Daisygirl200's Journal, 19 June 2018

I met a man once who used to weigh 450 pounds. He had bariatric surgery and lost all of the weight. The one thing he said to me that still sticks today is bariatric surgery is basically your body starving to death as you wait for the weight to come off. As I watch all these arguments on Fatsecret about which diet is best - keto, CICO, whole foods, vegan... it really all boils down to one simple hard question.... how do you want to starve yourself to reach your goal? Yes you are starving yourself in the simplest sense. In the end all that matters is how you want to do it.

Diet Calendar Entries for 19 June 2018:
1380 kcal Fat: 72.27g | Prot: 43.86g | Carb: 138.11g.   Breakfast: Coffee-Mate Fat Free French Vanilla Liquid Coffee Creamer, Coffee-Mate Sugar Free French Vanilla Liquid Coffee Creamer, Coffee, Coffee-Mate Sugar Free French Vanilla Liquid Coffee Creamer. Lunch: Iceberg Lettuce (Includes Crisphead Types), Bolthouse Farms Premium Matchstix Carrots, Grape Tomatoes, Avocados, Tyson Foods Spicy Chicken Breast Patties, Fresh Gourmet Wonton Strips Authentic. Dinner: Great Value Buttermilk Frozen Biscuits, Odom's Tennessee Pride Country Sausage, Dairy Pure Fat Free Milk, White Flour, Eggland's Best Extra Large Grade A Eggs. Snacks/Other: Bananas, Coffee, Coffee-Mate Sugar Free French Vanilla Liquid Coffee Creamer. more...
2645 kcal Activities & Exercise: Bike Machine (Cycling) - 30 minutes, Resting - 15 hours and 30 minutes, Sleeping - 8 hours. more...
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If you are starving yourself, you are doing it wrong..lol 
19 Jun 18 by member: Tabbigurl
"Starving" is a 'loaded' word :) It implies that the calorie reduction is involuntary or is at a level that causes malnourishment and or death. I don't think anyone is ever advocating that! :) However, if I reduce my calories voluntarily and provide "nourish" to my body by feeding it my stored fat, I am not starving nor depriving it at all. 
19 Jun 18 by member: adefwebserver
The body eats itself of fat. Every diet works the same. You must induce body fat burning/eating. Gross as it sounds... 
19 Jun 18 by member: Daisygirl200
I suppose starving probably isn't the correct term to convey but dammit I'm starving!!!!! Lolol 
19 Jun 18 by member: Daisygirl200
Starving is a psychological condition, not a physical condition.  
19 Jun 18 by member: Phil
That is why I like fasting. Gets strait to the point.  
19 Jun 18 by member: adefwebserver
at first you will feel like your starving but your stomach will shrink and you will feel fuller. My son was always hungry always eating. A really bad habit he learned with my ex. It took a year for me and my boyfriend to teach him to eat less. Now he gets full quick and now he is losing weight. you have to eat healthy low calorie filling food. protein, fiber. Losing weight is HARD work.  
19 Jun 18 by member: zacali
No, starving is real. Ask anyone from a third world country, ask anyone who survived the Nazi concentration camps. YOU have never starved. I survived 4 months in the jungles of Vietnam during monsoon season living on raw snake, grubs and rats. I also know what starving is. 
19 Jun 18 by member: Kenna Morton
Sure, starving is real in extreme situations, which aren't what we are talking about, Kenna Morton.  
19 Jun 18 by member: Phil
I prefer to look at it as: eating less of what I should vs. too much of what I want. Fuel vs. comfort. 
19 Jun 18 by member: Peasy3
Or serve* ourselves.😬.. For me, the choice to opt out of dairy and meat does not leave me starving. Very preferential via each persons worldview but I also don’t beat myself to death if I happen to eat something that was made with an egg or so. For me, it’s more about what my body is more accepting of and I chose the foods that give me less issues in the long run. Our society has become label whores and shuns each person who cannot live up to the “label” they identify with. I love this community because we’re all just here, trying. Never stop that y’all 💋✨🌻blessings 
19 Jun 18 by member: kscottonc
1200 calories, if you’re eating the right foods, can be a LOT of food. It’s hardly starvation. You will lose weight, unless you have a medical condition that effects it. I’m old, 74. I’m short, 5’2”. I can actually eat 1400 calories, averaged out over one month, and lose one lb a week. If you want to lose faster, go down to 1200 calories a day. It’s only a SMALL amount of food if you’re eating high calorie, fattening foods. 
19 Jun 18 by member: Johanne
We have a choice in the matter what we put in our mouths. I chose for myself not to eat meat or fish and only eat fruits, nuts and vegetables for a couples of months and then I will decide to add fish and turkey later. I do try to buy organic. I watch Joe Cross video and He really encourage me😊  
19 Jun 18 by member: Strong200
I just count calories and eat healthy. Basically, weight watchers but instead of points, I count calories. No starving, just finding healthy ways to eat. For example, I use my same lasagna sauce I did before, but I use 7% hamburger, just mozzarella, and spaghetti squash for the noodles. 
19 Jun 18 by member: misty1962
This is an interesting perspective - thanks for posting. Since I made the switch to my WOE I have not felt starved. I look at it as that I am now eating correctly portioned meals (Nutrition and macros) that meet my daily intake goals. the end result is that I feel better, I am healthier and still get to eat what ever I want. 
19 Jun 18 by member: tahoebrun
My point was not really to get hung up on "starving"...****sigh***. this was the bariatric man's view when I talked to him and I liked his view. The point is the body must use the excess fat. So whether you do keto and deprive the body of carbs to burn fat or you do CICO and limit the fuel going into the body in my opinion it really is the same process. In both "diets" you must make your body eat the fat/burn it. To me, arguing about diets is silly when diets promote the same thing. 
19 Jun 18 by member: Daisygirl200
Yeah, the word choice of starving probably should have been hungry. She’s hungry , not starving which is an involuntary state. 
19 Jun 18 by member: Chow moore
Wow.  
19 Jun 18 by member: MightyFull
I would ask what he was doing to his body when he weighed 450 pounds. One does not need to starve one's self to loss weight. Eat the calories your body requires and be physically active. That does not in anyway resemble starving your body. It is true that if you are are obese (I was) you need to do something dramatic calorie wise. But that doesn't mean you starve yourself. I was eating nearly 3000 calories a day that's how I got obese. I cut my calories to 1500 and started to walk. A little at first and now I'm up to 5 miles a day. It all starts with making a change and sticking to it.  
19 Jun 18 by member: jamestyre
After bariatric surgery you can only eat tiny amounts and if you go to a site where they are grouped talking they are all very hungry but unable to eat anything but ting amounts of food. 
19 Jun 18 by member: Daisygirl200

     
 

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