explaining what you eat!

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pam-u-la

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Posted: 26 Aug 2012, 06:34
This topic was brought up last night by my best friend while sitting eating my bean burger and pretty proud of my creation. He stated that I did not need to eat this way. Apparently he does not understand that giving up meat,eggs, and dairy is a choice that I have made, and have decided to stick to.

How do you explain to others your eating style? Is it correct to say that it's a choice we have made? Why do people who do not need to watch what they eat judge?
Snow833

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Posted: 26 Aug 2012, 07:40
Are you a vegan? I could never give up dairy, meat and eggs are in alot of food.
cindylynnwho

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Posted: 26 Aug 2012, 08:07
I am vegan. More flexible about it than I used to be, but mostly vegan. I get confused when people ask me if such and such is one that I "can" eat. I can eat whatever I want- but there are some things I chose not to eat. I have been vegan on and off for many years and have found it has expanded my possibilities rather than condensed them as I have learned about so many wonderful new plant foods. The exception is when I am in certain restaurants or other places where the meal is dictated by others' tastes. Then it can be hard. I'm more flexible than I used to be so that I am not forced to choose between going hungry and avoiding or complicating social situations.
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pam-u-la

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Posted: 26 Aug 2012, 08:47
Snow833: yes I am a vegan, not a strict one but follow the vegan plan. The foods you listed were no trouble for me to give up at all! Dairy - I"m lactose intolerant. Meat - I do not like the texture or taste or how I feel afterwards, eggs were not a favourite thing! So it made sence to follow a vegan path.
Snow833

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Posted: 26 Aug 2012, 13:21
I have a friend that is a vegetarian and because of that her in-laws don't like her and think that she's crazy. Her husband and his parents are feeding her child meat even though she doesn't like that. Now just imagine if she was vegan LOL
stoppingthec...

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Posted: 26 Aug 2012, 15:30
I have been lacto-ovo vegetarian most of my life. I tried going back to eating meat for awhile, and found that I just didn't feel right. I learned to cook meat for my husband, and in turn he has learned to make a few fantastic vegetarian dishes. As for our son, we offer him meat, but don't expect him to eat it all the time. When he is older and can read his own body better, I'll let him decide.

But back to your question... If someone asks, I simply tell them I feel better when I don't eat meat. I don't get into a socio-political debate about it, my response is honest and simple.
cerobit

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Posted: 26 Aug 2012, 16:35
Wow, what a response from your friend, "You don't have to eat that way".

Wtf, of course one doesn't have to eat 'that way', what a knucklehead! I adore meat. I'd eat meat every meal, if I thought it was beneficial, but I don't, so I eat it maybe half a dozen times a week, at the most. I try for natural, lean cuts, and limit portions. Most of the time, lol.

I also like many vegan/vegetarian meals. When I was a grad student, I'd often grab lunch at the campus square, where the local Hare Krishna had a lunch stand. The vegan grub was GOOD and CHEAP, just great for a student. And they didn't mind if I was out of cash, still invited me to get grub. I have'nt forgotten that, and offer my services to their places for free or very reduced prices.

My cuz is a professed "laissez faire" vegetarian. When good fish is offered do her, she'll certainly take advantage, lol.
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kstubblefiel...

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Posted: 27 Aug 2012, 00:42
I don't find myself in that position often, but that's mostly due to the fact that I keep my guidelines for intake pretty flexible & make changes according to how I feel. Most days I feel like eating light, so I do. Other days I feel like indulging in stuff I don't usually eat, so I do. If I'm at some kind of event or occasion & am eating selectively, it's because that's what I feel like doing so if someone asked, that's what I'd tell them.

Even if I had ethical reasons for eating or not eating certain foods, I wouldn't feel obligated to explain that to anyone, even if they asked. How & what I eat is my business & how someone else might feel about it is their problem, not mine.

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cindylynnwho

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Posted: 27 Aug 2012, 08:38
Good point, kstubblefield. I no longer let on to any ethical reasons behind my diet, because way too many people have asked me about the topic just to fight with me about it. I am going to take your philosophy and not feel guilty for dodging their questions based on the fact that it is none of their business anyway! btw, love your before and after profile pic!
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SouizZea

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Posted: 29 Aug 2012, 19:19
I'm starting to think that peoples' beliefs about food and diet are as sensitive as their beliefs about religion. Everyone is different and some people seem very passionate about what they are eating. So when the topic of diet comes up, I tend to act the same way as when the subject of religion comes up; I am interested in what you have to say and I respect your beliefs. I hope to expect the same from you.
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Posted: 29 Aug 2012, 19:59
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pam-u-la

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Posted: 30 Aug 2012, 06:29
Behind my way of eating lays no ethical issues.
I actually make a joke that I have so many ppl in my life that eat "cow" that I have no problem wearing the hides left behind. Most people find that a funny statement, and personally so do I.
triaby

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Posted: 30 Aug 2012, 06:39
I will be honest I could eat t-bone steak for breakfast, lunch and dinner, if money or weight were not an issue.....imagine all the shoes Pam2!!!

But I think some eating is a personal choice and should be respected like everything else in life. While other ways of eating is not a choice - I am also lactose intolerant - I think most people think I'm just being fussy, but I don't really care I know what my body likes and what things make it feel well and what makes it feel unwell and stick with it. If people don't like it....look away....

Anyway, I would sooner watch someone eat a veggie burger than a macdonalds....hell I would sooner eat a veggie burger than eat a macdonalds!!!

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corinnas54

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Posted: 30 Aug 2012, 07:05
SouizZea wrote:
I'm starting to think that peoples' beliefs about food and diet are as sensitive as their beliefs about religion. Everyone is different and some people seem very passionate about what they are eating. So when the topic of diet comes up, I tend to act the same way as when the subject of religion comes up; I am interested in what you have to say and I respect your beliefs. I hope to expect the same from you.


I agree. I was vegan for a few years and think that mostly people argued/became defensive or critical because they felt that if I touted ethical reasons for my diet I was somehow judging them for theirs and finding them lacking (which of course was not true). But, I think that is the most common reason for people commenting or arguing with vegetarians...they somehow feel like their actions (eating meat) are being attacked and they have to defend themselves. I think that is too bad, becuase that was never my intention.
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Posted: 30 Aug 2012, 08:49
Glad I found this post. I'm about to try a different WOE and was worried about what my co-workers were going to say about my lunches. I had a lot of back lash when I started Atkins and I just don't want to be criticized for the way I choose to eat. I guess, "Because it's my choice." is probably the best response I can come up with.
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riocaz

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Posted: 30 Aug 2012, 09:48
corinnas54 wrote:
But, I think that is the most common reason for people commenting or arguing with vegetarians...they somehow feel like their actions (eating meat) are being attacked and they have to defend themselves.


Or possibly because they had been on the other end of an evangelical vegetarian/vegan once too often...
I once worked with a woman who was and would continually pick on people eating meat with pithy comments.

And for a few years afterwards after working with her I had to remind myself that someone mentioning they were veggie/vegan wasn't a prelude to another torrent of abuse.

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lisakp71

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Posted: 30 Aug 2012, 09:55
Yep, I think a cheerful "I eat it because I like it!" or "I love this food!" goes a long way to keeping the fuss to a minimum - what are they going to say, "no you don't"?! Smile
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Posted: 31 Aug 2012, 09:27
Anyone who is "mostly vegan" or "on a vegan diet" isn't actually vegan. To be vegan you must actually care about animals and how they are treated. Vegetarians don't care about animals because they still contribute to the rape and murder of millions of cows by consuming dairy, and people who consume eggs are routinely stripping chickens vital nutrients that they need to survive and live every day, as well as condoning to the grinding murder of all male baby chicks. Don't consider yourself vegan unless you actually are. It makes a joke out of the people who actually care what they are consuming. And to most vegans, vegetarianism is equally as bad as eating meat, so why bother. I don't have to explain what I eat to anyone, usually I am the one asking them to explain why they are eating carcasses that are directly linked to heart disease. It doesn't matter if it's "lean" or fatty, it's still murder. and disgusting. I welcome anyone to ask me about my diet. I love explaining why I have adopted a vegan diet, personally, it's just usually the vegetarian or meat eater on the other end that doesn't want me reminding them of their disgusting, selfish dietary habits.
riocaz

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Posted: 31 Aug 2012, 09:31
My point made I think... Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes

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Down from 60" waist jeans since June 21st 2012.

Still keeping to my 26" jeans, but they are too tight for comfort. too many tasty things in the US, and over Xmas.

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pam-u-la

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Posted: 31 Aug 2012, 11:48
Ms. Juliannaharl.. so with your point does that mean that resaurants that claim to be vegan should not have leather seats.
I DO EAT IN A VEGAN manner, however it is for health reasons and not ethical.
Everyones beliefs are different and some people are just more passionate then others about them.
So cheers to you.



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