I know, Kathy! And he claimed I was the one "following" him.  

I think in his weird way, he is complimenting you. Ive had private civil conversations with him through FS and i think he believes that he's shouting "the world is round". And since he isnt easily able to apologize, he use the word apology and gave you a compliment in an odd way. 1) He recognizes your intelect and thinks you have a degree un psychology. (I don't know what you do) 2) he says that you get it. He is so concerned with people making a commitment to health. Unfortunately he only believes in his way. I know he's unique and has said awful things on FS that i don't support. But i truly think that particular email wasn't meant a a jab or threat.  

I have a lot of time on my hands so I gave this some thought and actually feel sorry for this person. Either he gets enjoyment from insulting and annoying people or there is some real mental illness going on. Either way this can't be a person who has a happy and fulfilling life. But since we are not in a position to help this person ignoring is the only thing you can do.  

But HCB you know i try to be diplomatic. You know what he's said or not said to you. What bothers me is that everyone going buddies only leaves a lot of newbies tslking to each other. If this had happened 6 months earlier i would never have met you or followed your inspirational/ motivational journal posts. So do what you feel you need to do. 

I think Barb misread what he said. In saying he thinks HCB is "the last one to get it" he's putting her at the end of the line of people who "get it"..whatever it is. Yes, it's harassing and insulting, and he's baiting you, HCB. Ignore and delete. He's ignoring me for the time being. LOL 

This is a mentally ill person, and I think you are managing the matter well. Be calm and cautious -- because crazy people are, well, crazy. And it worries me.I think it rather interesting that he took only one pass at me and then left me alone. It leaves me wondering: Do you think he is targeting only LCHF people? 

He's definitely not apologizing for his actions but i think there are some better intentions in there. 

Barb you are a kind-hearted soul, guided by your faith to believe in man's better nature... but honestly, I see no good intentions here. Rather, I see a very unhappy person, whose unhappiness spills out all over others. But while I am sorry for anyone who is that unhappy, I can't justify the behavior. It needs to stop.  

KES, im just saying that it can be taken more than one way. He took a stab at me once, i took it off the boards and difused the bomb. I swear he is exactly like my ex. What i am saying then, is it may be his mindset trying to apologize. I didnt see him arguing (not full on ollie) today. I saw him pleading tgat healtg and life does have a time limit. Our private emails gave me this urgent sense. I tookit as no one else but you HCB (already at goal) gets the discipline and weight loss in general. Do i think he needs help? Yes. But i agree that to continually ignore might be our only option. He's been doing this for a while. Ignoring for a week is all it will take? Definitely not.  

Maybe you're right, Barb. But having had plenty of up-close-and-personal experience with narcissistic sociopaths, anything that looks like an apology is really anything BUT an apology. Who assigned him to be "lord and savor" to the 'fatties' of the world, who refuses to accept any point of view but his own narrow one? What gives him the right to demean, harass, and denigrate certain people because he "knows better"? And why, from what I saw today, did he go "buddies only" on here? Just questions I have from the core of what I know... 

Barb, I agree with your concern that keeping journals private can affect the community as a whole by limiting the exchange of experiences and ideas. He prefers that LCHFers keep their journals private to decrease the spread òf what he considers a dangerous philosophy. So, maybe that is the point -- chase us all into the caves LOL! 

@bdmgoggins - yes, one week ignoring him will not do it! And, he is NOT "apologizing" to me! He is insulting me! Suggesting because I am over 60 years old, and a psychologist (which I am) - I should not be so stupid as to "be the last person to get it" - it is totally sarcastic. There is a long history of him abusing me.  

HM thank you. After our email exchange, i know he needs help, but his is a stubbornness that has been bred in him and can only be diffused calmly. If you give him argument to chew on it just feeds the beast. He loves the attention. The more comments made, the more it feeds him. Ignoring everything is the only way to go. That us unti FS can IP ban. HCB report what you need to but please stay buddies only so my inbox doesn't get lit up! Lol. Someone's ears have got to be burning.  

And meantime, I'll keep a look out for newbies who can benefit from HCB's wise counsel. 

Ok HCB. I just read it differently. I know you two have your own argument history. I was just giving an outsiders opinion. Im glad we all have a psychologist on here. ;-) you're probably getting the brunt if it though because you are a psychologist. He obviously needs or had tried to get help by the way he tries to call it a Shrinks degree. He is trying to make himself feel better by lowering your status. You pegged him and told him something everyone else in his life had told him. He's fighting your percieved authority. Not you personally. Yes he fears LCHF, but Ive been all over the board and the worst jab I got was folowing his beloved CICO. I agree he need to not harass people we all need to ignore until IP can be banned. Ignore in the meantime....everything.  

As you might see from NY_shelly's journal post, ollie is trying to bait me. He knows nothing about me, other than my picture and previous journal posts. He is a small, nasty, little man.When insults don't call me out, he tries an insincere 'apology' to try to lure me into dialog. A big ole bag of NOPE on that one! Barb. I appreciate your compassion, but the only thing that works with people like him is ignore and delete. 

Kes, i read it too and I've never said i agree with his tactics or that he shouldn't be removed. It took everything i could muster not to respond. I said at the end of my crazy long posts. Ignore! Deleting can't be done in someone else's journal. But if you have the shot, take it.  

So - in case you didn't know, it is possible to send a person a Private Message, and then go back and click "delete" from your own Outbox and the message will be retracted from the recipient's account - like it was never sent... apparently Ollie did just that becuase his message is no linger in my Inbox. Too bad for him, because I immediately sent it to FS Tech Support and have a copy.