HCG Diet & I need your ideas for 500 calorie diets

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mystic_dawn

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Posted: 03 Aug 2011, 18:05
Greetings fellow fatsecret members, I am new here. I am very pleased that I found this app for my smart phone. This website is awesome & I am sure you agree. I haven't written bio yet here is a little.
I am 45 year old female who is disabled. I have Multiple Sclerosis, bipolar disorder among other things. We all have something, huh?
Time was I was fairly active little by little my activity level went down. Don't feel sorry for me because despite my weight/disability I feel like I am fairly good shape. Most of my girl friends w/MS are in wheel chairs, using walkers & canes. Thank God I am not. Very lucky, yes I am.
Since 2003 I have gradually put on 40-45 lbs. It must go NOW! Sound familar? Right. As healthy as may feel found out today I am an inch away from signs of diabetes. What I wanted to share with the community................
My new practioner (what a great doctor).........we talked about HCG shots. He urged me to research it. Who better to ask than all of you. What do you all think? Who has tried HCG therapy?
I truly believe this will work for me & my situation...since I walk well & I have the stamina I want to do 1 hour cardio on my treadmill. Missed it yesterday & might tonight-too much going on.
My plan is to do 1 hour cardio every day from now on. I am willing to work for a hot body Wink got to get healthy.
I am in this for the long haul. Question
Where would I find good ideas for a 500 calorie diet?
Thanks for reading-we are all in this journey together-I hope your journey is successful. I appreciate all your blogs. Keep it up! I love reading your entries.
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wretched85

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Posted: 03 Aug 2011, 18:30
I suggest researching this a little more before you start a starvation diet. I think these "fad" diets and processed/convenience foods has greatly contributed to the obesity epidemic and unhealthy lifestyles. Do you plan on surviving on 500 calories a day for the rest of your life? As soon as you go off this diet the weight will go right back on and it will take forever to undo the damage done to your metabolism.

But enough of my ranting. If you do decide to do this, I would suggest eating the leanest meats possible (fish, chicken) and a variety of veggies so you at least are getting some of the benefits from these healthier options. Even some of the lower cal fruits so you can eat more of them...like blackberries. Hope that helps and good luck in whatever road you decide to take Smile
greerp

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Posted: 03 Aug 2011, 19:50
1 hour of carido everyday AND 500 calories of food. WoW. You really want to kill your lean muscle mass, don't you. You'll lose weight, be skinny-fat for a month or two then put it all back on and be in worse shape then when you started. Amputation is cheaper and more effective.
Oddity

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Posted: 03 Aug 2011, 20:23
Mayo clinic, not a fan:
http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/hcg-diet/AN02091

Livestrong not fans:
http://www.livestrong.com/article/216858-hcg-diet-risks/

LA Times would suggest not:
http://articles.latimes.com/2009/nov/02/health/he-nutrition2

Web MD votes no:
http://www.webmd.com/vitamins-supplements/ingredientmono-1253-HCG%20DIET.aspx?activeIngredientId=1253&activeIngredientName=HCG%20DIET

More links courtesy of the Huffington Post (again pointing out this is a scam)
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/david-katz-md/hcg-diet-for-weight-loss_b_809660.html

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And now on to the "willing to work for a hot body comment"... Try weight training.
The case for it that it combats the muscle wasting directly and doesn't tend to overheat as much as some cardio.

University of Florida study in favor:
http://news.ufl.edu/2005/01/13/msexercise/

http://www.thisisms.com/article177.html


It stands to reason that swimming might be a good choices as well because of the heat thing, so I googled it and lookie:
http://www.nationalmssociety.org/living-with-multiple-sclerosis/you-can/swim-like-a-fish/index.aspx


I'm going to go out on a limb here and suggest no "Hot Yoga" for you, just in case you were tempted.
wretched85

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Posted: 03 Aug 2011, 20:30
It's great to see that people are not favoring these fads and starvation diets! I know we all would love to wake up in the morning and be trim, slim, and toned but the fact is there is no miracle cure. Healthy weight loss takes time and effort!!!
Jayjaycakez

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Posted: 18 Nov 2011, 23:35
Have you researched the diet.. there is a list of food you have to eat that they give you to eat with the drops.. its very limited.. you got the drops right? Or the shots? I ate an apple in the morning.. 3.5 oz of chicken and spinich for lunch and 3.5 oz and cabbage for dinner.. with a orange or strawberries for a snack..
sunshine_gir...

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Posted: 19 Nov 2011, 00:05
500 calories: NO, dont do it. Just dont. You are going to drop weight in the begining but not the way you want to.

Dont go below 1500calories a day.
What you need to do is calculate your RDI for maintenance and then subtrach 500 calories from that. Eat that, and walk in addition to that, if enter everything you eat in the food diary and enter any consious excersie (like threadmill or going for a walk outside etc) to your excersie diary. If you find that you are struggeling to keep up activity levels at 1500 after a while and you have a much bigger than 500 calorie deficit according to the site I would up the calories a bit, manye 100 or 200 calories and see if you are happier there. That will keep the weight coming of steadily and when you get to your wanted weight it is easy to change into maintenance and eat a way you can do for the rest of your life without gaining back.

Keep the journal on here, just enter a few words if you dont feel like writing a lot, it helps, to me it is what tells me that I have chosen to do this then I have to make time for it, and soon you will enjoy it.

Just dont do a 500 calorie diet, you will starve your body, loose muscles, not fat and you will not be able to keep doing it which means you end up where you were with less muscle.

Also look into strength excersises, especially core strength It will increase your muscle mass, making your body stronger is never a bad thing!

Sorry for writing a lot in a messed up order, early morning here, so not sure I am coherent
Donna Endres

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Posted: 19 Nov 2011, 01:41
if done correctly, HCG is a great diet. I have lost 80 lbs and am doing well. Just as on any diet, you cannot go back to doing what you were doing before and thing that you're going to keep the weight off. This is why people gain it back on any diet. I have lost weight and my insulin resistance has improved. I have 29 lbs to go and will do it with another round of HCG as well as finding the foods that adversely effect my body.
kingkeld

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Posted: 19 Nov 2011, 02:43
I'm with the nay-sayers on this. 500 cals will just make you tired, miserable, depressed AND stall your weight loss.

My only recommendation on this "diet": Don't do it. Count your calories and take a look at your carbs as you do, limit your calories to something reasonable (like what the FatSecret calculator suggests) and you'll lose weight MUCH faster, and enjoy the ride too!
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"Losing weight is never about eating as little as possible"
- Kingkeld.
"You wouldn't worry so much about what others think of you if you realized how seldom they do.
― Eleanor Roosevelt
"Do. Or do not. There is no trying."
- Master Yoda.

I went from morbidly obese to being the owner of TABDIG - a weight loss coaching service that helps people worldwide losing weight. It's been an amazing journey. From October 4th 2010 to April 3rd 2012 I lost half my body weight - 80 kilos/170 lbs. Since then, I have had two cosmetic surgeries to remove excess skin. I have now quadrupled my strength, gained several kilos in muscle mass, and today I focus on building muscle, optimizing my diet, living healthy and helping people to reach the very same goals. I am stronger, healthier, thinner, happier! If you feel that you need help losing weight, don't hesitate to send me an inbox message.
Sk1nnyfuture

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Posted: 19 Nov 2011, 04:05
I'm with Greepe, SunshineGirl and KingKeld on this one... Don't do it. You may loose weight - but will it be FAT you are loosing? Your body will cannibalise itself and use your muscle for energy. I may be wrong, but in your position I don't think you want to loose muscle. When you come off the diet, you will put it back on, because the weight that you have lost, is "muscle" weight. Muscle uses more calories - fat uses fewer calories.... so it is more beneficial to have muscle than fat. Go on a sensible diet and build muscle - research, research and research, to find the best option for you .... Google health pro's and con's of the diet, don't take one view in isolation, and - do not believe the hype from "biased" websites, they are preying on our insecurities
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BuffyBear

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Posted: 19 Nov 2011, 06:29
Even if HCG is medically safe, I can't help but wonder how anyone can get all nutrients they need on 500 calories a day? Just my fish, olive and nut oils are over 300 calories. So how would this affect the long term health of your eyesight, joints, etc.?
Eat like your life depends on it.

NCNOLE

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Posted: 19 Nov 2011, 07:09
Won't get any advice on this from me. 500 calories is not safe - all it does it mess up your metabolism. I just talked with someone a couple weeks ago that did this. She lost a bunch of weight, was taken off the medicine b/c of heart problems, put on the weight plus some and now is struggling to lose the weight. Of course you will gain the weight back once you start eating again - will never work long term. Sorry to be a Debbi Downer, but this diet is not safe and if you can not learn to eat healthy and normal amounts of food, you will never be able to keep the weight off.
mystic_dawn

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Posted: 21 Nov 2011, 17:56
I appreciate your posts guys & gals. Any of the nay sayers should read about it. I did tons of research. Every person that tried it said...."I have energy" I do too. You are not starving yourself. HCG gets the hypothalmus to release abnormal fat deposits. (we all do have some heathy fat)
The more I read about the HCG diet~the more it made perfect sense. I am on day 19. 8 lbs down & 6+ inches gone. Sure I will watch & be more mindful of what I eat in maintenance. I really don't care what I weigh. I am muscular & always weighed more but slim. All I want for my birthday (Dec 23) and Christmas is a new birthday suit. Folks this experience has been exciting. I have seen results daily. What a major motivater. The claims are true. The way I see it when you are measuring your meat etc.........you are bound to learn what a normal portion should be. You feel very comfortable on it with no hunger pains. You are feedding off your body fat not muscle! I know it sounds too good to be true. I am a very happy believer now. And by the way ALL OF MY WEIGHT LOSS IS MOST DEFINATELY FAT!!!!
If it didn't work I wouldn't do it. The hypothalamus is the organ that finally releases the fat. If anybody is interested look into it.
sazy

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Posted: 22 Nov 2011, 06:08
There can never be good ideas for 500 cals in my view. I agree with those who say dont do this.

Kingkeld is right but i would like to add that it is important Not to skip meals. Apparently if you starve yourself, YOUR BODY THINKS A FAMINE IS COMING AND HOLDS ON TO THE FAT FOR ITS SURVIVAL, isnt the body amazing, i wish i would listen to it more instead of mindless indulgence. This is a fact, on both counts.

My two sons say they could not eat my portions it is too much for them, (one is six foot tall and the other is six foot three, i am five foot four and half, musnt forget the half, tee hee.

I am measuring my food now to get my portions right, it is not a chore since i have been on fs cos of the continued support. The motivation to come to the computer and exchange experiences is very good for me. I have been much more consistant since joining. Good luck

My apologies but i cant work out what HCG is. I would also like to add that your wonderful positivity regarding your illness is bound to transfer to your weight loss programme, i truly hope you will find a weight loss plan that involves, much more than 500 cals, according to fs calculator you need more than that just for resting and sleeping. Regards Sazy.
My original profile has disappeared so I will update. I live in Scotland with my husband. My 2 grown up sons live within 20 minutes from my home, though in opposite directions. My youngest has 2 children whm I look after twice a week and of course sleepovers. I love looking after them

I have been on Fs since august 2011 without success, my own doing of course as the support and caring words from buddieswere faultless. My problem, I know I should lose weight for health and fitness, however I am undisciplined and unfortunately got used to my weight, which means of course that I have forgotten how it feels to be so fit as I once was.
My family have accepted their pleas have fallen on deaf ears as my weight remains the same.
I may not be on here much as I originally came back to say hello to my buddies that I have never forgotten.

Most of my buddies seem to have taken a break too. I can only say that on or off FS I am going to try and make steps toward a healthier, fitter life.
kingkeld

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Posted: 22 Nov 2011, 08:06
As a naysayer I will stick to my warning. I guess whether you take the advice of all the experienced ones here is essentially up to you.
I wish you good luck on your journey. Both this one and the next one. Smile Because there WILL be a next one.
Visit my website: www.tabdig.info

"Losing weight is never about eating as little as possible"
- Kingkeld.
"You wouldn't worry so much about what others think of you if you realized how seldom they do.
― Eleanor Roosevelt
"Do. Or do not. There is no trying."
- Master Yoda.

I went from morbidly obese to being the owner of TABDIG - a weight loss coaching service that helps people worldwide losing weight. It's been an amazing journey. From October 4th 2010 to April 3rd 2012 I lost half my body weight - 80 kilos/170 lbs. Since then, I have had two cosmetic surgeries to remove excess skin. I have now quadrupled my strength, gained several kilos in muscle mass, and today I focus on building muscle, optimizing my diet, living healthy and helping people to reach the very same goals. I am stronger, healthier, thinner, happier! If you feel that you need help losing weight, don't hesitate to send me an inbox message.
gnat824

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Posted: 22 Nov 2011, 09:11
How can you possibly say you did a ton of research? Here's the bottom line on HCG: I have NEVER seen a positive review of this program by anyone who wasn't making money off it. Follow the money! Love Oddity's post where she points out all the health sites that tell you to stay away- are you even paying attention? Oh, and the SCIENTIFIC EVIDENCE that the drops, at least, are no more effective than doing NOTHING! But some very expensive nothing!

Here's the brutal truth on healthy weight loss: It's not easy. It's not fast. You're only looking at HCG because you want a quick fix, but fast is not the way to go, for all the reasons listed above. A much healthier way to go is do the exercise you mention, make sure to include strength training, and count your calories, but keep them at a sustainable level. I promise you, you CAN lose weight this way and you'll be much healthier and happier in the long run. Starvation dieting means you'll lose your muscle mass and look WORSE as you lose weight, plus you'll kill your metabolism so you'll put on weight that much faster once you start eating a normal number of calories again. Is that what you really want? At the end of the day, there are a number of ways to lose weight quickly- the REAL question to ask is will you keep it off. With HCG, I think the answer is an unqualified NO!
- Natalie
gnat824

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Posted: 22 Nov 2011, 09:14
Mystic_dawn,do you have body fat measurements to confirm that all your weight loss is fat? Even with a slow weight loss regiment supported by strength training, not all of my weight loss is fat loss so forgive me of being HIGHLY suspicious of your assertion! Unless you're taking regular measurements, you have no way of knowing what's actually going on inside your body.

I have a best friend with MS and one of the most important things you can do for your long term prognosis is to build your muscle mass, especially in your core- is HCG really getting you there?
- Natalie
wretched85

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Posted: 22 Nov 2011, 13:46
I am wondering if anyone doing HCG has actually had their body fat and lean muscle measured consistently to see what they are really loosing. Of course you are going to drop pounds and inches...you are starving yourself!! Is the plan to go through the rest of your life on these drops eating 500 calories?? I don't understand how this seems like a healthy long term plan at all.
Angela H

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Posted: 23 Nov 2011, 11:24
I wish those that want to "nay say" on a TOOL to help a person to lose their unwanted weight would first take a moment and recognize that each and everyone of us are different. There are those that their metobolism is not out of balance and then there are others that need to reset their metobolism. There are those that want to see results and if they don't see a significate reduction, one can loss all ambition to keep going and go right back to the same routine. HCG IS NOT a program to live by for the rest of your life but a tool to begin to reset your metabolism and see results. One is only on the program for up to 49 days. Though one can use it again once you follow the program completely if you need to loss more weight. The program requires that one stay away from fats, sugars, and starches during this time. After the 49 days, you stop the drops and begin to eat foods that are more in fat and that would be good fats. Then a few weeks from that you begin to introduce sugars and startches. Again, eating foods that aren't processed but good sugars from fruits and whole grain breads and so on. After you have finished all of this and still need to lose more weight one can start over again. Just so you all understand, I am one of those folks that have been on every diet you could think of. Prior to HCG I was on my last appointment to have gastric bypass (which is also a TOOL) My brother tried HCG and lost 60lbs and I thought I would give it a try before going for the surgery. HCG diet isn't any different then the diet you would be on after having bariatric surgery. Low on calories but high on protein. Taking in the protein will help prevent the loss of muscle. If one is to work out they would up their cals by eating more protein. If one does nothing at all then you stay within a serving size for each meal. Either TOOL that is used, the diet is the same and a dietitian and nutritionist has gone over it with a fine tooth comb.
Gnat824, I think your comment comes only because you don't agree with it and thats ok but don't discourage others as what worked for you may not work for someone else and vise versa. As for the drops not working, I will have to differ. I find that I have alot more energy and I don't feel hungry. My drops do have vitamin B's which of course helps with energy and truth be told if all the drops are are liquid vitamins.....well, then this TOOL is working for me. As for expense.....well I got my drops and a detox for 80 bucks it isn't that much. Heck that could be spent in going out to dinner or trips to the doctors. There are many illnesses that come with obesity and if one is so worried about the expense of a tool then how much is ones life?? Also, my brother has a positive review and he isn't making a dime from this product. I've only been on this for a few weeks so I can't give a completed review but its doing what its supoose to be doing but then we are coming into the holiday season but I will be mindful as to what I am eating. I will post to let everyone know how things are going. Have a wonderful Turkey Day!!!!!
NCNOLE

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Posted: 23 Nov 2011, 11:42
Let's talk a year from now.



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