Do I Really Burn That Much?

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coconutprinc...

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Posted: 01 May 2012, 19:15
I've been logging everything I do from sleeping, standing, sitting, walking, working out, etc. and FatSecret says I have burned 3491 calories so far today. If I subtract 1000 calories (to lose 2 lbs a week) that means I would have to eat 2491 calories.

It seems like alot of food doesn't it? Does anyone else record everything like I have and find that it's accurate? Or not accurate?
Hoser

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Posted: 01 May 2012, 19:19
FatSecret's estimates tend to be a bit high.
NCNOLE

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Posted: 01 May 2012, 19:20
Yeah, probably not accurate. I would think if you were burning that much, then you would probably not need to lose any weight! I don't use the calculators on here. I have been told they overestimate. I would not log sleeping, standing, sitting as they don't burn much above your basal metabolic rate.

If you log everything you eat and you are able to lose weight at just under 2500 calories, then I would continue until the weight loss stops.

I am 5'0" and 137.6 lbs (down from just over 200 lbs). I average about 2400-2500 calories burned per day and eat about 1400-1500 calories. I have lost on average just over 1 lb/week. I use a bodymedia fit device that calculates calories burned and that has made all the difference for me. It was $$, but it kept me motivated 24/7.

Hope that helps.
coconutprinc...

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Posted: 01 May 2012, 19:31
Thanks so much. I am 5'2" and 206 lbs trying to get back to somewhere between 120-140 lbs. It did seem high so I'm glad I checked. I was thinking of buying a body bugg but I'm cheap lol
NCNOLE

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Posted: 01 May 2012, 19:59
Yeah, I got it for a good deal at costco.com and it came with a year subscription. But it was still like $160.
Fedaykin

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Posted: 01 May 2012, 22:12
The RDI calculated on this site is very high.

When I got an eval at the start of my diet, I was 6'4" 266+lbs (male) and 31. According to a dietician and trainer, my target was ~2000 calories a day with 3-4 days of moderate exercise. The RDI calculated here was ~2900.

I'd suggest talking to a medical and/or exercise professional or getting something like a body bugg to get a more realistic RDI (everyone is unique!). Otherwise I'd say you could start at about 1800 a day and adjust after a couple weeks for more/less. Absolute min for a female is 1200/day.

Basically, if you don't lose weight after a couple weeks, knock it down more. If you start to feel tired all the time, can't finish workouts, etc. then you're eating too little and need to pick it up.

Be careful! Drink lots of water and eat lots of fiber or weight loss can be hidden and/or it can look like you are gaining weight if you aren't regular and you start getting water retention (which happens if you aren't getting enough water). Also look at a trend over a week or two, day to day fluctuations are common and can be deceiving and discouraging.

I am NOT a medical professional or professional of ANY kind.
Dancer-Desig...

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Posted: 01 May 2012, 23:45
I agree. That was my first thought. I have calculated my RDI for years and this one is a bit higher than what I need to stay the current weight. Certainly too high to lose anything.
coconutprinc...

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Posted: 02 May 2012, 05:17
Thanks so much everyone... I think I will have to invest in a body bugg or the one that NCNOLE mentioned, but for now, I'll stick to 1200-1600 depending on my exercise levels and possibly even 1800 if I am really kicking butt in Dance Central Very Happy
Nimm

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Posted: 02 May 2012, 07:39
coconutprincess wrote:
Thanks so much everyone... I think I will have to invest in a body bugg or the one that NCNOLE mentioned, but for now, I'll stick to 1200-1600 depending on my exercise levels and possibly even 1800 if I am really kicking butt in Dance Central Very Happy


Consider keeping your calorie level somewhat higher - 1200 to 1600 is likely extremely low for you. While it's difficult to determine exactly how many calories we burn on an average day, a quick and dirty rule of thumb that works for the large majority of people is to take in 10-12x your (pounds of) bodyweight in calories per day, in order to maintain a deficit that is aggressive, but not extreme. In your case, if you are 206 lbs, that would be 2060 to 2470 calories per day. In some cases, it's necessary to drop below the lower end of that range to see sustained weight loss, but that is pretty rare.

Maintaining a deficit that's too large can not only have adverse effects on your metabolism and other hormones, but can be extremely unpleasant and hard to sustain - increasing the odds of repeated binging and/or giving up entirely. It is often counterproductive in the long run.

So - consider at least starting out somewhat higher. If it doesn't yield any results after 2 or 3 weeks, you can always adjust downwards later. Treat the process like a jog, not a sprint!

Nic7

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Posted: 02 May 2012, 07:42
I think when you figure out your BMR, it takes things like sitting, standing, walking, etc into account, thats why there is 4 different activity levels. I think that you only add activity if its more than whats in the BMR, like workouts, horse back riding, running, fitness classes, etc. I see it like I ate lunch 500 cal,(BMR) then I had a sandwich, 300 cal,(walking) and a milk 200 cal,(stairs) puts me at 1000 cal, but that food is in my lunch, so you can't count it twice, I'm actually only at 500 cal. very simple example, but hope it makes as much sense as it does in my head.
coconutprinc...

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Posted: 02 May 2012, 11:05
Nimm wrote:
coconutprincess wrote:
Thanks so much everyone... I think I will have to invest in a body bugg or the one that NCNOLE mentioned, but for now, I'll stick to 1200-1600 depending on my exercise levels and possibly even 1800 if I am really kicking butt in Dance Central Very Happy


Consider keeping your calorie level somewhat higher - 1200 to 1600 is likely extremely low for you. While it's difficult to determine exactly how many calories we burn on an average day, a quick and dirty rule of thumb that works for the large majority of people is to take in 10-12x your (pounds of) bodyweight in calories per day, in order to maintain a deficit that is aggressive, but not extreme. In your case, if you are 206 lbs, that would be 2060 to 2470 calories per day. In some cases, it's necessary to drop below the lower end of that range to see sustained weight loss, but that is pretty rare.

Maintaining a deficit that's too large can not only have adverse effects on your metabolism and other hormones, but can be extremely unpleasant and hard to sustain - increasing the odds of repeated binging and/or giving up entirely. It is often counterproductive in the long run.

So - consider at least starting out somewhat higher. If it doesn't yield any results after 2 or 3 weeks, you can always adjust downwards later. Treat the process like a jog, not a sprint!



From what I understand, in order for me to lose 2 lbs a week I have to create a deficit of 1000 calories per day by either eating less or exercising more or both. If my BMR is 2019 per day without exercise, then I'd have to either eat only 1019 per day (which isn't healthy) or decrease 500 cals of food per day and add 500 cals of exercise. That's basically what I'm trying to find out. The BMR online tells me that if I did nothing I'd burn 2019 each day, but I know I'm burning more because I exercise and I'm always on the go with my kids, house cleaning, cooking, etc. but I do also sit and stand as well. I think I will get a device to tell me so that I can see how much I need to adjust in my calories in and calories out. Thanks so much for the info Smile
coconutprinc...

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Posted: 02 May 2012, 11:06
Bkeller1023 wrote:
I agree with what everyone else has said already, but wanted to add some perspective. I have a body media fit as well and find my calorie burn far off from what general calculators tell me. Some things are reasonably on target, such as steady state running at about 6mph. I tend to get calorie burns about 10% less than what a treadmill or online calculator would say.

But, things like stationary bike are WAY off. Biking at 15 mph for an hour on here tells me I burned 700 calories, while the bike itself at 16+mph told me 625 calories, and the body media fit gave me a whopping 300 calorie burn. So, 50%+ error is quite high. If that were consistently my form of exercise (it's not) I would be regularly overstating my calorie burn significantly. It's easy to see how people get frustrated when they're not losing based on calories in vs. calories out.

If you can get a device, I'd definitely recommend it. If not, you just have to just monitor your deficits, and if you don't see the losses you would expect then make some changes in your calories and exercise. Good luck!


Wow I can't believe how off it was! I think I will get the body media device becuase otherwise I will never truly know what I'm burning. Thanks so much!
Nimm

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Posted: 02 May 2012, 11:15
coconutprincess wrote:

From what I understand, in order for me to lose 2 lbs a week I have to create a deficit of 1000 calories per day by either eating less or exercising more or both. If my BMR is 2019 per day without exercise, then I'd have to either eat only 1019 per day (which isn't healthy) or decrease 500 cals of food per day and add 500 cals of exercise. That's basically what I'm trying to find out. The BMR online tells me that if I did nothing I'd burn 2019 each day, but I know I'm burning more because I exercise and I'm always on the go with my kids, house cleaning, cooking, etc. but I do also sit and stand as well. I think I will get a device to tell me so that I can see how much I need to adjust in my calories in and calories out. Thanks so much for the info Smile


Yes, you've got the theory right. And if you don't want the guesswork of how many calories you burn through your daily activity, a BodyBugg or BodyMedia Fit (same product, different label) is probably the best way to go. They're not infallible, but pretty accurate for most people.

Good luck!
sararay

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Posted: 02 May 2012, 12:06
I use this RDI calculator http://www.freedieting.com/tools/calorie_calculator.htm

It even calculates a 7-day zig zag (rotation) calorie plan for you. If you subtract 1500 from the FS totals instead of 1000, it is more accurate to your weight loss needs. At least it seems to be working for me and it agrees with the above RDI calculator and my doctor's recommendations. Smile

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Posted: 02 May 2012, 12:29
Thanks for link Smile
Nimm

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Posted: 02 May 2012, 12:40
sararay wrote:
I use this RDI calculator http://www.freedieting.com/tools/calorie_calculator.htm

It even calculates a 7-day zig zag (rotation) calorie plan for you. If you subtract 1500 from the FS totals instead of 1000, it is more accurate to your weight loss needs. At least it seems to be working for me and it agrees with the above RDI calculator and my doctor's recommendations. Smile


Any and all calculations of total daily calorie burn should be taken with a grain of salt. While resting metabolic rate can be predicted fairly accurately from weight and body fat %, activity level introduces a huge variable for total daily calorie burn that no online calculator will capture with precision. Trial and error or direct measurement are important.

Just by way of example, that calculator underestimated my maintenance calorie level by about 300, even when I selected a higher activity level than I actually have. It could be quite accurate for someone else, though.
Fedaykin

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Posted: 02 May 2012, 13:53
sararay wrote:
I use this RDI calculator http://www.freedieting.com/tools/calorie_calculator.htm

It even calculates a 7-day zig zag (rotation) calorie plan for you. If you subtract 1500 from the FS totals instead of 1000, it is more accurate to your weight loss needs. At least it seems to be working for me and it agrees with the above RDI calculator and my doctor's recommendations. Smile


Nice find. That calculator is fairly in line with what I've been told by professionals. It calculates an absolute min for me (male, 32 6'4" 245) at around 1950/day which matches what a dietician told me.
twaite0928

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Posted: 02 May 2012, 14:29
The calorie cycles are what caught my eye...thank you for posting this, I have it bookmarked now along with other tools...
wassonc

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Posted: 02 May 2012, 14:49
Thanks for the link- I found the calorie zig-zag cycles very helpful- now maybe I can make my scale budge!
CraigC671

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Posted: 02 May 2012, 14:49
Very nice find thanks for the link. It has me at 3000 calories to maintain, 2400 for weight loss and 2032 for extreme weight loss. I've been maintaining 2000 calories so that makes sense to me.



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