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Milk vs heavy cream...
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Missychick21
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Posted: 10 Oct 2011, 10:28
Why is heavy cream ok when it has 1 carb per Tablespoon but milk isn't when it has 12 carbs in a whole glass? If you were to have 8 ounces of heavy cream (just as an example) wouldn't it add up pretty high too?
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Posted: 10 Oct 2011, 10:33
Milk has more sugar in it and atkins restricts sugar. Sugar kicks you out of ketosis and and you stop burning fat for energy instead of carbs. Skim milk is even worse than full-fat milk on the Atkins plan...when they take the fat out it leaves more sugar in a glass. It is the ratio of fat to carbs (not protein to carbs) that puts you in ketosis and keeps you there.
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Posted: 10 Oct 2011, 10:38
higher fat content.
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Posted: 10 Oct 2011, 10:59
Not sure that heavy cream should have 1 carb per table spoon. I should be under half a carb for a tablespoon.
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Posted: 10 Oct 2011, 11:19
Missychick21 - you need to find the heavy cream that has zero carbs. I buy mine from WalMart and it is the Great Value brand. Just read the labels until you find the right one. Hope that helps.
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liv001
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Posted: 10 Oct 2011, 11:44
Cream does not have zero carb. What happens is that they can round down the label. Even the walmart cream has 0.42 around carb per tablespoons.
They do this with all labels here in north america. Nothing (except meat and fish and water) really has zero carbs.
Missychick21
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Posted: 10 Oct 2011, 17:00
Thanks guys I was just wondering since I used to be a big milk drinker...
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liv001
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Posted: 10 Oct 2011, 17:58
I used to drink a lot of milk too.
I now sometimes drink almond milk and I love that stuff but I did not cut out milk then replace it. I think if I had done that almond milk would have tasted wrong to me if you know what I mean.
I still use some cream here and there and cheese.
Milk is quite carby - it is allowed in OWL but in small amounts - my carb limit is pretty low anyways.
Missychick21
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Posted: 10 Oct 2011, 19:43
It just didn't make sense if you go by number alone cuz one Tbsp of milk wouldn't have many carbs I would assume... but I guess if the type of sugar is different then I get it...
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liv001
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Posted: 10 Oct 2011, 21:35
On Atkins you do not want to have the carbs without the fat (or the fiber) so cream is better as it has fat - milk has a lot milksugar and the carbs will make more of an impact on our bloodsugar.
However, 1 tbs is a very small amount and if that is all we are having it probably does not make that much of a difference.
greerp
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Posted: 11 Oct 2011, 08:54
You are limited in the amount of dairy you can have. Cream is a better choice, as are hard cheeses instead of the softer ones. You get more bang for your buck calorie and nutrient-wise.
If you are using the cream for coffee - 1 tbsp can be spread across several cups of coffee.
greerp
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Posted: 11 Oct 2011, 08:57
And 1 TBSP of Milk =/= 1 Tbsp of Cream. They are completely different chemically. Milk has a ton of lactose and less fat. Cream has little to no lactose and a lot of fat.
Missychick21
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Posted: 11 Oct 2011, 11:30
What about whole fat lactose free milks? Just curious... I ask lots of questions lol
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liv001
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Posted: 11 Oct 2011, 11:40
What did they add to compensate for the removal of lactose_ Check the list of ingredients. Some of them probably add sugar.
There was a low carb milk called Hood. They now brand themselves low calorie but it is the same product. They are not easy to find. Here is their webpage
http://www.hood.com/Products/prodListColl.aspx?id=851
Almond milk and soymilk are also alternatives to consider. They are both low carb
Missychick21
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Posted: 11 Oct 2011, 12:49
I have Almond milk but they only way I like it is with sf chocolate syrup, I tried it in coffee but didn't like the flavor. To me it is kinda like watered down milk with a hint of raw almond flavor...if that makes sense. Also, I was told there were many bad things that can occur from eating/drinking soy...
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liv001
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Posted: 11 Oct 2011, 12:55
Some people are sketpical to soy - that is true.
I think when we look for low carb replacements to high carb foods we may always get dissapointed. This is why I say that if I had jumped directly from milk to almond milk I would not have liked it. But as it was I only drank water and then later introduced some almond milk and then I really like d it.
If you want something for your coffee or tea I would stick with cream. Yummy stuff LOL
Missychick21
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Posted: 11 Oct 2011, 13:03
I don't mind the cream in my coffee
I just add Stevia or sf vanilla syrup as well. I waited a long time before trying the Almond milk and still don't really like it plain. I just don't want to overdo the sugar alcohols too
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greerp
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Posted: 11 Oct 2011, 14:53
Missychick21 wrote:
What about whole fat lactose free milks? Just curious... I ask lots of questions lol
Never heard of them to be honest. But they will still have less fat than heavy whipping cream.
Missychick21
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Posted: 11 Oct 2011, 15:05
My daughter used to have to drink lactose free and they have it the same as regular milk as far as I could tell though she had to drink 2% due to WIC... so I never bought any other one
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woox2
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Posted: 11 Oct 2011, 16:55
Sugar. That's the simple answer.
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