How late is too late to eat dinner??

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davidswife16

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Posted: 28 Jun 2012, 15:21
Question My family is very active. We have, it seems, something going on every night of the week. I have one child that plays soccer and one that plays softball. I too play softball in a church league and we attend church every Wednesday evening. My question is how late is too late to eat dinner? I have been doing really well at watching what I eat and working out but I am continuing to put on weight this week opposed to losing. I am wondering if this is because we don't eat dinner until 8:00 pm or later on church nights?? HELP!
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Posted: 28 Jun 2012, 21:29
Meal timing and nutrient partitioning are both largely a function of personal preference and do not have a direct effect on body weight or composition.
Calories in v calories out are the sole contributor to body weight while macro sufficiency regulate body composition
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schmetterlin...

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Posted: 29 Jun 2012, 05:53
I have most of my dinners between 8-9 pm, sometimes later depending what time I get home. As long as you don't underestimate what you eat, you will be fine!
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Posted: 29 Jun 2012, 06:24
When people suggest that you not eat after a certain time each night, they have one of two things in mind:

1. People tend to do well during the day, then start snacking and eating badly in the evenings. If you don't allow yourself to snack, you avoid that.

2. They misunderstand how the body works when it comes to digesting food. They think that since you're less active at night, you won't burn the calories you eat. That's a great myth of dieting.

Eat whenever works best for you and your body.
holfraz

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Posted: 29 Jun 2012, 07:00
I have read that you should eat supper early enough to allow your body a 12 hr. fast before eating breakfast. This way your body has enough time to burn a little fat during that time.
harrismargar...

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Posted: 29 Jun 2012, 07:19
I agree with Hoser, its not the timing that is important for your dinner it’s the number of calories you are consuming and the amount of workout you do throughout the day to burn those calories.
BlueWaterBot...

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Posted: 29 Jun 2012, 07:26
I routinely eat between 8-9 in the evening myself. I think Hoser is correct about what the motivation is behind the don't-eat-late rule. If you are eating a proper meal and not just filling up on empty calories, I think it is better to eat late than not at all.
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Posted: 29 Jun 2012, 08:18
The only issue with eating dinner too late is that after a certain point you have to call it breakfast.

holfraz wrote:
I have read that you should eat supper early enough to allow your body a 12 hr. fast before eating breakfast. This way your body has enough time to burn a little fat during that time.

You're reading the wrong stuff. Your body burns fat around the clock.

I regularly eat dinner after 9 pm. All that matters is that between your total intake & expenditure you are carrying an average deficit over time, ideally in the 500-1000 calorie range (Net (kcal) in your Diet Calendar). As long as you're doing this, you'll lose weight. If your deficit is too small or too large, you won't get predictable results.

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Marlboro Man

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Posted: 29 Jun 2012, 08:55
BlueWaterBottle wrote:
I routinely eat between 8-9 in the evening myself. I think Hoser is correct about what the motivation is behind the don't-eat-late rule. If you are eating a proper meal and not just filling up on empty calories, I think it is better to eat late than not at all.

empty calories?
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vmango

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Posted: 29 Jun 2012, 09:30
Hoser is right. It doesn't matter when you eat. Calories in and calories out.

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Posted: 29 Jun 2012, 11:46
Marlboro Man wrote:
BlueWaterBottle wrote:
I routinely eat between 8-9 in the evening myself. I think Hoser is correct about what the motivation is behind the don't-eat-late rule. If you are eating a proper meal and not just filling up on empty calories, I think it is better to eat late than not at all.

empty calories?


Haha - I knew you were going to jump all over that as soon as I saw it.. To me, empty calories would mean calories that you really don't need.. aka mindlessly chowing down a bag of potato chips while you watch TV just because you're bored, not because you're actually hungry or lacking nutrients that you will get from those chips.


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Hoser

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Posted: 30 Jun 2012, 05:18
Empty calories are calories that have no appreciable nutrition value. Chips, pretzels, soda, candy, and Twinkies all fit into this category.

Eating a healthy, well-balanced dinner at 9 p.m. is no problem. Scarfing down potato chips or ice cream is generally a bad idea.
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Posted: 30 Jun 2012, 06:15
with regards to general health I totally agree with the suggestion that "empty" calories should be avoided. With regards to fat loss it does not matter as long as the calories eaten are less than those consumed empty or not.
Of course it is easier to keep an overall deficit while eating nutritious food rather than junk, but theoretically is perfectly possible to eat all one's meals at KFC and still loose fat.
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Posted: 30 Jun 2012, 08:14
It's not when you eat, but what you eat. Be sure to avoid fats and carbs as much as possible before going to bed, and to load up on protein. Protein before bed will help your body get into a rhythm of burning calories while you sleep, as opposed to carbs which will get turned into sugar and stored in the fat while you sleep. Your choice Wink
GWMcolorado

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Posted: 30 Jun 2012, 08:46
"How late is too late to eat dinner??"

Oh I'd say about 6-7 AM.
paperiniko

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Posted: 30 Jun 2012, 10:04
there is absolutely no scientific evidence for that claim, carbs do not get converted into fats any more than proteins or fats before, during or after sleep as long as the total calories balance is the same.
That's just another myth from the low-carb diet industry
Nimm

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Posted: 30 Jun 2012, 10:41
paperiniko wrote:
there is absolutely no scientific evidence for that claim, carbs do not get converted into fats any more than proteins or fats before, during or after sleep as long as the total calories balance is the same.
That's just another myth from the low-carb diet industry


Greater weight loss and hormonal changes after 6 months diet with carbohydrates eaten mostly at dinner.

Carbs for dinner!
(And no, the study doesn't mean much as it wasn't controlled. But it's fun to cite when the "carbs turn into fat overnight" argument crops up)
GWMcolorado

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Posted: 30 Jun 2012, 11:19
paperiniko wrote:
there is absolutely no scientific evidence for that claim, carbs do not get converted into fats any more than proteins or fats before, during or after sleep as long as the total calories balance is the same.
That's just another myth from the low-carb diet industry


Low-carb diets are also "lower calorie" diets, just like any other. That's the dirty little secret they don't want you to know (says the Atkins dieter, ironically). The goal of any and every diet plan is to get you to eat fewer calories than you expend. I don't eat after 9pm but with Atkins I'm generally not hungry in the late evenings anyway. However if a diet plan says "NEVER eat after 6pm!" or something and that helps you to keep your overall net calories down I don't see a particular problem with that advice.
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Posted: 01 Jul 2012, 00:57
Sometimes I wonder if this argument is not simply based on the fact that if you get up at a reasonable hour, your spacing your meals out too far eating at 9PM. I know for me, my 7AM breakfast, noon lunch, waiting until 9-10 would be very tough.

Also, its wild because other cultures I have visited, Europe (Italy), and the Middle East typically eat at 9-10PM at night. Because of the heat? Because of their different work schedules? Are they obese? (Not yet, but soon!!)

I can accept that it is not a problem for me (to eat late), but I have had "old people" around me for the past 20 years. To them (And now me) eating at 6PM is late. Smile

By 9PM all my diet rules would be tossed out the window, and I would probably have consumed empty calories and assaulted the pizza man.

/Cheers, JP



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