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crissynrs

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Posted: 09 Aug 2011, 00:05
Ok so they say to drink half your body weight in water. I am a big girl, that is a whole lotta water. I am constantly in the bathroom. need to invest in toliet paper at this rate. I watched a movie, thank goodness it was at home so I could pause it, I had to pause the movie 3x. ugh, hopefully I can get some sleep. I drank water before but never this much.
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fitby6911

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Posted: 09 Aug 2011, 00:18
Half your body weight?? I've never heard that before. Drinking TOO much water can actually cause you to drown! The general rule of thumb is drink eight 8oz glasses minimum, and then another 8oz glass for each 25 lbs you are over weight.
crissynrs

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Posted: 09 Aug 2011, 00:49
either way its still alot of water. half my body weight would be 185oz. the 8x8 rule and the add another 8oz for every 25lbs would put me at 128oz. so, still lots of water. looked on atkins site and there was the same discussions.
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wee fat...

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Posted: 09 Aug 2011, 03:05
I have tried to drink about 2 litres of water a day and managed quite well. Only problen is, I like some diluting juice in it. I joined My Fat Secret yesterday and thought I had better check the calories in it. What a shock 100ml was 187 calories. No wonder I wasn't getting anywhere fast.
hkaruga

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Posted: 09 Aug 2011, 04:17
Think everyone has a different method for determining how much is necessary. I think proper hydration is important, but if you are peeing every hour, either there is something wrong with your bladder or you are drinking too much. I have to be honest I have always drank a lot of water (it is basically the only source fluid, except unsweetened hot green tea and occasionally milk; I haven't drank soda or juice in years). Don't have diabetes or suffer from excessive thirst but I honestly like water. Adding things to your water is not usually the best idea just because you are increasing you sugar and calorie intake and once you are past hydrating your body most evidence shows the only benefit to it is filling your stomach so that there is less room for food; it is not some kind of magic weight loss key (like some claim). Over doing it on water, overhydration can indeed lead to a medical condition called water intoxication, can lead to an electrolyte imbalance, weakness, nausea/vomiting, irritability, headache, confusion, etc. meanwhile there is swelling in the brain and in the event that there is too much pressure applied to the brain stem due to this swelling then it can cause death. This doesn't happen if one is drinking the general recommended 1.5-3 liters per day, but when you drink well in excess of that. 185 oz. is over 5 liters!!! by any standards I know that is too much. According to the Mayo clinic there is no scientific evidence to support the 8X8 rule (http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/water/NU00283). As a general rule for everything your body will tell you if there is a problem, which obviously it is: peeing at a rediculous frequency... Think about it.
celtic...

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Posted: 09 Aug 2011, 07:32
I drink at least 2 liters a day.I wiegh 250 right now. If I don't drink it I gain but if I do I don't. I've read every diet book there is and just put what was the same in all together and that's my diet. I read the same about the half of your body wieght is how much you sould drink. When I started to drink water I hated it and I felt like my eyeballs were floating in my head. And yes I was in the bathroom every 15 minutes or so. But now that i've been doing it for so long I don't go so much. Your body gets used to it after around a week or two. I love water now.

































HSChacko

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Posted: 09 Aug 2011, 07:45
I weigh about 70kg... which means 35kg of water which is equivalent to around 35l (1g = 1ml)... Far too much water - about 5 bathfulls a day. OUCH - delayed drowning, here I come Very Happy
liv001

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Posted: 09 Aug 2011, 10:14
I think that rule is to drink half your lbs body weight in ounces.
So if I weigh 125 lbs I should at least drink 62.5 ounce of water.
Ketogenic diets are diuretic so we need our water. Dr. Atkins suggested at least 64 oz.
Rowanfair

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Posted: 09 Aug 2011, 10:22
From Dr. Jay's blog <http://www.drjaywortman.com/blog/wordpress/2011/02/08/villages-on-a-diet/> (just in case FS totally destroys the url that is drjaywortman dot com, the entry for Feb 8, 2011)

"There is a lot of misinformation out there. For instance, the idea that you need to drink eight glasses of water a day or even more is something you run into all the time. There is no basis in science for this. You should drink when you are thirsty and avoid drinking calories. On a low-carb diet if you drink excess water you may exacerbate the tendency to develop hyponatremia (too little sodium in the blood) on this type of diet. When you stop carbs your kidneys will excrete salt and you need to make sure you are getting enough. Unfortunately, you see a lot of examples where wrong advice is given and people are told to restrict salt and drink lots of water. This is guaranteed to give you problems if you are doing low-carb."
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liv001

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Posted: 09 Aug 2011, 10:29
that is a good point about the salt. Thanks for bringing that up.
clandety

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Posted: 09 Aug 2011, 13:47
Rowanfair wrote:
From Dr. Jay's blog <http://www.drjaywortman.com/blog/wordpress/2011/02/08/villages-on-a-diet/> (just in case FS totally destroys the url that is drjaywortman dot com, the entry for Feb 8, 2011)

"There is a lot of misinformation out there. For instance, the idea that you need to drink eight glasses of water a day or even more is something you run into all the time. There is no basis in science for this. You should drink when you are thirsty and avoid drinking calories. On a low-carb diet if you drink excess water you may exacerbate the tendency to develop hyponatremia (too little sodium in the blood) on this type of diet. When you stop carbs your kidneys will excrete salt and you need to make sure you are getting enough. Unfortunately, you see a lot of examples where wrong advice is given and people are told to restrict salt and drink lots of water. This is guaranteed to give you problems if you are doing low-carb."


That's an interesting bit about the sodium as I noticed that while I'm on this diet, I have a tendency to have waaay more sodium than I normally do - so I was going to cut down.

Personally, I weigh a s##t-ton and I drink about 10 cups a day. I can tell when I'm thirsty now, so I drink when I am and when I want to. I don't aim for a particular number, I just try not to drink less than 7 cups.
brava

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Posted: 09 Aug 2011, 14:22
Finally, some sanity around this water issue. I follow the "old" Atkins idea of 64 oz. If I am excercising or it is hot, I want more. Oh but I jumped on that bandwagon until I fainted crossing a busy downtown street. Humiliation beyond belief and all from over hydration and flushing electrolytes.
gnat824

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Posted: 09 Aug 2011, 14:51
I weight about 178 and shoot for 100 oz a day. When I'm exercising, it really isn't all that difficult and I'll exceed that number easily. I've noticed in the last few days, though, when I've been laying off exercise because I'm not feeling well, I have to push to get 85-90 oz in. When you first get into drinking more water, you do have to push yourself a bit. Have your glass or water bottle or whatever with you all the time and use it! Once you get in the habit of drinking more, it won't be so hard- your body will want it.

Honestly, everyone I've ever heard talk about weight loss emphasizes the importance of water, so I think it is that important- the problem is, most of us weren't drinking enough to begin with (to much soda, juice, coffee, and other beverages), so it's as much of a general wellness issue as it is a weight loss issue. Drinking enough water (to the point where your urine has very little color) will help you to feel refreshed, helps with hunger (since many of us actually mistake thirst for hunger), can help to avoid headaches and has a number of other health benefits- I've noticed I need far less lotion because my skin isn't as dry.

I have heard people say that whenever you have a caffeinated beverage, you need to add an equal amount of water to compensate, but I definitely haven't taken it that far! I don't count coffee or diet soda towards my water intake, but I don't add more water, eithr.
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fitby6911

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Posted: 09 Aug 2011, 16:38
I feel pretty silly now! Big misunderstanding! You meant half your body weight, but in OUNCES, and hear I'm all worried you're literally drinking half your body weight(as in pounds)! I was so worried about you drowning! Thank goodness that wasn't the case! =)
kstubblefiel...

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Posted: 09 Aug 2011, 17:19
My target is a gallon a day (128 oz) & I find that when I consistently keep it that high, my appetite is well-controlled, my digestion runs smoothly, & fluid retention is limited. And I feel good.

When you initially begin increasing your water intake, yes, you'll be in the bathroom a lot. But after a couple of days of consistently keeping the intake higher, your body will adjust & your bathroom visits will decrease in frequency.

You're doing your body good by trying to stay hydrated, keep it up!

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lisakp71

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Posted: 09 Aug 2011, 17:41
crissynrs, you don't say how long since you started drinking so much - but if you're peeing three times during a movie, I am guessing you're new to it!

It's weird and counterintuitive, but when you don't drink enough, your body hoards it because it doesn't know how long it will be until you get more. Once it becomes clear that supply is no longer an issue, not only are you peeing what you're taking in, but you're also releasing some of the fluid you retained when your body thought you were thirsting to death! Kind of the same mechanism as starvation mode.

You'll start peeing like a normal person if you keep up the good work, promise! Very Happy
lisakp71

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Posted: 09 Aug 2011, 17:41
Woops, that will teach me to reply without refreshing... what kstubblefield said! Smart lady. Very Happy
NCNOLE

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Posted: 09 Aug 2011, 17:50
I drink 100 ounces a day - sometimes more. I have been using the 30 mL/kg route - but 100 is over that. I noticed that my weight doesn't fluctuate as much in the morning if I stay hydrated. Initially I started dropping pounds at a faster rate when I increased the fluid intake. It is funny how your body does adjust to the extra water intake. At first, I was going to the bathroom every 15 minutes too!
crissynrs

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Posted: 09 Aug 2011, 19:31
@lisakp71, I just started the drinking the water Sunday. I hope it stabilizes because I'm back to work wednesday.
@shewlett75, that is what i'm aiming for, to loose the weight-thank for giving something to look forward to.
you try and you fail, you try and you fail, but the only true failure is when you stop trying.
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crissynrs

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Posted: 09 Aug 2011, 19:34
i'm trying to hold off on weighing myself til next sunday. trying to stay within my net carb limit. doing the "MOVE" meats, oils, veggies, and eggs", I cut out cheese for the time being. And drinking lot of water. I keep yo-yoing between 1-3lbs for 2 weeks. my first week I lost 16lbs. then gained a couple back then the yo-yo.
you try and you fail, you try and you fail, but the only true failure is when you stop trying.
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