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Ggirl69

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Posted: 15 Mar 2012, 08:53
Any input would be appreciated-

I currently weigh 198 which is up a bit over the past week. My lowest was 193 a week or so ago. I work out a lot like and hour of weights every day and either and hour on the eliptical machine or a kick boxing class and 30 minutes on the ellipical every day 7 days a week.

I am counting my calories but yet I do not undestand why I am starting to gain. I am not always good with the diet but typically have a substantial deficit on calories.

Does everybody find that the metabolism calculator and activity calorie burn numbers to be fairly accurate.

Getting frustrated,

CindySad
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lynmc1

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Posted: 15 Mar 2012, 09:25
I would reason to think you are gaining muscle and muscle weighs more than fat. When I had that happen in the past, someone suggested to me that I get a scale that can tell you what percentage of your weight is body fat. I did buy that scale and it does make a huge difference. Say earlier you were 200 lbs with 47% body fat. That would make you 94 lbs fat and 106 lbs of muscle. Now a week later you weigh 198 lbs with 47% body fat. That would make you 93.06 lbs fat and 106.94 muscle. You lost a little of fat and you gained muscle, a good thing! Now a week later you weigh 198 lbs and you are like omg, this is failing. It isn't. You weigh 198 lbs with 46% body fat. That would make you 91.08 lbs fat and 108.92 lbs of muscle. You are making great strides. Keep up the good work!!!

200 47% 94 fat 106 muscle
198 47% 93.06 fat 106.94 muscle
198 46% 91.08 fat 108.92 muscle you lost 2 lbs of fat - yeah!

As you gain muscle, you burn calories faster. Just keep working at it!

Also, something to consider. If you are dieting and eating say 1400 cals a day, day after day, then your body gets used to that. Yes, you are in a deficit, but the metabolism adjusts. Every 4th day up it by 400 calories to shock your body and metabolism. I know how this all works and I can preach, now I gotta practice it. You and I weigh the same - I just noticed that!!! I learned this from Burn the Fat, Feed the Muscle.
paperiniko

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Posted: 15 Mar 2012, 09:29
I think it happens very frequently to everybody. There are a number of very common explanations like water retentions, or muscle development weight varies by definition and I think the shorter the period the higher is the variance. If you are keeping track of your calories and doing exercises there is no reason to get worried for a few pounds more or because the scale has not shown a decrease. Most likely you will notice that you are fitter when you train and when the clothes feel looser.
I think that it is better not to weigh at all for several weeks at a time rather than getting derailed by the normal weight fluctuations.
gnat824

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Posted: 15 Mar 2012, 10:02
If this is over a week period, it's definitely NOT real weight gain- unless you have consumed a calorie surplus of 2,000 cals a day in the past week? It's most likely water weight, which can be caused by sore muscles (especially if this is a new workout program), excess salt, time of month, stress and other internal body cycles. Don't stress the short term fluctations- focus on how your clothes fit, your measurements, how you feel, and the long-term trends.
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JessWhatINee...

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Posted: 15 Mar 2012, 10:44
Water retention for me can fluctuate 5 lbs in a day. There were even a couple of times last fall I gained 14-18 lbs in a week! On meds now.
ChildofHope

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Posted: 15 Mar 2012, 10:55
Yeah this always happens to me when I start working out. I always gain weight. But at the same time, I can tell that I look a little skinnier. I take my measurements now, as a more accurate measure of my progress. Bicep, waist, hips, bust, and thigh.

If you're worried that you're actually getting bigger, I would start by taking your measurements, keep doing what you're doing, then wait a week or two and take them again. That will tell you better than your scale.
lisalou66

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Posted: 15 Mar 2012, 11:19
glad that happens to someone else thought it was just me, i too can fluctuate by about 5lb a day started drinking fennel tea that help rid of excess water.Very Happy
Ggirl69

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Posted: 15 Mar 2012, 12:06
I am doing strength training everyday but alternating the muscle groups so that they can heal. Like one day upper body and the next lower. I am interested in looking into the scale that determines muscle etc. Was it expensive? Thank you for you support. Good to know everyone has this happen.

Thank s again,
Cindy
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Katiekinz

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Posted: 15 Mar 2012, 12:38
As long as you're working a different muscle group every day, there's nothing wrong with strength training 7 days/week. Helewis was just telling me that strength training can cause a water weight gain for up to 6 weeks (hopefully I'm not misquoting). The exercise calculator on here can be a little far-fetched (the ones on machines, too) - when I use it, I don't add in any other activities except the exercise (keeping the remainder at resting or sleeping)... I'd rather underestimate calories burned and see a loss than think I'm burning mega calories during sedentary activities and wonder where I'm going wrong. Just keep it up, track your calories and you're sure to see a loss soon Smile Oh & about the scale - I got a Biggest Loser (Or Weight Watchers, can't remember which) scale at Target that tells me my water weight, muscle mass, etc for $28!! It was a "repackage", but works perfect. They seem to have some decent scale sales ($5-$10 off now & then) on already well-priced models. Good luck!
Ingria

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Posted: 15 Mar 2012, 12:39
Muscles retain more water after intense work out. If you are alternating every day, you still have half of your body retaining extra water from previous work out and half of your body still not getting rid of water from the one the day before. I would look at your progress for 2-3 weeks at least and see if you losing weight gradually (assuming that extra water weight does not change, but fat starts melting eventually).
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Lindsay6384

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Posted: 15 Mar 2012, 13:15
Have you noticed a change in how your clothes fit?
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umdterpsgirl

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Posted: 15 Mar 2012, 14:49
Your sodium intake seems on the high side to me and so you could be retaining water. Aim for no more than 2000 mg of sodium a day. Also, the exercise diary on FS tends to inflate the number of calories so it is very possible you are not at such a high deficit everyday as your diary would reflect. Taking a quick glance at your food diary I think you need to limit your calories more and reduce the amount of pizza, Chinese food and other fast food/processed food that you are eating. Those are all very calorie dense foods, and depending on how accurately you are recording, you may be ingesting more calories than you think. Are the calories recorded from the actual box label/company website or did you just pick "cheese pizza" from the fat secret database? A slice of cheese pizza could have widely different calorie amounts depending on where the pizza is from.

Overall I think you are doing a great job with tracking your food and exercise so keep up that habit! Try to incorporate more vegetables and whole food in your diet and I bet you will see a loss in no time.
Helewis

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Posted: 15 Mar 2012, 15:08
Katie, the six weeks was for people beginning to lift heavy. At that time, muscles hold on to water and, for me, after about 6 weeks, it went away and I began to lose again. I've read the same on the Internet from other people. Good post, Ggirl69 and good responses.
NCNOLE

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Posted: 15 Mar 2012, 15:45
Ok, so I just quickly looked at your diet calendar from yesterday. Did you gain the weight this morning? Your sodium intake yesterday was seriously high and I'm going to question some of your food choices - 4 cups of pasta and meat sauce? That sure sounds like a lot to me. Not trying to be offensive here. The other thing to consider is if these are not homemade then you could be underestimating the calories consumed. Cut out the pasta - try shirataki noodles if you absolutely can't eliminate pasta. I would also probably drop your average caloric intake to 2000 calories or less. Eat more fruits and veggies and you will lose weight.

It's all a learning process and you will find a balance and you will be successful. Keep it up.
Shelm

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Posted: 15 Mar 2012, 21:18
I to bought a WW scale at Target for 28.00...I don't use any of the contraptions gadgets but the scale readout itself so cant tell you how it works.

As far as excersize goes....that stuff will kill ya!......lol
Ggirl69

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Posted: 16 Mar 2012, 08:21
Point taken in regards to the pizza and chinese. LOL I don always eat that terrible. No my weigh is down again to 193. May be it was due to the sodium. Dinner is my weakness. I do pretty well all day long and that is the family meal. I need to get back to measuring better. The pasta was a guesstimate and I am typically harder on my self. I will keep trying and refocus a bit.

Thank you for the advise.
GooberGirl69
umdterpsgirl

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Posted: 16 Mar 2012, 09:21
Ggirl I think you are doing great so keep it up! I wasn't trying to be judgmental with the pizza and Chinese, just wanted to point out an area that might be giving you hang ups. My personal take on this journey is that there is room for pizza, Chinese, pasta and loads of other things some people classify as "no-nos", but you do have to work at limiting those things. Try to only have pizza once a week (or only every two weeks, or once a month). Same for Chinese. Or make the Chinese yourself and you can reduce the number of calories by a lot. Try to avoid the fried items if you are ordering Chinese and go for things that are steamed instead.

And I think pasta can be worked into a calorie counting diet but maybe go for whole grain pasta instead. Another trick I do is I try to add as many veggies as possible when I'm also eating pasta (so I end up eating just a small amount of pasta and am satisfied). Add crushed tomatoes, diced tomatoes, green bell pepper, onion and mushrooms to those pasta dishes to make them a little healthier and more satisfying.
Ggirl69

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Posted: 16 Mar 2012, 16:00
umdterpsgirl No worries I do not feel that you were being judgemental. But you were right LOL.
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Ggirl69

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Posted: 16 Mar 2012, 16:02
Lindsay6384, As of lately no real changes in clothing but I suppose I need to remember that I didn't put the weight on all at once so....

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Ggirl69

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Posted: 16 Mar 2012, 16:05
Katiekinz,
I typically use my sleeping calories and my excersise calories in my tally and leave it at that and figure that it will help with any miscalculations by the software.

Thanks for your input.
GooberGirl69



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