Hungy All the Time! HELP!

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Killer7Ksev

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Posted: 24 Apr 2013, 12:06
I,ve been having issues with constant hunger for a little less than a year now. I would definatly say I am well informed when it comes to diet and weightloss but I cannot wrap my head around the hunger issue. I have a mental hunger that dosent go away by eating or having food in my stomach. I constantly thinks about food all day and my mouth is always watering. I have tried many different meal frequencys and macronutrient ratios. Even when I eat at my maintenance calories or slightly above it does not seem to help very much. I have accuratly tracked everything that I have eaten since the beginning of the year so feel free to look. I have a feeling that this issue is due to something hormonal or maybe even a thyroid issue. I take many vitamins specific to what my doctor thinks I need. I will probably go to see a specialist for this issue soon. If there is anyone who is well versed in hunger or related, please feel free to give advice or ask for any more information you may need to give advice.

19 years old
190 lbs
2800-2900 calories a day maintenance
around 16-17% bodyfat
x3 days a week lifting weights + 30 min light cardio

Thanks
kingkeld

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Posted: 24 Apr 2013, 12:34
I have recently written quite a bit about this in my journals. Take a look at my entries for the last week or so - you will find what you need there, I believe. Smile

Also, this issue has been adressed SO MANY times here in these forums, no offense. Use the search thingy and you will find quite a bit of great advice. Just make sure you try to filter out all the misinformation that is also given. It's a jungle out there kiddo.

If you feel like it, feel free to add me as a buddy.

Keld.
"Losing weight is never about eating as little as possible"
- Kingkeld.
"You wouldn't worry so much about what others think of you if you realized how seldom they do.
― Eleanor Roosevelt
"Do. Or do not. There is no trying."
- Master Yoda.

I went from morbidly obese to being the owner of TABDIG - a weight loss coaching service that helps people worldwide losing weight. It's been an amazing journey. From October 4th 2010 to April 3rd 2012 I lost half my body weight - 80 kilos/170 lbs. Since then, I have had two cosmetic surgeries to remove excess skin. I have now quadrupled my strength, gained several kilos in muscle mass, and today I focus on building muscle, optimizing my diet, living healthy and helping people to reach the very same goals. I am stronger, healthier, thinner, happier! If you feel that you need help losing weight, don't hesitate to send me an inbox message.
Killer7Ksev

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Posted: 24 Apr 2013, 13:47
kingkeld wrote:
I have recently written quite a bit about this in my journals. Take a look at my entries for the last week or so - you will find what you need there, I believe. Smile

Also, this issue has been adressed SO MANY times here in these forums, no offense. Use the search thingy and you will find quite a bit of great advice. Just make sure you try to filter out all the misinformation that is also given. It's a jungle out there kiddo.

If you feel like it, feel free to add me as a buddy.

Keld.


I am not seeing this information in your entries nor have I come across someone with my described problem (as bad as it is). I am looking for more scientific advice as I know the basics.

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Wyattj99

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Posted: 24 Apr 2013, 15:17
What do you drink? Have you tried just drinking tons of water through out the day? I drink about 9/10 bottles of water a day ....3 main meals and at least snacks 2/3 a days. My intake is lower for calories a day as well and I feel full and don't have the hunger pains.
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Cthulhu

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Posted: 24 Apr 2013, 15:46
Well you might recalculate your RDI based on sedentary, then eat 500 calories less per day than that amount (regardless of exercise) to get your needed weightloss deficit.

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madjak30

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Posted: 24 Apr 2013, 16:24
You may want to be checked for diabetes...I just read that hunger can be a symptom...your body is craving energy, but your cells don't accept the sugars that are already in your blood so they keep sending the hunger trigger for you to eat...hope it's not something more serious...could also just be a mental hunger...see a doctor to be sure & rule stuff out. Good Luck!
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kingkeld

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Posted: 24 Apr 2013, 20:08
I've been babbling for days (weeks?) about "resetting your hunger", by doing a fasting day, and learning what happens. This will efficiently make you realize WHEN you actually are hungry, and make you deal with it so much easier.

Sure, go find scientific research. Numbers and statistics won't help you when your hunger is messing with your head. You need to go learn about dealing with it, first hand.

Suit yourself, though. Smile
"Losing weight is never about eating as little as possible"
- Kingkeld.
"You wouldn't worry so much about what others think of you if you realized how seldom they do.
― Eleanor Roosevelt
"Do. Or do not. There is no trying."
- Master Yoda.

I went from morbidly obese to being the owner of TABDIG - a weight loss coaching service that helps people worldwide losing weight. It's been an amazing journey. From October 4th 2010 to April 3rd 2012 I lost half my body weight - 80 kilos/170 lbs. Since then, I have had two cosmetic surgeries to remove excess skin. I have now quadrupled my strength, gained several kilos in muscle mass, and today I focus on building muscle, optimizing my diet, living healthy and helping people to reach the very same goals. I am stronger, healthier, thinner, happier! If you feel that you need help losing weight, don't hesitate to send me an inbox message.
Misspoo4

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Posted: 24 Apr 2013, 20:37
Some people report feeling "hungry" when what they really have is a high acidity level in their stomach. Those hunger pangs could actually mean your stomach lining is irritated. Start taking a good proton pump inhibitor regularly, and see if some of those physical feelings dissipate. Mental hunger is also very real and can be triggered by all sorts of things, even stress or a heightened sense of awareness about being hungry all the time. Take Pavlov's dogs, for example. Just hearing a sound made them foam at the mouth in anticipation of food. My advice is to relax, start taking antacids, and don't fixate on this any longer. Focus your energy on something else like a project you enjoy.
kingkeld

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Posted: 25 Apr 2013, 00:08
It could also simply be lack of ability to recognize WHEN you are physically hungry. As simple as that. It's easily fixed.
"Losing weight is never about eating as little as possible"
- Kingkeld.
"You wouldn't worry so much about what others think of you if you realized how seldom they do.
― Eleanor Roosevelt
"Do. Or do not. There is no trying."
- Master Yoda.

I went from morbidly obese to being the owner of TABDIG - a weight loss coaching service that helps people worldwide losing weight. It's been an amazing journey. From October 4th 2010 to April 3rd 2012 I lost half my body weight - 80 kilos/170 lbs. Since then, I have had two cosmetic surgeries to remove excess skin. I have now quadrupled my strength, gained several kilos in muscle mass, and today I focus on building muscle, optimizing my diet, living healthy and helping people to reach the very same goals. I am stronger, healthier, thinner, happier! If you feel that you need help losing weight, don't hesitate to send me an inbox message.
rbanhatti

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Posted: 25 Apr 2013, 04:23
I agree that it could be a high level of acid,but I wouldn't take antacids- this will just make it worse iron the long run. Drink plenty of water throughout the day. By the time you're thirsty, your body is already low on water!

I would also recommend doing a fast, as the previous person said, to reset your hunger. Try fasting for a day to begin with- it will probably be uber hard but you'll feel so proud by the end of the day! And keep yourself busy, it helps Smile Speaking from personal experience! Good luck!
kingkeld

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Posted: 25 Apr 2013, 05:29
Fasting is NOT hard. It sounds like the hardest thing in the world for us people who loves/are addicted to foods. However, once you do it you will see that it's actually surprisingly easy.

All it is is not having snacks after dinner, then skip breakfast and lunch. That's all. Haven't we all done that one time or another?

I'm doing it again today just for the hell of it. I couldn't sleep last night so I was up at 2 AM. It's now 12:30 noon. I haven't eaten yet, and have only had water and black coffee. I have sat RIGHT in front of Wife, watching her munch a huge piece of German Chocolate Cake, and I have no urge to have any, and it doesn't provoke my hunger, because MY MIND IS SET to do this. This is what you can accomplish by resetting your hunger.

Trust me when I say this - it works and it's a lot easier than you think.
"Losing weight is never about eating as little as possible"
- Kingkeld.
"You wouldn't worry so much about what others think of you if you realized how seldom they do.
― Eleanor Roosevelt
"Do. Or do not. There is no trying."
- Master Yoda.

I went from morbidly obese to being the owner of TABDIG - a weight loss coaching service that helps people worldwide losing weight. It's been an amazing journey. From October 4th 2010 to April 3rd 2012 I lost half my body weight - 80 kilos/170 lbs. Since then, I have had two cosmetic surgeries to remove excess skin. I have now quadrupled my strength, gained several kilos in muscle mass, and today I focus on building muscle, optimizing my diet, living healthy and helping people to reach the very same goals. I am stronger, healthier, thinner, happier! If you feel that you need help losing weight, don't hesitate to send me an inbox message.
NCNOLE

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Posted: 25 Apr 2013, 06:03
I'm working on this "fasting" thing myself. In an effort to reduce the "hunger pains". Since I get up at 5am and work out and then go to work at 7am, I find that I am hungry in the mornings-basically all morning. So, this week I have been trying to gradually move my breakfast to later in the day. I'm still hungry, but oddly not any hungrier than when I was eating breakfast at 6:30am. Since I just started this week, Monday I went from 8pm to 8am without food; Tuesday 8pm to 9am; Wednesday 8pm to 8:45am (I caved); and today I plan to wait until 9:30am for breakfast; tomorrow I will push it to 10am.... I plan to gradually push breakfast to later in the day until I can hold out until noon; then I will "fast" from 8pm to noon. This is my effort to realize that I will not pass out if I skip breakfast and to hopefully be okay with feeling these hunger pains. It's okay to feel hungry and in order for me to have long term success, I can't feed myself every time I feel hungry. I'm not starving myself - I eat about 1300-1500 calories/day.
Diablo360x

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Posted: 25 Apr 2013, 06:33
I love fasting for calorie control. Keep it up!
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Killer7Ksev

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Posted: 25 Apr 2013, 08:06
Thank you everyone for your feedback. Here are some answers to your questions/replys.

@Wyattj99- I drink plenty of water. Definatly around 1-1.5 gallons a day. I have tried more, I have tried less. Water is not the problem.

@madjak30- I will definatly check with my doctor soon.

@kingkeld- I can understand that it's hard to relate to my problem. I do not suffer from a psychological hunger. I know when I'm hungry and when Im not. Like I said, I am not a beginner. I followed Intermittent Fasting for over a year and just switched back to 3 meals a day in attemp to fix the hunger issue. I am not blaming IF but this issue started shortly after I began IF. I also tried 6 meals a day which did not seem to make a difference. Also, I do remember when first starting IF, getting the feeling of disconnecting from food. I could do 20-24 hour fasts no problem. This hunger issue seems to be comepletely seperate, began a couple months into IF and has progressively gotten worse since.

@Misspoo4- Sounds interesting but I do not suffer from hunger pangs. It seems that my stomach is not communicating with my brain. As I dont feel stomach hunger or fullness. This may be an issue with the ghrelin hormone. Also, it is hard not to think about it when all I can think about is food. Its similar to what happens to starving people. Heck, I even dream about food and wake up hungry. I promise you if I could forget about it,I would.

Thanks everyone, I look forward to more feedback.
iamachristia...

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Posted: 27 Apr 2013, 20:56
Oddly you might try chewing gum after eating to see if that helps you to not have as high of a desire to eat. Sometimes I just try tricking my brain. Sometimes I want to eat even when I am not hungry and I just keep having to tell myself no. Other times even when I feel like I have eaten a sufficient amount I still feel hungry but I just wait to see if my full signal just needs to catch up. Hope my blabbering made a little sense.
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iamachristia...

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Posted: 27 Apr 2013, 20:58
Also weird but true whenever I eat wheat makes me feel like I am starving all day long.
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Ingria

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Posted: 28 Apr 2013, 02:35
Just a wild guess, but I always feel hungry after I eat apples. I noticed you eat a lot of them. In theory, what you eat should not affect your hunger level, in practice it does. If you are allergic to any food, your body can interpret allergy as hunger. Also if you have any mineral or vitamin defficiency, your body can interpret it as hunger. What about your sleep patterns? If you are sleep deprived and lack energy you can also feel hungry. You already mentioned hormones, that can be a reason as well. Our brain is responsible for interpreting the signals it gets and sometimes it gets confused and interprets other issues as hunger. I hope you are able to figure it out soon.
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Killer7Ksev

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Posted: 29 Apr 2013, 07:00
@ iamachristia...- I have tried chewing gum after and before eating I't does seem to help a slight bit. Also, I tend to have the same issue with wheat, but that is most likely because the wheat that we eat is processed and has higher GI, thus digesting quicker and spiking blood sugar levels more. I stay away from wheat because I have a mild sensitivity.

@ Ingria- I have had blood tests done and they have shown no known food allergies. The blood tests did show that I had a mild sensitivity to wheat and a greater sensitivity to casein. I have eliminated both from my diet. I eat a very nutritious diet and am on a vitamin stack perscribed by my doctor. I have definatly seen a correlation between sleep and my energy/hunger. In general I get 8 hours a night but my cycle shifts back a few hours on the weekends. Thanks I appreciate it.

@ Others- I recieved a couple sugestions that my problem my be diabetes. I have not recieved my official blood work back yet but I did take my own fasting blood sugar. 81 is in the normal range. Also, I am beginning to think that this may be a thyroid issue. I have noticed in the past few months that I have a greatly increased sensitivity to cold.
NCNOLE

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Posted: 29 Apr 2013, 07:33
Here's my follow up. I tried the "fasting" thing last week by gradually pushing my breakfast to later in the day. I've been a little hungry, but not really much more than usual. It did help me push through other times when I thought I was hungry. I think your body gets used to eating at certain times and it is good to switch it up. My main goal in the fasting was to learn how to manage the hunger pains and to decrease the feeling that I needed to have a snack between meals. This week will be my first actual week of basically no breakfast since I will be fasting from 8pm to noon. I would seriously suggest at least changing up the times you eat so that your body is not simply hungry because it is used to eating at "x" time.
mummydee

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Posted: 29 Apr 2013, 07:43
Did you Dr do a T4 test for thyroid problems with your blood work? hope so, another quick way to see how your thyroid is acting is to get some iodine, very cheap, at the drug store, rub some on the inside of your forearm and watch how fast it is absorbed, If it is sucked in and disappears immediately, you are deficient in iodine which is what the thyroid lives on. If it sits on your forearm for a few minutes and doesn't change, you're okay. Of course this is a very crude way of testing and would need blood work to know just how deficient you are, and ask for not just your TSH level but get a T4 test too.



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