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Rhcpcf

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Posted: 09 Jan 2013, 10:53
Recovering Nicotine addicts: I need your help! I quit smoking 20 weeks, 6 days, and 2 hours ago. I was an average pack-a-day smoker (to a pack and a half a day) until my last year or two, I was close to two packs a day. I am 23 (24 in April) and smoked for nearly nine years. Obviously lighter smoking in the early days, but that didn't last long. When I quit in August 2012, I did not think I would face weight gain. I was small (jeans size three) and active and other than being a smoker, very healthy. When I started to gain the weight, I didn't think much of a few pounds.. Then I started noticing certain shorts weren't fitting right, and certain parts of my body were showing that wouldn't normally be. Once I was into a size five, I still didn't have much concern because my weight would fluctuate from time to time, no big deal. Plus gaining a few pounds was way healthier than continuing the wrath of cigarettes. After about a month or so I noticed my morning and afternoon, "restroom breaks" weren't happening anymore. Period. I would go several days without being able to go .. I was working on a golf course doing grounds and greens keeping. I suffered from heat exhaustion once due to over-exerting myself on a 114 degree day (good ole' Oklahoma for ya). So my boss told me I needed to start taking salt pills and adding a tremendous amount of salt to my diet. I did as told, and made it through the summer. 20 pounds heavier!!! Then I switched to a country club (one of the best in the world by the way) and they fed their employees a BUFFET for lunch everday. So not only did I get a wide array of lunch options, but they were all free! And quite tasty.. Those size five shorts quit fitting and now all of the sudden I am in a nine - eleven! At this point I go into shut down-denial mode and continue my bad eating habits. I realized one day when I was on my third plate of LUNCH, that something was wrong with me. Then I had to get new pants for work, because I literally ripped the butt of one, while I was at work, and popped the button off of another. When I went in the fitting room and looked at my fat, disgustingly, intolerable body... I melted down... The size 13 khakis did not fit. I could not believe in the course of mere months (four to be exact) I had gained 40 pounds. Yes! Forty stinking pounds!!! I saw a doctor (check up) the beginning of December and stepped on that scale. That did it for me.. I knew I had gotten heavy (heavier than my boyfriend, who was heavier than me in the beginning). I made a radical change in my diet, and lifestyle. I work out 6-7 days a week doing cardio and strength training. I eat maybe a fifth of what I was eating, portion wise. And 90% of the time eat things that are really healthy and good for me. I used to be small, and I used to eat healthy. That was once my lifestyle. The problem I am facing is getting rid of this weight. My restroom breaks are almost back to being regular (once to twice a day). I have managed to completely halt my weight gain since I started my transformation, but I don't know what to do now. I think I have a different perspective on my weight loss than most people do. This took me 20 weeks, 6 days, and 3 hours to gain. 40 pounds. How do I get back to the old me? And why is it not happening as sudden as the weight gain?
oneirosFade

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Posted: 09 Jan 2013, 11:15
You're not alone - I was a smoker for nearly 12 years, about 2 & 1/2 months quit, now. Also left the military, partially disabled, around 2 years ago... all of it adds up to some nasty weight gain. But we're doing the right thing - clean lungs, and trying to get the weight under control. Just hang in there!
Pgwagner

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Posted: 09 Jan 2013, 11:23
Two years ago I was about 310#, smoked 4 packs a day and health deteriorating; high BP, high cholesterol and triglycerides, sleep apnia, annual (or more) episodes of bronchitis. Easily winded, in general piss-poor health and getting worse.

I planned to retire in about 12 years so I sat down and looked at where I was and where I wanted to be and do when I retired. I became convinced I would probably be bed-ridden and on oxygen if I was lucky enough to survive that long. That was not how I wanted to retire; I did not work all of my life for that.

I decided my best option was to first quit smoking (again) if I was smoking the chance of long-term survival was not very good even with weight loss, especially at the level I was smoking. So armed with Chantix and a clear goal of where I wanted to go I was able to quit smoking; I have not had a cigarette since July 31 2010.

I knew if I tried to remove too many monkeys from my back at once success would elude me again, so I decided to not worry about my weight while I dealt with quitting smoking. As a direct result of that decision by September 31, 2011 my weight had blossomed to 342 pounds. That was OK though, I had successfully quit smoking and was over pretty much all urges; and still had a plan which was going as intended.

So about October 1, 2011 (estimate, didn't mark calendar) I began a 2000 calorie a day diet I had found on the internet a while back and had pretty good results with. It was well balanced, not a fad diet just a since-able diet. Weight was dropping just OK, nothing spectacular but the nurse at work did notice and we talked about it. She told me about the phone app for FS so I checked it out.

I took to it like a duck to water! That is when my life changed big time. By HONESTLY entering what I did I found that yes, those 10 Jolly Ranchers DO COUNT! That powdered coffee creamer is not harmless and there is sugar in EVERYTHING!

I set realistic goals like wanting to get down to 180 pounds, avoid added sugar, I also gave up gluten (by choice), buy fat free everything. By doing those things my actual daily calorie intake went down to about 1400 and to be honest I am never hungry and have headed more down the path of eating all natural stuff (and not kicking and screaming either).

Today, a little over a year after I started at a weight of 342 pounds, I do not smoke and my weight is 230 pounds (down 112 pounds. My blood glucose and lipid panel are all good, in fact everything a blood test can show is good. I did develop an atrial flutter which has been corrected and the Dr. said it was probably caused from my previous lifestyle and stress.

In closing I truly believe if I did not have the FS tool to track real time what I was shoving in my pie-hole I would have failed again. It certainly was not because of not wanting it, nor was it because I didn't have will power (I did quit smoking after all), it was a lack of knowledge! I will admit that I ALSO had to change how I thought about food, I figured out the purpose of food was to nourish the body; not replace an ex, get even with my boss or make my bills go away. In fact it actually made all of those worse in the long run.

So to make a short story long, the nurse at work told me about it....and saved my life
iamachristia...

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Posted: 09 Jan 2013, 11:44
PgWagner that is awesome!
To the world you are one person.... But to one person you could be the world.

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Rhcpcf

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Posted: 09 Jan 2013, 16:35
Wow thanks for the replies! I am somewhat struggling right now.. My main issue being not losing any weight. I failed to mention I was over weight (170) in a depressing relationship. When I got out of at relationship (Feb. 2011) I lost about 35 pounds by April 2011. Kept it off for over a year with no problem and without trying. Which brings me to my worries. Why is it not happening like that, now?! Ugh! This is my only struggle. My appetite is not longer a problem for me. I am not thinking about food 24/7.. I did like tracking my diet everyday, but my main problem was it took too long to enter things in. Maybe that's just me being slightly lazy..... That is something I will definitely work on. And pgwagner, that is an impressive and inspiring story! Congratulations on everything you have overcome and I wish you the best for the remaainder of your journey!
Rhcpcf

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Posted: 09 Jan 2013, 16:37
I meant to emphasize that I am only somewhat struggling. Besides what I said above, I excersize more than I ever have in my life, and eat the healthiest I've ever eaten. Not to mention, I'm no longer a smoker! I know if I have the strength to quit cold turkey, I can do anything!
eKatherine

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Posted: 09 Jan 2013, 16:42
Nicotine is a stimulant that tends to suppress the appetite. It has been found that giving up smoking usually leads to weight gain. I think you have to do what Pgwagner did, accept the weight gain as a normal response to quitting cigarettes and then diet it off.
Only1Bones

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Posted: 09 Jan 2013, 18:50
I had quit smoking for 16 years and then divorce let me right back to it. I had quit off and on over the years..but nothing really stuck again like the first time. Well..I haven't had a cigarette since November 18th and I've put on a few pounds. I also put on some since starting a different job in July 2011...for a total of about 11 pounds. On my frame that feels like a ton.

Before I quit I had everything checked out. Have you been in for a physical or had your thyroid levels checked? My daughter sounds like you although she wasn't a smoker...just was always real small. All her levels checked out fine but it hit me that she started gaining weight after changing to a different b/c pill. So she is changing back to see if that makes a difference. She's extremely active and a decent eater and she put on 30 pounds on her small frame. She was always a tiny one.

I guess what I'm saying is it could be any number of things. If all your chemical levels check out...it could just be that it will take some time to get your metabolism going w/o the smoking.

I've also had to accept the fact I'm no spring chicken anymore and I'll have to work a little harder at things.

Hang in there
ToHaveOrToBe

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Posted: 10 Jan 2013, 08:40
Quitting smoking does a number on everyone - and it's all different!
Aside from being appetite suppressant, it had varying impacts on your metabolism:
I quit ~ 2 years ago... and after the first week (of withdrawal issues related to cold turkey) AND "before" any weight gain, I started watching what I ate, reduced portions, never substituted anything -perhaps a minor increase in chewing gum (sugar free), and significantly reduced unhealthy food...

I gained 20+ pounds in 4 months.

I went crazier with my diet, started gym for the first time in my life, did everything I could... lost a mere ~7 pounds over 10 months.

Then I gave in, and after 14 months, picked up smoking again. Changing nothing in my diet -if not much more relaxed, worse eating habits creeping in, and reduced exercise, I lost the remaining 15lbs in a matter of months!

I have to say that I have not observed such a drastic change in metabolism in my other friends who quit... Nevertheless, smoking is worse for you than weight gain, I just told my story so you may relate a little bit of the why's from another person (your case seems to be more of an increased appetite, though).

Now that I know what to expect, I will be planning my second attempt to quit really carefully. Now it's a matter of when : ))

Good luck, and please stick with your current way, weight is bound to come back to a more sustainable level.

tlegerski

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Posted: 10 Jan 2013, 08:59
I had the same exact issue when I quit 4 years ago. Only when I quit I immediately joined a gym and figured out a diet regimen along with the exact times I needed to eat so I didn't gain any weight. Well, I gained anyways....around 50 lbs. I was so frustrated with what to do that I went to my Dr. and told her what was going on and that I wasn't using food to compensate. She explained to me that every time you have a cigarette you're working your metabolism unnaturally, and eventually it stops working on its own because it doesn't have to, the cigarettes are doing it for it. Apparently it can take up to a year for it to kick back into working right. But as long as you're working out and eating right then it should start back up. So don't lose hope, I know how frustrating it is, but it will take some time. Hope this helps Smile
Rhcpcf

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Posted: 12 Jan 2013, 10:50
Thank you everyone. I think I am getting into the right groove. I have accepted what has happened to me, and am no longer dwelling in it. I don't think I will go back to smoking to lose this weight though.... Lol. ToHave, I hope you find the strength to quit again! And for good this time! Now you know what to do to avoid the weight gain. I definitely shouldmhave educated myself a little more before I quit. Seen a doctor or something. But I just woke up one day, lit a cigarette as normal, smoked half, and put it out. That was my last puff of a cigarette. It was an "on-the-whim" decision... One that I DO NOT regret! Only1, My mother had thyroid issues, but I guess I don't really understand the relation of thyroids and weight. I can't really afford a doctors visit at the moment.. If I continue to bust my bum, and nothing happens, then I will see a doc. Until then I will just pray. And Tiger, I hope that's the case! Oh boy do I. It is logical... That is something I can discuss with the doc, when and if.

Wish I could find some useful, factual sites about what to do AFTER you quit... There's a ton on how TO quit.. Lol
Rhcpcf

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Posted: 12 Jan 2013, 10:52
A little funny thing.. Have you seen those Nicoderm commercials where they say no to a smoke, and then that little band pops up singing " uh! I just wamt to celebrate, I just want to celebrate.." ..... Yeah well I do that Smile every time.
levyc79

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Posted: 29 Aug 2013, 18:48
I am extremely worried. I already have gained so much in the past year I just mentally am not sure I can afford to gain more. I want to quit smoking, in fact I am no Chantix, this is my second week. From the start, I have noticed the disgust I am forming towards cigarettes, though, now I am so physically lazy and tired, my legs can barely get up the stairs, as well as I have preexisting hypothyroid and I am wondering if it is acting up. I cannot seem to quit overeating at night when I come home from work tired and ready for my meal since I started my cessation 2 weeks ago. I am not sure if this will just suddenly end or keep going. i want it to stop now but I seem to just go into a trance. I as well still get major nicotine cravings in the wee hours of the morning, and have started dreading work, pretty much any daily normality. I would like to know if this is normal to quitting or to Chantix or if I need to just lock my self up and throw a way the key? This is all quite frightening and I hope to speak with those whom have experience with Chantix as well as cold turkey. Will I be able to lose this bad eating habit as well as the weight?
thinner120

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Posted: 29 Aug 2013, 19:33
I never used Chantix and understand that there can be side effects. I had battled cigarette addiction for years.I would quit smoking gain 40 pounds, lose 20, and start smoking again. For years I would quit smoking and gain weight, lose weight and start smoking in a viscious cycle. Finally in November of 2012 I tried "Quit Smoking Today" by Dr. Paul McKenna.During the first 3 days I used a nicotine patch. After three days I didn't need the patches atall. This program is a book and cd that you listen to with headphones while totally relaxed and without interruptions for at least 2 weeks. I have no desire to start smoking again. Did I gain weight? No. He has strategies in the book to stop the cravings for food. I am an emotional eater and so I am still battling my weight from years of gaining. Each time I would lose 20 I would gain it back plus 20 more pounds and then some, so even though now I have lost over 40 pounds I have at least 50 more to lose. I still need to work on comfort eating issues as they have always been a problem. I highly recommend Dr. Paul Mckenna's program to anyone battling nicotine addiction. Good luck.
Stay strong, stay focused.



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levyc79

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Posted: 29 Aug 2013, 20:39
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"I never used Chantix and understand that there can be side effects. I had battled cigarette addiction for years.I would quit smoking gain 40 pounds, lose 20, and start smoking again. For years I would quit smoking and gain weight, lose weight and start smoking in a viscious cycle. Finally in November of 2012 I tried "I Can Make You Quit Smoking" by Dr. Paul McKenna.During the first 3 days I used a nicotine patch. After three days I didn't need the patches atall. This program is a book and cd that you listen to with headphones while totally relaxed and without interruptions for at least 2 weeks. I have no desire to start smoking again. Did I gain weight? No. He has strategies in the book to stop the cravings for food. I am an emotional eater and so I am still battling my weight from years of gaining. Each time I would lose 20 I would gain it back plus 20 more pounds and then some, so even though now I have lost over 40 pounds I have at least 50 more to lose. I still need to work on comfort eating issues as they have always been a problem. I highly recommend Dr. Paul Mckenna's program to anyone battling nicotine addiction. Good luck."


Thank You for your suggestion, Thinner120. This book/cd sounds too easy to be true! I will look further into it.
I suppose I am playing whack-a-mole with addictions here. If I quit smoking then off to the next addiction, for me food is one as well. I still am not smoking and taking Chantix though. I would love to hear some more of peoples quitting journeys and also from those who have quit with Chantix or cold turkey as well. I still am wondering about the physical issues (exhaustion, lethargy, body aches) being my medication or cessation.



thinner120

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Posted: 29 Aug 2013, 22:28
levyc79 wrote:
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"I never used Chantix and understand that there can be side effects. I had battled cigarette addiction for years.I would quit smoking gain 40 pounds, lose 20, and start smoking again. For years I would quit smoking and gain weight, lose weight and start smoking in a viscious cycle. Finally in November of 2012 I tried "I Can Make You Quit Smoking" by Dr. Paul McKenna.During the first 3 days I used a nicotine patch. After three days I didn't need the patches atall. This program is a book and cd that you listen to with headphones while totally relaxed and without interruptions for at least 2 weeks. I have no desire to start smoking again. Did I gain weight? No. He has strategies in the book to stop the cravings for food. I am an emotional eater and so I am still battling my weight from years of gaining. Each time I would lose 20 I would gain it back plus 20 more pounds and then some, so even though now I have lost over 40 pounds I have at least 50 more to lose. I still need to work on comfort eating issues as they have always been a problem. I highly recommend Dr. Paul Mckenna's program to anyone battling nicotine addiction. Good luck."


Thank You for your suggestion, Thinner120. This book/cd sounds too easy to be true! I will look further into it.
I suppose I am playing whack-a-mole with addictions here. If I quit smoking then off to the next addiction, for me food is one as well. I still am not smoking and taking Chantix though. I would love to hear some more of peoples quitting journeys and also from those who have quit with Chantix or cold turkey as well. I still am wondering about the physical issues (exhaustion, lethargy, body aches) being my medication or cessation.





Dr. Mckenna's book/cd can be purchased on Ebay. There is a possibility the EFT (Emotional Freedom Therapy) could help you also. For those other symptons I would refer to your physician. Good luck.
Stay strong, stay focused.



Start weight 259 pounds. Ultimate goal: 120 pounds.
"The food will always be there. Anything I want so badly will still be there tomorrow." Pam Turner

"The only reason you will never lose weight is if you quit trying." Kim Benson
thinner120

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Posted: 09 Sep 2013, 13:00
levyc79 wrote:
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"I never used Chantix and understand that there can be side effects. I had battled cigarette addiction for years.I would quit smoking gain 40 pounds, lose 20, and start smoking again. For years I would quit smoking and gain weight, lose weight and start smoking in a viscious cycle. Finally in November of 2012 I tried "Quit Smoking Today" by Dr. Paul McKenna.During the first 3 days I used a nicotine patch. After three days I didn't need the patches atall. This program is a book and cd that you listen to with headphones while totally relaxed and without interruptions for at least 2 weeks. I have no desire to start smoking again. Did I gain weight? No. He has strategies in the book to stop the cravings for food. I am an emotional eater and so I am still battling my weight from years of gaining. Each time I would lose 20 I would gain it back plus 20 more pounds and then some, so even though now I have lost over 40 pounds I have at least 50 more to lose. I still need to work on comfort eating issues as they have always been a problem. I highly recommend Dr. Paul Mckenna's program to anyone battling nicotine addiction. Good luck."


Thank You for your suggestion, Thinner120. This book/cd sounds too easy to be true! I will look further into it.
I suppose I am playing whack-a-mole with addictions here. If I quit smoking then off to the next addiction, for me food is one as well. I still am not smoking and taking Chantix though. I would love to hear some more of peoples quitting journeys and also from those who have quit with Chantix or cold turkey as well. I still am wondering about the physical issues (exhaustion, lethargy, body aches) being my medication or cessation.

I am sorry. I mistakenly gave you the wrong title. Both books are sitting here by me in my book case & I must hav egot them mixed up in my thought process when I was writing: Dr Paul McKenna wrote "I Can Make You Thin" and the title of the "quitting smoking method" was "Quit Smoking Today".

Stay strong, stay focused.



Start weight 259 pounds. Ultimate goal: 120 pounds.
"The food will always be there. Anything I want so badly will still be there tomorrow." Pam Turner

"The only reason you will never lose weight is if you quit trying." Kim Benson
radiochick

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Posted: 12 Sep 2013, 23:15
Rch: as one of the commentors said, the nicotine messes your natural rhythm up. I gained 30lbs over 5 months (2010) when I quit smoking. The last two months I was dieting and it didn't matter... I kept gaining.

That said, if you've lost a lot of weight before (you mentioned losing after a break up) then your body will also be more stubborn. Once you start yo-yo-ing your weight, it gets harder and harder to lose again. At the age of 34, I've yo-yo-ed from 175 to 250... it get's harder.

Here's my advice, if it's not coming off, and you're eating little and exercising hard, then your body is fighting you by slowing down even more. You can show it you're not starving by easing up your calorie deficit. Either eat more, or workout less strenuously.

search for postings on plateaus... You'll see lots of advice.
Cara Lee...

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Posted: 25 Mar 2014, 04:21
i quit smoking last year june and i have picked up 10kgs since then. i have always been small framed and before i quit i was going to the gym. now im eating healthier and still gyming and nothing is changing i cant seem to lose the weight. im always upset because all the clothes that used to fit me dont anymore. i dont know what more to do. i hope you have better luck then meSmile
Andrea Buys

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Posted: 01 May 2014, 06:25
Just joined fatsecret because I am in exactly the same situation. Also gained 10kg from stopping smoking - now 18 months since my last cigarette but will persevere. Everybody says this is the ideal time to lose the weight since your metabolism has now stabilised - well I hope so! I refuse to buy any new clothes until I have lost at least 5kg. This is early days but I am hopefulSmile



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