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worm2butterf...

Joined: Aug 12
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Posted: 10 Aug 2012, 22:36
Hi Everyone,
I'm in the pre-op phase of RNY (gastric bypass) surgery prep. I have 6 months of dieting to do before I'll be OK'd to have the surgery. I'm looking for anyone that is either in the same situation I am in or have gone through the surgery already. I'm been overweight my entire life and have failed repeatedly on diets and now that I'm almost 50, health issues have cropped up making my life rather difficult to live. My doctor has suggested for a few years about getting the surgery done and I finally have come to the realization that I don't have much choice. I've been on the new diet for almost a week and things are going well so far. I'm very determined to lose as much weight as possible prior to surgery so that I won't be as big of a surgical risk. Hope to hear from someone soon.Confused
Julie

12/09/12-----------------7/22/13
Weight 317-----------------259.7 lbs
Bust 52.5 inches---------47 inches
Waist 55 inches-----------46 inches
Hip 62 inches-----------53 inches
kingkeld

Joined: Sep 09
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Posted: 11 Aug 2012, 13:33
Doing Fatsecret will most likely help you lose the weight you need for the surgery. But honestly - why stop there. I too have been offered the surgery, due to extreme obesity. However, I opted to find a "better" solution and simply lose the weight. Using fatsecret, I have fully accomplished this, which I had never in a million years thought I would.
I hope that you reach your goal, but I honestly also hope that you will reconsider once you realize how easy it is to do this WITHOUT the surgery.
Feel free to add me as a buddy, if you like. Hopefully buddies and your time spent here will inspire you to reach your goals.
I wish you a pleasant weight loss journey.

Visit my website: www.tabdig.info

"Losing weight is never about eating as little as possible"
- Kingkeld.
"You wouldn't worry so much about what others think of you if you realized how seldom they do.
― Eleanor Roosevelt
"Do. Or do not. There is no trying."
- Master Yoda.

I went from morbidly obese to being the owner of TABDIG - a weight loss coaching service that helps people worldwide losing weight. It's been an amazing journey. From October 4th 2010 to April 3rd 2012 I lost half my body weight - 80 kilos/170 lbs. Since then, I have had two cosmetic surgeries to remove excess skin. I have now quadrupled my strength, gained several kilos in muscle mass, and today I focus on building muscle, optimizing my diet, living healthy and helping people to reach the very same goals. I am stronger, healthier, thinner, happier! If you feel that you need help losing weight, don't hesitate to send me an inbox message.
worm2butterf...

Joined: Aug 12
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Posted: 11 Aug 2012, 20:07
Hi Kingkeld,
I'm open to forgetting about the surgery, but it will depend on how things are going when that time comes. I have a 6-8 month waiting period which I'm thankful for. Big problem that I see, is that I've done mentoring type of weight loss programs before (weight watchers, overeaters anonymous, etc.) and I've been successful for a time and then end up more overweight than ever before. I'm just a little bit doubtful about my own ability to be successful without the surgery on a long term basis. I would love to be proven wrong and this time with fat secret is a good chance for me to try again. My wish is the same as yours for me. I really would rather not go under the knife, but health issues will make it a requirement if I want to live a long life if not successful this last time. I would love any encouragement anyone can give me.
Julie

12/09/12-----------------7/22/13
Weight 317-----------------259.7 lbs
Bust 52.5 inches---------47 inches
Waist 55 inches-----------46 inches
Hip 62 inches-----------53 inches
teskandar

Joined: Oct 10
Posts: 24

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Posted: 11 Aug 2012, 20:46
I understand your reluctance to believe in yourself and try another diet after so many failures (been there too), and of course you must do what is best for your health. Sometimes just one more try is the one that sticks. Checking in with this website once a day if you can manage and reading other peoples struggles and successes can help keep you going. I wish you the best of luck and if there is anything I can do to help please ask. We are all in this together, one day at a time. Smile
bonthronm

Joined: Jul 12
Posts: 9

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Posted: 12 Aug 2012, 01:17
Much agreed. I also know how hard it is with a starting weight of 321. I thought to myself I wanted the weight loss surgury because I didnt believe in myself either and was depressed that I would always be over weight. I am prod to say my buddies on here have help me to lose 12 lbs so far and I am more motivated then ever. I wish you the best and also if you want you can add me to your buddy list. The more support the better. No matter what your decision is we be there for you.Smile
Lolly
kingkeld

Joined: Sep 09
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Posted: 12 Aug 2012, 05:18
Julie, I fully understand where you're coming from. You have every right to be reluctant. In the end, it's YOUR decision, your life. All I am saying is that I hope that you will have an open mind towards NOT doing the surgery if you see that you can do without it.
I know several people who's done the surgery and what they go through the rest of their lives seem (to me) much harder than what I've gone through to lose the weight.
It's my experience that many people get so focused on the surgery that they don't realize that they're doing great on their weight loss and that they could EASILY just keep going and lose the rest of the weight.
In the end, it's your decision. Smile

Visit my website: www.tabdig.info

"Losing weight is never about eating as little as possible"
- Kingkeld.
"You wouldn't worry so much about what others think of you if you realized how seldom they do.
― Eleanor Roosevelt
"Do. Or do not. There is no trying."
- Master Yoda.

I went from morbidly obese to being the owner of TABDIG - a weight loss coaching service that helps people worldwide losing weight. It's been an amazing journey. From October 4th 2010 to April 3rd 2012 I lost half my body weight - 80 kilos/170 lbs. Since then, I have had two cosmetic surgeries to remove excess skin. I have now quadrupled my strength, gained several kilos in muscle mass, and today I focus on building muscle, optimizing my diet, living healthy and helping people to reach the very same goals. I am stronger, healthier, thinner, happier! If you feel that you need help losing weight, don't hesitate to send me an inbox message.
happihart

Joined: Oct 10
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Posted: 12 Aug 2012, 06:04
Hi Julie, one of the greatest gifts we have as human beings is the ability to choose. Give youself the 6 months to lose the weight you need and then re-assess ....if it works then maybe you will want to go another 6 months. I do know that with the surgery you still have to eat healthy and exercise...it's not a free ride. I wish you great success with whatever you chose to do
jsfantome

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Posted: 12 Aug 2012, 06:50
Hey Julie - So glad you joined FS - and welcome!! You should find lots of support here to help you in as many ways as you are willing to ask or receive help!

I'll be honest, I don't know alot about 'gastric bypass' - as I only know one person who has actually had this surgery. So - I went on the Mayo Clinic's website and read about it. Particularly read about what you actually eat - AFTER - the surgery. I was curious.

OH MY HEAD! Talk about a massive LIFE CHANGER!

You obviously have a long road ahead of you. But then time is going to go by whether you are dieting or not...or whether you have surgery or not. Either way...you are going to have to CHANGE - and change is hard!

It's hard for all of us, no matter how much or little we have to lose.

But these will become permanent changes - ones that completely begin to transform your thinking, and your body - of course, over time...if you let them.

I would bet that this is one of the reasons the 'many diets' you've tried before did not stick. It's very common for people to revert back to the random or occasional item they used to eat before...and eventually...this becomes the norm again. Well, according to what I read...THIS WILL NOT BE THE CASE with the surgery, or you will end up hurting yourself.

Considering all the restrictions, and the lean protein/low fat way of eating you will be undertaking... do you think that you could experiment with those same dietary guidelines and start making these changes now during the pre 6-8 month period?

I noticed on your journal you mentioned how it's getting easier to reduce the sugar cravings by reducing your sugar intake or eliminating it. This is a great start. Eliminating higher / processed carbs will help you greatly. And you will become accustomed to feeling in control of your food choices. Use the food tracker here faithfully - ask questions, (like you have) - regularly - and let people know what you are struggling with so they can try to help.

I wish you the best. And hope you can find your way in the next 6-8 months to see that if you can make ALL of these changes in advance of this surgery...and you are losing weight...you might just want to push things out for another 6 months, and keep going on your own. If you make all of these changes and get to the 'surgery' time and feel confident this is the right choice for you...then I wish you nothing but the best!

Much Love.
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rhonda_777

Joined: Jul 12
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Posted: 12 Aug 2012, 08:07
I cannot say that I'm a candidate for weight loss surgery even though I'm about 100 pounds over weight, but I've found eating low calorie foods and recording them helps tremendously! Eating lots of fruits and veggies is the key to keeping full! Bad food choices leave me hungry. Just record and have a determination even on a bad day, as we all have them. As of today I've lost 21 pounds. I was discouraged the past few weeks and then looked at the foods I was eating and found I needed to push veggies and fruit more. They also provide plenty of fiber. The weeks I ate badly I was .... Well the plumbing wasn't working well! Lol good luck to you! You can do this! Just work through the plateaus and reevaluate food choices as you go.
rhonda_777

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Posted: 12 Aug 2012, 08:08
Even though I'm not having weight loss surgery, if u want u can add me. I'm in about 2 months.
freemind74

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Posted: 12 Aug 2012, 09:07
Good luck to you, which ever way you go.

I had a step sister that did the gastric bypass surgery. She too had tried diets and it didn't seem to work. Looking from the outside in, it seemed to me she wasn't 100% comitted to these diets she was doing. Cheated here and there, and IMO, led to her failure to make the diet work.

She had the surgery, and what she could eat was dramatically changed. No more sugars and refined carbs, no more eating lots at a sitting. She could only eat a portion about the size of a hotdog at a time. She RAPIDLY lost weight. Skin was very loose. It couldn't catch up and shrink to her weight loss. She then went back in for another surgery to cut her loose skin off. When all was said and done, about two years later, she looked good. She wasn't skinny, but she wasn't overweight anymore either.

Fast forward ten years, and she is about 3/4 the size she was pre-surgery. She again now eats the things that made her sick in the begining (sugars and carbs). She now is back to eating large portions.

I tell you this, not because I am tring to scare you off the surgery.It's your personal choice. But I tell you because I want to share that the surgery isn't the real answer, IMO. Dedication, will power, and taking control IS the secret to sucess. You must arm yourself with knowledge, and seek help where you need it. Perhaps it's therepy, perhaps it's neutrition, perhaps it's even just support from people who have walked in your shoes.

Most of all, you need to hold yourself accountable and dedicate the rest of your life to this. This site isn't about "dieting" it's truely about a lifestyle change. There are MANY tools here to help you along your journey.

Even with the surgery, you'll need dedication to the new lifestyle, or it too can and will fail.

Again, good luck Julie. I wish you the best and all the sucess.
joeys1980

Joined: Aug 12
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Posted: 12 Aug 2012, 16:40
Hi im recently new to this, i've not had the bypass but i have had a band and have lost 99lb to date. Im looking out for new friends so if u want to add me then u can Smile x
worm2butterf...

Joined: Aug 12
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Posted: 12 Aug 2012, 20:39
Everyone that replied,
Thanks for all your words of encouragement. I will keep an open mind to the surgery decision. I definitely know it's not a free ride. There are a few reasons why I'm considering it seriously now---My health first and foremost and I felt the bypass surgery side effect of dumping syndrome would be a very good reason for me to avoid sugars. Negative reinforcement works wonders. I hate feeling ill and I know that the first time something makes me ill, I would avoid it. Freemind kind of makes me question the surgery more because I don't want to go through something this major if I can't keep the weight off. I'm successful dieting if I can stay away from the sugar and simple carbs. The big issue is STAYING AWAY from them. The next 6-8 months will be very interesting. Thanks again everyone. Julie
Julie

12/09/12-----------------7/22/13
Weight 317-----------------259.7 lbs
Bust 52.5 inches---------47 inches
Waist 55 inches-----------46 inches
Hip 62 inches-----------53 inches
kingkeld

Joined: Sep 09
Posts: 1,995

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Posted: 13 Aug 2012, 01:10
Julie, we'll be here cheering you on! Enjoy the journey - I hope it'll be as fun and positive for you as it has been for me. Smile

Visit my website: www.tabdig.info

"Losing weight is never about eating as little as possible"
- Kingkeld.
"You wouldn't worry so much about what others think of you if you realized how seldom they do.
― Eleanor Roosevelt
"Do. Or do not. There is no trying."
- Master Yoda.

I went from morbidly obese to being the owner of TABDIG - a weight loss coaching service that helps people worldwide losing weight. It's been an amazing journey. From October 4th 2010 to April 3rd 2012 I lost half my body weight - 80 kilos/170 lbs. Since then, I have had two cosmetic surgeries to remove excess skin. I have now quadrupled my strength, gained several kilos in muscle mass, and today I focus on building muscle, optimizing my diet, living healthy and helping people to reach the very same goals. I am stronger, healthier, thinner, happier! If you feel that you need help losing weight, don't hesitate to send me an inbox message.
michiekyaram...

Joined: Feb 12
Posts: 1

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Posted: 13 Aug 2012, 09:27
Hi Julie,

My old boss got the same surgery when she was around 37. After that for about 1.5 years, she was believed to die by everybody for her infection, poor diet and her mental problem. She got a lot of therapy before the surgery to get PPO insurance coverage but apparently nothing helped her. Really, she looked like a ghost! She admitted ER at least 5 times as far as I know. Finally she was ordered the medical leave for 2 months and basically, she lost her job. When she came back to work, she told us she couldn't remember...short-term memory loss.
Anyway, I don't say everybody who got the same surgery would be like this but please, please be careful. After surgery, you still need to eat to heal your body. Eat what is rich in nutrition and go slow. This will be a good chance to change your diet completely. Start over with your new "baby stomach".

Good luck!

Michie
Katred12

Joined: May 12
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Posted: 13 Aug 2012, 11:43
Hi-
I hope FS works for you too. I understand that you want your health and the you need to lose no matter what. It's hard for me to be supportive of the surgery but my sis-in-law did it just a few months ago. It's not easy for her, but she also wants her health. I support her as much as I can.
If you can do it without the surgery it will be easier.
FS is a true miracle for me. You can keep track of exactly what you eat and see what encourages your weight loss or makes you gain.
I have had the wonderful support of so many here, the people here are great! If I goof up they have showed me I'm human, not an idiot( well, most of the time Smile ) and they encourage me to get right back up and keep going. Not directly always, sometimes, but through their journal writing and their diets. I don't go Gungho all the time, I can't, I've tried, but I keep going, for me that is the key.
I know that FS has been a turning point for me. I can see how well these other guys do, my diet plan or theirs, and that it's not easy but doable.
Good luck and you can buddy me if you like!

Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry, and narrow-mindedness. - Mark Twain

Katred12
Jsaved97

Joined: Aug 12
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Posted: 13 Aug 2012, 11:48
Hello Julie

I have had to friends that had the gb and one passed away less than 2 yrs after the surgery and my other friend has been hospitalized twice and is still having complications. I myself have have thyroid problems that caused me to gain 120lbs. I have lost 60lbs this year and it feels great. I can only hope that you reconsider this surgery and find a program that works for you. I have family members that have used the hcg injections with physicians supervision and this has worked great for them. Also following a low sugar/carb diet does work. Please watch the movie "fat, sick, and dying". It's available on Netflix. It inspired me to fight thru my obesity and disease. I will pray for your success and health. God bless you.

Best regards,

Jose
MaineDonna

Joined: Jul 12
Posts: 10

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Posted: 13 Aug 2012, 16:46
I had the BP surgery 6 years ago and lost 150 lbs,I didn't have any real medical problems. My problem is that I let those old habits slip back in. I would take a small bite of say ice cream,oh that didn't hurt me, but the next time a little more. Well I have put back 60 lbs. I am doing the Atkins diet now and have lost 19 in the 4 weeks that I have been doing it. It does take commitment either way you choose,it really does have to be a life time change. Hang in there we are all here to help.
worm2butterf...

Joined: Aug 12
Posts: 93

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Posted: 13 Aug 2012, 20:40
You all have given me a lot to think about. I know people who have had the surgery and are doing great and wouldn't change their decision and I also know people who have had complications. There is no guarantee which group I will fall into. I know they talk about the surgery being a weight loss tool to help you loose weight, but you still have to put in the work. My mind is not completely made up and I still have my behavioral evaluation on 8/20/12 and I'm hoping that will give me some insight into why I do what I do as far as food goes.
Julie

12/09/12-----------------7/22/13
Weight 317-----------------259.7 lbs
Bust 52.5 inches---------47 inches
Waist 55 inches-----------46 inches
Hip 62 inches-----------53 inches
tlmiller2971

Joined: Dec 08
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Posted: 14 Aug 2012, 14:13
I am 6 months out from VSG and am 2 lbs away from my 1/2 way... 89.5 lbs gone 93.5 lbs to go. I wouldn't change my decision for anything. I have had a 2 week slide since I've been able to enjoy cocktails with my friends again, but the realization that wasn't worth it got my attention quickly and I'm back at it.



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