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MzQueenDivaB...

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Posted: 30 May 2012, 07:11
Confused Can anybody tell me if Propel Zero water is good for you. It taste to good and I think it has hidden sugar in it. Plz help!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Confused Confused Confused
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erika2633

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Posted: 30 May 2012, 08:04
There's no such thing as 'hidden sugar.' If you look at the nutrition label of Propel Zero, it shows that there are 0g of sugar in it. The sweetness you are tasting is from artificial sweeteners - whether or not it is "good for you" is a whole different debate. There are going to be people that tell you that artificial sweeteners are the devil and you must avoid them at all costs, and others that say they are just fine. The key will be for you to do your research about them and come to your own conclusion about whether that is something that you want to put into your body.


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bigpete137

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Posted: 30 May 2012, 08:26
is that availible in europe ? never seen them over here.
Erie32

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Posted: 31 May 2012, 09:17
It's a manufactured packaged food product. It's not good for you. It doesn't have hidden sugar it just has artificial sweetener which studies show causes cancer in mice. Stick with water.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20886530
Nimm

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Posted: 31 May 2012, 09:38
Erie32 wrote:
It's a manufactured packaged food product. It's not good for you. It doesn't have hidden sugar it just has artificial sweetener which studies show causes cancer in mice. Stick with water.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20886530


Just because it's a "manufactured packaged food product" does not support the conclusion that it's unhealthy.
If your claim is based only on the presence of aspartame, the counterpoint is that there is no compelling evidence of harmful effects in humans when consumed in amounts that have any realistic possibility of being consumed:

Safety of long-term doses of aspartame
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Safety of long-term administration of 75 mg/kg of aspartame per day was evaluated with the use of a randomized, double-blind, placebo-controlled, parallel-group design in 108 male and female volunteers aged 18 to 62 years. Subjects received either aspartame or placebo in capsule form three times daily for 24 weeks. No persistent changes over time were noted in either group in vital signs; body weight; results of standard laboratory tests; fasting blood levels of aspartame's constituent amino acids (aspartic acid and phenylalanine), other amino acids, and methanol; or blood formate levels and 24-hour urinary excretion of formate. There also were no statistically significant differences between groups in the number of subjects experiencing symptoms or in the number of symptoms per subject. These results further document the safety of the long-term consumption of aspartame at doses equivalent to the amount of aspartame in approximately 10 L of beverage per day.


Another study even found no harmful effects in people with phenylketonuria:
Neuropsychological and biochemical investigations in heterozygotes for phenylketonuria during ingestion of high dose aspartame

Aspartame: Review of Safety (PDF)
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The scientific evaluation of aspartame’s safety has extended well beyond standard safety testing for food additives. When the safety data for aspartame are evaluated as a whole, the weight of scientific evidence is clear that aspartame is safe for its intended uses, and there are no unresolved questions regarding its safety.


Aspartame: Scientific Evaluation in the Post-Marketing Period
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Evaluation of the anecdotal reports of adverse health effects, the first such system for a food additive, revealed that the reported effects were generally mild and also common in the general population and that there was no consistent or unique pattern of symptoms that could be causally linked to consumption of aspartame. Finally, the results of the extensive scientific research done to evaluate these allegations did not show a causal relationship between aspartame and adverse effects. Thus, the weight of scientific evidence confirms that, even in amounts many times what people typically consume, aspartame is safe for its intended uses as a sweetener and flavor enhancer.


Clinical Safety of Aspartame

It's even OK for diabetics:
Aspartame Metabolism in Normal Adults, Phenylketonuric Heterozygotes, and Diabetic Subjects
and
Aspartame Use by Persons with Diabetes

See also:
Aspartame: neuropsychologic and neurophysiologic evaluation of acute and chronic effects



Of course, there are very few substances that are safe for 100% of the population, even in realistic doses, and aspartame is no exception. There's no particular reason to add it to a diet.
However, side effects from massive, unrealistic doses in (just male) mice do not mean that there is any particular risk to humans - as the massive body of research literature demonstrates.

If you don't like aspartame, don't consume it. But claiming adverse health effects in order to discourage others is not justified by the evidence.
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Posted: 31 May 2012, 09:45
whoohoo! thanks for the links to aspartame studies. I have friends that swear up and down how it's gonna kill me. I'm not drinking gallons of diet soda a day.
Katred12

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Posted: 31 May 2012, 10:11
Thank you! I have been seeing for years how artificial sweeteners will kill you or hurt or fry your brain. I have been using artificial sweeteners for 40 years, I must have been going to be a genius. Oh well Wink.
One thing I read is that you should take extra taurine to counter any effects. I do, but that's because I'm over 50 and tuarine production by the liver goes down as you age, or if you eat a low fat diet. Taurine keeps potassium and magnesium inside the cell while keeping excessive sodium out. Taurine is also able to strengthen the heart muscles, lower blood pressure. It tends to inhibit and modulate neurotransmitters in the brain and helps to stabilize cell membranes. It is beneficial to the gall bladders, eyes, blood vessels, and has some antioxidant and detoxifying activities. It's cheap, and good insurance. Google it for the proper information.

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Posted: 01 Jun 2012, 20:44
I drink gallons of diet soda a day and still lost 170lbs in 10 months. on low cal low carb. Don't believe the hype re diet soda. ZERO calories is ZERO calories..
erika2633

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Posted: 14 Jun 2012, 11:58
Yep, I still drink diet pop (probably one a day) and use artificial sweeteners in my coffee (sugar-free creamers/Splenda/etc.). I also drink 'diet' beverages like Vitamin Water Zero and Lifewater Zero.. I'm thinking something else will kill me before the 'evil' Diet Mt. Dew does..


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Tmcaporale

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Posted: 14 Jun 2012, 13:31
For me it really comes down to listening to your body, doing your research, then making a personal choice.

I avoid artificial sweeteners after suffering migraines and experiencing black-outs after consuming them. My body apparently doesn't like to process them and very clearly tells me to quit eating them.

It's important to do the research - 'natural' products can actually have ingredients that are engineered from natural products, like sucralose, and sometimes have the same effect on your body as artificial products. A lesson I learned the hard way - and now I spend a lot of time in the grocery store reading the ingredients on labels!
kngsys

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Posted: 30 Jul 2012, 12:02
Propel Zero does not contain aspartame, it contains sucralos which is Splenda. There is a difference between the two.
sjsrschu

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Posted: 30 Jul 2012, 12:24
I drink multiple diet sodas a day, and I love the propel zero for my water. I buy it as a powder and add it to my water bottles when I don't want plain water. I have never had any problems with it and I believe it is perfectly healthy and as good as drinking plain water. For some people it is the only way they can get the water down because they just don't like water, so I say if it works for you go for it.
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Posted: 23 Jul 2013, 05:34
Mercola.com has articles on many recent peer-reviewed, scientifically executed, independently conducted studies that show the harmfulness of aspartame. There are links to the studies themselves so that you can go read them for yourself rather than depending on his interpretation of them. A very important fact you need to get to know about studies is who conducted them. Our government is not out to protect it's people's health over protecting the profits of the manufacturers. You might find the documentary below to be very informative. And the articles at mercola.com can save you much self-inflicted misery.

http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2013/06/29/sweet-misery-documentary.aspx
eKatherine

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Posted: 23 Jul 2013, 09:13
Nimm wrote:
Erie32 wrote:
It's a manufactured packaged food product. It's not good for you. It doesn't have hidden sugar it just has artificial sweetener which studies show causes cancer in mice. Stick with water.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20886530


Just because it's a "manufactured packaged food product" does not support the conclusion that it's unhealthy.


The fact that a product is not immediately or chronically dangerous to us does not make it healthy. There is a gray area between "healthy" and "unhealthy" where a product that has no health benefits but isn't actually injurious may reside. That's where products like this belong.

If someone wants to limit themselves to real food that is good for them, this isn't it. If they only want to eliminate foods which are proven to be dangerous, they can drink all they want of this.

No one should kid themselves that the word "water" on the label of a bottle that is nothing but a chemical solution makes it a healthy choice. There is no government regulation of the use of that word.
kkd1125

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Posted: 23 Jul 2013, 12:22
An idea:

Last week I ordered a new product called Zing Anything Flavor Infuser Water Bottle. (Still waiting for it to arrive...can't wait to try it!) It's a water bottle that has a compartment at the bottom where you can put in a few pieces of cut up fruit, lemon, herbs, cucumbers, etc. and when you twist the compartment back on to the water bottle it crushes up the ingredients and infuses their flavors into your water. The longer you let it sit, the more flavor you have. The calories are very minor since you're only getting some of the fruit/ingredients up into the water, and the only sugar is the minimal natural fruit sugar in the ingredients that infuse up into the water.

This sounds like it will be fun to try different flavor combinations. I can't stand the overly sweet artificial sweeteners found in products like Propel or Vitamin Smart Water, so I think this will be my new favorite toy.



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