Eating under recommended calorie intake

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Sokhim

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Posted: 21 Oct 2012, 22:59
What happens? Like today I only had 800. Suppose to be eating about 1500.
Snow833

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Posted: 22 Oct 2012, 01:11
If you are eating lots of veggies,fruits,protein and dairy products then your body still gets all the nutrition it needs. My diet is around 800-1000 calories per day, some days more and it's like that since july. I've lost 46lb. I am in excellent health and have lot's of energy. I exercise every day for at least 1,5 hours. You will probably hear here a lot of comments from people that you need to eat at least 1200 calories per day and even more if you are exercising or your metabolism will slow down. Well you know what? Mine works just fine and seeing their weight tickers they often are at the same weight for months since they are eating too much.
Savaticus

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Posted: 22 Oct 2012, 02:09
Agreed, I didn't really start dropping weight until I went to a diet of high protein and fiber, low everything else. Take your vitamins and drink plenty of water!
pam-u-la

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Posted: 22 Oct 2012, 06:50
AS long as you are healthy and listening to your body it is all good. Some ppl need more calories then others. It really boils down to your body compostiion. Best advice.. eat healthy and drink plenty of fluids.
riocaz

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Posted: 22 Oct 2012, 07:49
Snow883, the problem is you need a certain calorie intake in order to actually produce some hormones and below about 900 a day you are right on the cusp of it. And I say that as someone who has done the same for 100 days (I would also mention that in doing so I have managed to give myself GOUT. I really don't recommend that to anyone!).

It also depends on just how big you are/were to start with. Your profile shows you started at half what I did. So 800cal a day for you would be vastly different to the 800-900cal a day I averaged out at over the past few months! Simply because the bigger you are the more calories you burn just living.

But so long as you are careful. And you listen to your body going below 1000cal a day can be done safely. For short periods! Make sure to take a complete multi-vit/multi-mineral a day just to be sure you are getting everything you need. Don't push yourself to do it for extended periods, it's not worth the health risks. Stagger it with periods of eating more. Or better still speak to your doctor and arrange regular blood tests in the manner so you will know exactly what is happening and know exactly when you need to start pushing upwards.

By the end of my 100days my weight-loss was starting to drop off (2-3lb a week from 7lb a week). When I increased my calorie intake (to between 1200/1500) my weight-loss actually went back up to (averaging at 5.8lb a week). Which given that I was incapable of exercising at that point due to the pain from the gout made me a very happy camper.

Know your own body. If you aren't comfortable, or if you think there is a problem then change things up. Sometimes that will mean eating more and slowing down your weight loss. So long as you achieve your goal does it matter if it takes you a few weeks more? And if you aren't sure about something then talk to a doctor! Internet "experts" are often wrong (and I fully include myself in that).

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Snow833

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Posted: 22 Oct 2012, 09:19
Hi Riocaz I remember looking trough your diet calendar and seeing that you were also on a low calorie diet. I have a memory like an elephant LOL. I personaly am doing the zig-zag diet with 850 cals one day and the other 1050. I feel great and have no health problems, if I would I would change some things off course. Hope you feel better Smile
Snow833

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Posted: 22 Oct 2012, 09:32
I informed myself over wikipedia about gout since you got me thinking LOL
Gout is in strong association with the consumption of alcohol, fructose-sweetened drinks, meat, and seafood. I don't eat much protein: 200gr of chicken, 130gr of ham and 120gr of tuna a week, don't drink alcohol or juices.
The consumption of coffee, vitamin C and dairy products, as well as physical fitness, appear to decrease the risk. This part I am doing so I think I'm safe.
lkhaycook

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Posted: 22 Oct 2012, 13:40
It depends how often you eat below your recommended calorie intake. Eating below your intake as part of intermittent fasting is fine and may be beneficial (google intermittent fasting or go to http://www.johnsonupdaydowndaydiet.com/html/diet-science.html). It is generally stated that women should not go below ~1200 cal over a long period because it interferes with our normal functions-- hormone production, metabolism, etc. (see http://www.livestrong.com/article/439968-how-much-weight-can-you-lose-a-week-on-a-1200-calorie-diet/?utm_source=undefined_R1 and http://www.livestrong.com/article/516462-what-is-the-healthy-amount-of-calories-per-day-to-lose-weight/).
Bookgal1977

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Posted: 26 Oct 2012, 06:58
My advice would be keep your doctor updated on your calorie intake. They'll be able to tell if there's anything going wrong. If the doc is okay with it, then no harm no foul.
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black.wings

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Posted: 27 Oct 2012, 02:15
Um...thats starvation, that is all I have to say. :/
PeeFat

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Posted: 27 Oct 2012, 11:00
Your brain and the rest of your organs needs much more than 800 calories a day to maintain normal body functions. Your only going to hurt yourself in the long run in many ways. Find your BMR and try to maintain that.
lornaw

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Posted: 27 Oct 2012, 11:09
I went on VLCDs as a youngster, and now my BMR--my resting metabolic rate, all the time--is now 1080, even with a lot of muscle mass from weightlifting. (been tested twice, and that's actually the higher number) That means if i want to be a couch potato, I get to eat 1300 calories a day to maintain a desired weight. If I eat the normal 2000 calories a day, exercise three times a week, guess what? I get to weigh 200 pounds, and bigoted strangers sneer at me and think me a pig and lazy and so on, sometimes throw things out their car windows at me as they yell insults when I'm on a walk...when in fact I'm likely eating less than they.

It's your body, but if I could go back and slap sense into the younger me, I'd try to explain this to her. If you have the genetics to get fat, you also have the genetics to permanently lower your metabolic rate, and eating so little may well be consigning yourself to permanent fatness or permanent hunger to stay average (forget thin). Get the 1500 every day, or even more. If you weren't hungry, it could be a sign that your metabolism is slowing. Make up for it with a 2000 day.
Gunnamenta

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Posted: 27 Oct 2012, 18:11
I guess the other question is whether the diet is a for now diet or a for life diet.There is no way that very low calorie intake can be healthy long term but if it is a means to a short term end then make the decision based on the results you are obtaining. If you are looking to re-educate your body into a longer term diet change then a more calorific and slower weight loss would make more sense. As someone said above listen to you body and when its no longer working for you try something different.
'Life's a long song'............Ian Anderson (Jethro Tull)
Diablo360x

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Posted: 27 Oct 2012, 22:20
black.wings wrote:
Um...thats starvation, that is all I have to say. :/


Get out with your fear mongering. Tell that to a kid ACTUALLY starving in Africa. Starvation takes much more drastic measures.
Love your food or risk failure. No quick fixes, this is a lifestyle change. No extremes are needed just consistency.
Snow833

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Posted: 28 Oct 2012, 02:40
Diablo is right by the way. The anorexic girls are starving them selfs also. What I see in their diet calendars is frightening. The people who follow the low calorie diet that is around 800 calories actually eat. I really watch how much vitamins, calcium, iron etc I get in and take some suplements also. There are some days that I eat more but then I exercise a lot more also. All in all I don't have that much more to lose and after that you are not getting rid of me since I'm staying on fat secret LOL
Lornaw I don't know how old you are but with older people their metabolism slowes down naturaly, especially in menopause for women. Off course you need to exercise 5 times a week and watch what you eat to not gain weight. That is what I'm planning to do for the rest of my life.
Ingria

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Posted: 28 Oct 2012, 12:29
The problem with low calorie/lots of exercise approach is that it is not sustainable in the long run. Have been there, done it. This is exactly how i ended up weighting 192 lb a year ago at the age of 48. Your body adupts to whatever you give it and starts storing every extra calorie. Any time you slip - illness when you cannot exercise, stress at work or at home, when you cannot control your life, even that tiny amount of extra food you had when you went to your friend's birthday party, and you end up gaining weight while eating around 850 calories a day and exercising. I was under the impression for years that i only lose weight when i eat at 800 or bellow and exercise at least 1 hour a day. Ended up gaining 3-4 lb a year on average. This year changed my approach completely, and concentrated on repairing my metabolism, balancing my hormones and working with my body, not forcing it into a weight loss mode. Cannot say that everything went exactly as i planned (too many things that i could not control in my life) but i lost 15 lb and kept it off (which is more important) by eating much more than i used to eat for years, and exercising less. I understand that for some of you, that weight loss might seem like nothing, but for me it was a proof that you can lose weight without eating at 800 calories and spending every spare moment you have exercising.
So you have to decide for yourself what is more important - your weight now, or your weight in the future. Because, yes it slows down with age, rgardless of where your starting point is, and always eating under 800 calories and exercising several hours a day at 50 is not compatible with normal life style (unless of course you do not have family, career, other hobbies, etc). Just a little bit of personal history - FS is not my first attempt at calorie counting, so don't think that my diet calendar is all my life story, it is more like lessons lerned, i did not start eating low calories on purpose, i was not a big eater when young, and did not start gaining weight until well into mid 30-s.
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PeeFat

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Posted: 28 Oct 2012, 13:51
Ingria, that was well stated. Like I said in an earlier post... eating that low will back fire in the long run and you will pay for it.

You know and I know. Wisdom comes with age and life experience. Some will take heed and some won't. Not much we can do but hope they make the right decision.
lornaw

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Posted: 29 Oct 2012, 09:20
I totally get your experience, ingria. Hang in there, and keep telling the truth--maybe not many youngsters will listen, but the truth has to be told.
Snerdley

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Posted: 29 Oct 2012, 10:31
What happens? Your body doesn't haven't enough to function, you lose muscle mass and you really screw up your metabolism. Your body thinks it is starving, so it slows down your metabolism. So when you start eating a normal amount of food, your body stores fat faster.Ask anyone who has been on a very strict diet, like those shake diets.. the fat comes on much faster when you stop.
back2128

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Posted: 29 Oct 2012, 15:37
I am there. Skinny all my life then gained weight after menopause, panicked and went on HCG diet... of course, I lost the weight but gained it back, plus 10. Now my metabolism is so screwed up, so now I gain weight at the drop of a hat and cannot lose. I'm tempted to go back on a drastic diet because that's the only way I've lost weight. I don't know how to repair my metabolism. Any words of wisdom?Sad
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