Group Forum: Induction Phase Meal & Snack Ideas - Do's & Dont's - General Questions or Concerns

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jaime30024

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Posted: 27 Dec 2012, 15:17
Thanks Christie!
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JessieGirl88

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Posted: 30 Dec 2012, 17:41
Good to know!! I always eat sugar free candy and I didn't even think about it stalling me.. but as I said in an earlier post, I've been low carbing for four months with no signifigant weight loss.. whereas four years ago I lost 30 lbs no problem! and I was losing at almost a pound a day. I will be giving up the sugar free candy starting now to see if that makes a difference.. thank you!!
atriel2

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Posted: 30 Dec 2012, 17:59
JessieGirl88 - I read somewhere that a way to tell if you're metabolizing the sugar alcohols in sugar free candy is like this: If sugarfree candy only gives you gas then you are most probably metabolizing the sugar alcohols and they have a significantly higher carb impact for you. If they cause a laxative effect you are not metabolizing the sugar alcohols and the carb impact is lower.
- Toni


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Mokakiss

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Posted: 30 Dec 2012, 19:32
That is a great rule of thumb. I can use that for almost anything with sugar alcohols. Thanks Tony!
BBD5

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Posted: 30 Dec 2012, 20:52
Hi Toni! As Mokakiss said that is a great rule of thumb!! I purchased my 1st 2 packs of sugar free candy yesterday Russel Stover sugar free pecan delights and Russel Stover Toffee Squares..Ladies I thought I was in heaven.. It surely did help me with those treat cravings I have been having the past few weeks..

Anywho.. Its almost like your post came right on time.. When I woke this morning.. (sorry for those who have a light stomach, don't mean to offend) I had the latter affect from the sugar alcohols - laxative affect indeed.. As soon as I woke - ohhh goodness! So Toni if I am having the laxative effect and I am understanding your explanations this a good thing as far as the carb impact?? I sure do hope so.. If not no more candy for me.. Sad
atriel2

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Posted: 30 Dec 2012, 20:57
Believe it or not, that's a good thing. I use them to kind of help when I'm backed up or during TOM. But just because some sugar free candy does do that, doesn't mean that all will. Each company uses a different blend of sugar alcohols. Some may work for you, some may not.
Most importantly, pay attention to your body, if you stall, cut them out and see if the weight loss starts again.
- Toni


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BBD5

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Posted: 30 Dec 2012, 22:42
Ok.. Thanks Toni.. that is good news.. I was especially talking about the part when you were saying it had an impact on the carb/metabolism etc etc.. lol lol..

So I will not eat these candies all the time but I had been craving something sweet tremendously the last couple of weeks.. thought I had cured it on Christmas with a couple bites of pecan pie..NOT!!

The Atkins bars didn't even make me go like this.. We have discussed this issue before - but I won't be having the rest of those Atkins bars for a while.. I mean they have to be a last resort..
jaime30024

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Posted: 30 Dec 2012, 22:46
Like Toni I use the sugar free chocolates to help me especially when TOM is here
Start weight 245#
1st goal: 220# - met 04/07/11
2nd goal: 210# - met 05/21/2011
Start over: 221# 11/08/11
Start over: 233.2# 10/2012
Start over goal met: 220# 11/14/2012
Mini goal to be in 212's by Dec - met 12/31/2012
Mini goal: 207's by end of Jan- met 01/31/2013
Mini goal: 197's by end of Feb - met 02/27/2013
re-start grrr Mini goal: 197's by 09/19/2013
I have to restart again as I slipped. I am leaving the above so I can keep track. It happens and I have to keep learning.
BBD5

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Posted: 31 Dec 2012, 00:32
TOM is coming by end of this week! So this is probably why having these strong cravings as well... Sad
jsfantome

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Posted: 01 Jan 2013, 06:29
Hey Hey - For anyone using the Keto Stix - here's a bit of useful info. (this info is posted in other places here, but I'll be darned if I can find it now!)

1. Start out by checking the Expiration Date on the container of stix you are using. These need to be used w/in 6 mo's of when you open them - or by the expiration - which ever comes first. (they can be a bit pricey...and they are not 'necessary' - but can be a useful tool, if you want.)

2. No matter what color you register - you are in ketosis (beyond 'negative'. the bottle has a little color chart for you to line up your stick w/.) Don't get hung up on %'s or my purple is more purple than your purple, etc... it doesn't matter.

3. IF YOU TEST all the way at the darkest purple... you are likely overeating in the protein category. Back off - add more veggies for a few days - drink lots of water every day - and then it should come back down. IF NOT - then you should talk to your doctor (as this can be taxing on your liver and kidneys.)

4. The more faithfully you drink water each and every day... the more it will impact the overall color/smell etc of your urine. This too will usually mean your sticks might register 'trace' or the lightest end of the stick... that's ok... any 'register' of color past negative...means you are IN Ketosis.

5. Once you open the bottle, be very careful to quickly remove strip, and replace the cap. The exposure to air - for a long time (like forgetting to put the cap back on the bottle) will totally ruin your strips.

6. Be careful your hands are not moist or wet. (like out of the shower) This will ruin your strips.

7. Be careful not to touch the end of the test strip...this could impact your reading.

8. OK - so... Day 1 - Test 4 times this day. Something like 7am, 11am, 3pm and 7 pm. You are looking to see which of those 4 times gives you a good reading. (for most it could be first thing in the morning. - but not all.) And your body is in Ketosis and spilling ketones into your urine - hopefully all day long... so for some, it could be afternoons.

9. Once you figure out what is a good 'time of day' for you... Use that time each day to be your 'measure'.


While I can see how 'knowing' you are in ketosis can just be the 'motivation' you need to keep on going... all this test strip does is frustrate people. Unfortunately - our bodies are so unique... and some get purple...and no weight loss. Others register a trace...and 2-3 lbs a week loss!!! AAAAGGGHHHH!

Stick to your plan and don't focus on the small stuff like this. That's my best advice. But if you want to... at least now you know some of the pitfalls. Much Love.
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lbsgoner

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Posted: 01 Jan 2013, 07:49
Paula, thank you for the last two paragraphs of your post, I hope that your take-away is 'heard' by people reading it. I get frustrated by the frustrated people who have never gone on Atkins site (75% of the book is available there), or are following the antiquated version of Atkins (as evidenced by all the emphasis on "ketone strips'Wink. To anyone reading this, please do yourself a favor: if you are not someone who can read a book or a website, go to Youtube and do a search on Dr. Eric Westman, one of the authors of A New Atkins for a New You and a Duke medical doctor. On Youtube, there are videos where he explains low-carb science. Within these videos he touches on the non-necessitity of ketone strips, anecdotal patient stories of hidden carbs etc. It is wonderful that sites like FS and forums exist, I am getting the support I need for sure. That said, I would feel hamstrung if I didn't educate myself on the science behind my WOE. Dr. Westman wrote it; he is a primary source for the Atkins diet as it is today. The videos are shorter than the average amount of time people spend whining every day about their problems with the diet and promulgating misinformation to one another. Sorry to be harsh, but sometimes the good cops outnumber the bad cops. I am coming from a place of good intention here, just saying.
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Rachel116

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Posted: 01 Jan 2013, 14:57
jsfantome--thank you for the valuable information!
~Rachel~


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angiekae68

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Posted: 05 Jan 2013, 19:29
Bumping this thread up for the newcomers to the group Smile

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angiekae68

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Posted: 12 Jan 2013, 17:24
I hear you loud and clear, Darri, and agree wholeheartedly!

"This one step - choosing a goal and sticking to it - changes everything." - Scott Reed