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xysterdust

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Posted: 26 Nov 2012, 19:30
Ive just joined this site tonight and so far I think it's great. I found this group while looking for Primal, and this one had the most members so I joined. I also see it has very little active conversation!

Im hoping to get some started.

I've been on and off a lot of things for a long time. I started Primal eating about a month about 11/3/2012. Starting at 216 pounds. Today I am 202. I feel great, I'm super excited about the changes in my life. I'm exercising like a beast and I am loving it.

Hoping to find some like minded people here to track progress with.
xysterdust

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Posted: 01 Dec 2012, 09:05
I admit I was hoping for a warmer welcome than this. Is this the normal speed of things here?
firefocks2k

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Posted: 01 Dec 2012, 11:56
Its not too bad this Promal thing. Kinda a personal jouney I guess. The site is cool.

I have asked if they can help us by listing foods by carb, protien content etc...

What do you think?
xysterdust

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Posted: 01 Dec 2012, 14:41
do you mean the site? I'm pretty cool with the way they show the nutrition actually. I've been having a lot of fun entering my meals. By fun, meaning I think it's really interesting seeing the nutritional breakdown. I've been eating this way solidly for a month, and I'm losing weight like crazy. Its funny to see some days I'm near 3k calories and other days I'm not even half that. I jsut eat what I feel like, as long as its OK foods. And I eat a LOT. I'm loving this site though for the reference. It's neat. Thanks for the response!
CollMac

Joined: Mar 12
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Posted: 03 Dec 2012, 15:17
Hi, Not on here often enought to chat. I usually use my cell to enter food all day long.
I've been eating primal for over a year. I love it. I started at 300 now I am 188.8
milkybunnych...

Joined: Dec 12
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Posted: 16 Feb 2013, 08:03
Hello! Very Happy I am also loving the paleo diet!
I have been doing this since 28th Jan
No processed food or grains or any rubbish.
Just Whole foods and..

Everything taste so good! ! !
I have already had a huge difference with my weight and the way I look! I am truly shocked

I am really happy now since starting it!

I have turned a new leaf Laughing




MarGoEats

Joined: Jul 12
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Posted: 05 Mar 2013, 13:16
Went primal 3 days ago. I believe the last detox headache left this afternoon. I'm in it for health but wouldn't mind losing a few pounds. The simplicity of it is liberating. I see a lifestyle in the making. Good luck to anyone who wants to live in 'Prime-al' health like i do.
Yes I can and Yes I did!

MargoEats
ChgoMusicGir...

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Posted: 09 Mar 2013, 08:16
I switched from Atkins (where I lost almost 50 pounds) to Paleo/Primal in January. I did a Whole30, but then fell off the wagon, I think I was eating too much fruit, because I craved sugar ALL of the time and gave in to my cravings a few too many times (and I NEVER craved sugar while on Atkins). So now I'm doing the 21 Day Sugar Detox and am on Day 5. Detox headaches are gone and I'm finally feeling normal again. SO glad to be back on track!
purplejojo

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Posted: 29 Apr 2013, 08:17
No replies to my first post when I joined last week, but glad to see some here. I want to find advice and encouragement as this is a total lifestyle change for me. It's been almost a full week, and I'm slowing leaning into primal. As I saw here, sugar is still a huge craving as are potato chips Sad. Today is a new day...
Ce Monster

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Posted: 14 May 2013, 22:43
Hello, I have been on the Ketogenic Diet for 4 days. Lost 7 lbs, but having some trouble eating enough calories without increasing carbs. I am definitely burning fat, so my ketostix say. Anyway, this is my first time here. I have been using MYFITNESSPAL, but it doesn't adjust very well to a high fat diet.
Ce Monster

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Posted: 14 May 2013, 22:46
purplejojo wrote:
No replies to my first post when I joined last week, but glad to see some here. I want to find advice and encouragement as this is a total lifestyle change for me. It's been almost a full week, and I'm slowing leaning into primal. As I saw here, sugar is still a huge craving as are potato chips Sad. Today is a new day...


Welcome. Your cravings will stop instantly when you are completely Ketogenic. When you eat anything processed, the cravings are awakened. Good luck.
mg2449

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Posted: 29 May 2013, 22:16
Hi,

I just want to lend my encouragement to anyone getting started on a primal/paleo/whatever diet. I have been strictly primal since November 2012, and I am not going back! Progress can be slower than one might initially hope/expect, but I think that the paleo template can really help - if not everyone, than many people - in the long term.

I'm happy to answer any questions others in this group might have!
purplejojo

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Posted: 30 May 2013, 07:22
Glad to see your post! I have questions for you Smile
I'm trying to lean into paleo, but wonder if I need to go cold turkey? In other words, my cravings for starches, carbs ands sugar are intense! That's been my diet for most of my life. Also, I've never been very active, and my energy level is generally low.
If I need to go full into it, I'm not sure which "plan" to follow as there are so many suggestions on line. So an example of breakfast, lunch, dinner and snacks would be much appreciated. 💜
mg2449

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Posted: 30 May 2013, 12:11
Hi purplejojo,

Awesome! I'll try to answer as best I can. Of course, there are people writing books on this stuff (although writing a book doesn't make you right) and I have no authority on this subject, but I have sifted through a lot of material in the past couple years, so maybe I can help distill some of that for you.

When I think about what advice to give, I notice that a lot of my thoughts are kind of contradictory: I think that leaning into paleo can be a great way of making a long-term lifestyle change and not letting it become a fad diet for you, but at the same time, doing a 30-day all-out trial can give you a greater sense of accomplishment, show more distinct differences in how you feel on and off the diet, and allow you to systematically test the effects of certain food groups like dairy.

I think that the best plan is to take the strategy that sounds the most appealing to you, the one that will make you feel like: yeah! I'm going 30 days 100 % paleo and I'm on a role! or like: yeah - I am making small gradual changes to my lifestyle that I know I can keep and build on forever!

In effect, I think I used a combination of both of those things. At several points in the past couple years, I have done a 30 or 60 day super strict regimen. But on the other hand, for the ~6 months before November 2012 (since I have been overall consistently primal) I was paleo during the week. That helped me ease into it, in a way. But I didn't really make much physical progress during that time (at least that I could notice), it was more a mental preparation.

Whatever you do, just resolve to move FORWARD. The particulars of your diet will and should evolve as you go, and you don't have to figure it all out at once, but take steps that are definitively in the right direction.

Here are several things you can do to make this process easier and to focus on the big things:

- the single most valuable part of the paleo template, to me, is getting rid of processed/refined foods. You can be "paleo" and eat supermarket bacon every day, but don't do that! Try to eat ONLY (or allllmost only) real food. Build a good definition for yourself as to what qualifies as real food (because it's partially obvious but not totally obvious): you might focus on veggies, meats, and fruits and try to minimize everything else. You might avoid anything that comes in a box or packaging. There are different ways to spin it, but pick something that is clear in your mind so that when you need to make decisions about what to buy or eat, you can judge it quickly and confidently.

- see the big picture, but set yourself up for "small wins." For me, a long-term goal has been learning how to do a pull-up (I've been working on it for two years and I'm ALMOST there!), but an unexpected small win was being able to do perfect push-ups. Naturally, the ultimate long-term goal for me is feeling and looking great and slim and fit, but - even though I started at a TOTALLY healthy weight - that can take a LONG time. I think a great strategy is to set yourself up for long-term big-change success, but then stick your head in the sand, to some extent, while you execute your plan. Make a plan, stick to it, and then forget about it and move on with your life. Check in periodically (on the order of every month or couple months) to monitor progress, modify your strategy, and then repeat.

- related to the last point: use small steps to gradually modify your "identity." For instance, I have never been athletic. Since young adulthood, I have occasionally tried to workout in some way but I didn't enjoy it and felt awkward. When I started a more concerted weight-lifting regimen about a year and a half ago (and had the help of my boyfriend, who has always been an athlete and super-organized/consistent person), the most important thing about it was that I was consistent. Even six months in, I looked back and thought "wow, I used to hate going to the gym, but now I am 'someone who works out.' I feel like a doofus in the gym sometimes, but I know I belong here, and I am way more happy to get up early and go work out because I enjoy and value being able to identify myself as 'someone who works out.'" There are lots of different options for what type of activities/workouts to do to get the best results and different tricks or things that can make it easier to make progress, which are all important, but I think the most important thing is your identity. Change your identity (with easy, small steps, over time), and the sky is the limit.

- Also, lifting weights is awesome because it gives you a measure of progress. There are lots of times when I would still have a poor body image, and one thing I could hold on to is the undeniable fact that I am stronger than I used to be. Other measurements of progress are good too: waist/hip measurements (not too often), body composition measurements (calipers or whatever), basic blood panels. All of these measurements are flawed and you shouldn't invest too much in any of them, but just having data and being able to monitor progress is a generally good thing.

- You can make adhering the a paleo lifestyle as convenient or inconvenient as you wish. I will all depend on your preferences, your budget, your time constraints... so you need to find what works for you. For me, I love to cook and spend time on food and fitness, but I also save time by making large meals (especially lunches) and keeping them frozen or in the fridge in tupperware during the week. Sturdy food contains can be a life-saver! I recommend getting a big, inexpensive set of containers of different sizes with snappable lids (or mason jars with tight-fitting lids). This makes life so much easier. Oh, also, fresh produce will last WAY longer in good, sealable storage containers than it will in a bag or something. I don't have time to shop for food multiple times a week, so this makes it possible for me to eat veggies all the time.

Ok, enough of that, this is getting long (it was getting long five paragraphs ago...) You requested an example of meals, so let me give you that. I also suffer from major low-energy issues, so this might actually be helpful for you (keep in mind that none of this stuff is set in stone, this is just the schedule I am on right now):

Breakfast: coffee with a 1/2 tbs raw grassfed milk butter and and 1/2 tbs coconut oil. On the weekends, I'll usually eat a real breakfast with eggs, spinach, onions, etc. This is the newest part of my diet - I have never been a regular coffee drinker, and I have eaten a real breakfast every day for years, but I am so far finding that it helps me stay focused at work and gives me energy during the day, and I don't really miss breakfast... just something to play with.

Lunch: the perfect salad: mixed greens with roasted zucchini, yellow squash, mushrooms, and toasted pumpkin seeds (all roasted with a little olive oil in a pretty hot oven (400 F) until brown) with a balsamic vinaigrette (just throw together a nice dijon mustard, traditional balsamic vinegar, and a little olive oil). So this salad, usually with a little piece of meat (a small hamburger patty, a piece of chicken breast, meatballs). Lunches I make all at once on sunday and then keep things frozen/in the fridge so I can just heat them up. This is where tupperware becomes important.

Snack: I try to not snack, but if I feel a desire to, I will have something like raw cauliflower cut up with some olive oil and salt or homemade beef jerky (it's super easy, check it out).

Dinner: a sexy piece of meat and some sauteed veggies. I try to get all of my food organic/grass-fed/pasture raised/free-range/local/super-pretentious, so to not break the bank, I focus on the cheapest cuts of high quality meat I can find. I still spend a lot of my income on food, but to me, it's totally worth it. So dinner will be something like lamb shank, pork chops, skirt steak, short ribs, chicken, something with liver, salmon or shellfish, and the veggie will be kale, spinach, cauliflower, zucchini, mustard greens, brussels sprouts etc. For the meat, I will either braise it or pan sear it, depending on the cut. Braising is an AMAZING way of making some meats that would otherwise being pretty uninspiring. Just try braising a lamb shank in red wine, beef bone broth, with some tomatoes, garlic, shallots and onion on a low heat for a long time... amazing. I have a simple piece of advice with veggies: if you cook pretty much any vegetable in olive oil and salt until it gets a little brown, it will be delicious.

For my boyfriend and I, eating like this costs about $200 a week, with us buying about half of our food at a farmer's market and half at Whole Foods, almost all organic/grass-fed/pasture raised/you-know-the-deal stuff. Is it the cheapest way to live? No. But it's delicious, healthy, and entirely worth it, in my opinion. If you were determined, you could probably do it for $125-150 a week with the same quality ingredients, if you cut out all of the more decorative things we get (more complicated dishes will have some random ingredients like a nice cheese or something that you don't really NEED, but it makes life more interesting).

Hope this helps. Now it looks like I've written my own book! I'm happy to answer any other questions you might have.

Take care!
mg2449

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Posted: 30 May 2013, 12:31
Also, real quick - some links to sites that I think give a good overview of some strategies for using the paleo template:

http://greatist.com/health/ultimate-guide-eating-paleo-infographic
- a quick, easy infographic to use as a very general reference

http://www.marksdailyapple.com/primal-blueprint-101/#axzz2UnWgt0c6
- just one intro page on this extensive blog, which has pretty even-keeled advice on a very wide range of issues.

http://www.fatburningman.com/paul-jaminet-safe-starches-fecal-transplants-and-good-news-for-wine-lovers/
- this is a podcast interview of Paul Jaminet on the Fat Burning Man show. I really like Paul's description of why diets fail and why nutrient density matters - you can fast foward to 20 minutes in, the main point is at about 25 minutes in.

http://christhekiwi.com/139/
- this guy is a spokesperson for a green supplement company, but he puts out some general advice that has very little to do with buying any product.
purplejojo

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Posted: 30 May 2013, 17:29
Wow thank you for such great information and inspiration! This is just what I need! I know we have to be held accountable for ourselves, but I always do better when I have encouragement.😊today was pretty good except for the potatoes I ate. Over the weekend I plan to make a menu that's only paleo, and have our whole house eat the same thing. This will make it easier for me as I try to wean myself off of carbs! I will visit the sites you recommend for more ideas...thanks!!!
mg2449

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Posted: 30 May 2013, 20:21
You're welcome! I'm happy to help. Yeah, being paleo gets a lot easier when you can convince the people you live with that it can be incredibly delicious and not deprived.

Best of luck! Let me know how it goes.