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Dufresne

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Posted: 03 Aug 2011, 08:52
How do you know when an item is too high in carbs? Example: I want ice cream and it says 1/2 cup 27carbs. Is that too high? Dr. said go easy on carbs but I never got the Carb thing down.
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F8thful1

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Posted: 03 Aug 2011, 09:08
Going easy on carbs means cut down on potatoes, rice, breads, sugar, desserts, soda. A diet low in carbs would include meats and vegies & cheese. If you are trying to lose weight, then you should restrict your daily carbs to 20 so your ice cream is too high. Go to www.atkins.com and read about the low carb eating lifestyle. It is not something you can guess at since it is a very different concept than eating low fat. Atkins is optimal protein, high fat, and low carb. Many people have had great success with the program because you can curb your cravings for carbs and lose weight while not feeling hungry. Good luck!
gnat824

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Posted: 03 Aug 2011, 09:17
Carbs themselves aren't a bad thing, but eating too many refined ones is. There's a big difference between the carbs you get from veggies and whole grains than the ones you get from white bread or a bowl of ice cream. Your body has to work to break down complex carbs, which means that they'll keep you fuller longer (especially if you're eating foods that are high in fiber) and avoid insulin spikes that come from all the energy in your food hitting your blood stream all at once. Your best bet is to minimize the amount of processed foods you eat, which invariably contain high levels of those refined carbs (from white flour and sugar). If your carbs are coming from whole grains, veggies, fruit and lowfat dairy products (without added sugars) you have nothing to worry about- just make sure you stick to moderation with the ice cream Wink
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gnat824

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Posted: 03 Aug 2011, 09:26
PS- Your calories come from one of 3 places- fat, protein or carbs. If one group goes down, another group has to go up. Atkins is low carb because its high fat. WW is low fat, which means it is going to be higher carb that WW- there's no way around it. You can keep your lean proteins up to reduce carb intake, but the 20 grams a day (the limit for Atkins induction, the most carb restrictive WOE out there) is impossible if you're on WW.
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greerp

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Posted: 03 Aug 2011, 09:44
Atkins is 20NC during induction (not 20 total). 20NC is about 40-50 total carbs.

I would stay away from sweets, grains and starchy veggies. Go easy on the fruit. If you eat whole wheat bread - find the coarsest ground you can find. Try trader joes. Most grocery store wheat bread is no different than white bread and highly processed. Any food where the vitamins have to be added back in should tell you something.
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Posted: 03 Aug 2011, 15:24
Since you are dealing with diabetes I would suggest not doing atkins. Diabetics often have high lipid levels , to much saturated fats are unwise. Eat a balanced diet and cut back on high glycemic foods and refined foods
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thewillie

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Posted: 03 Aug 2011, 15:45
if your doc told you to cut down, then he obviously had a reason. ask him what the range is he suggests for you.
ShyGuy

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Posted: 03 Aug 2011, 17:06
greerp, I agree with the info in your post with one exception. Net carbs is calculated by subtracting the grams of fiber from the total number of carbohydrates, as listed on the information label. Therefore, "20NC is about 40-50 total carbs." isn't necessarily correct depending on the amount ot fiber listed in a food.
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Posted: 04 Aug 2011, 01:21
Yeah you might ask him for an ideal range of carbs in his opinion. You also have to consider where the carbs you do eat come from, most need to come from non-starchy veggies, dairy, and few whole grains and such natural sources, as opposed to sugar as is the case of ice cream. So because the vast majority of carbs in sugar added ice cream is from sugar, I would say that that should be considered high.
Dufresne

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Posted: 05 Aug 2011, 09:38
Thank you all for your posts. These have been very useful because I never could grasp the low carb diet. I have been on Steriods for a period of time and gained 8 pounds in my belly which is really bad because I am bigger now then I was with two pregnacies. So Dr. put me on Weight watchers. I am busting my butt working out but the diet thing is my downfall. So I guess I will give up Sherbert ice cream and go with sugar free. Thank you and all your tips. VERY HELPFUL
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Posted: 05 Aug 2011, 10:41
My sister is a diabetic and she is limited to 40 carbs per meal. 4-5 meals a day.
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mama cracker

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Posted: 05 Aug 2011, 12:56
one serving of carbs (regardless of the source) is 15 grams

one serving of protein (which is always 1oz of beef, chicken, pork, fish) is always 7 grams

one serving of fat (regardless of the source) is 5 grams

the main thing my nutritionist tries to instill in us is to try to keep your portions equal. If you are going to have 3 servings of carbs (45 grams) then you should have at least 3oz of protein (21 grams)

this holds true during all meals and snacks AND you should try to always stay under 2 servings of fat (10 grams) at all meals and snacks


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mdep1229

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Posted: 05 Aug 2011, 13:08
Sounds good on paper, but the majority of food we consume is not pure fat, protein, carb, but more likely a combination of all three.

Always stay under 10g of fat per meal? Try telling that to people on Atkins who have successfully rid of a ton of fat! Bad Grin
lisakp71

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Posted: 05 Aug 2011, 13:25
Mama cracker, 15 or 7 or 5 grams of WHAT? You mention 3oz of protein, but then called it 21 grams - but each ounce (by weight) is just over 28g. Sounds like you're referring to a part of each serving??

I think I'm missing something, but I'm really interested in the idea of balancing out servings per meal! Am I being dense?
Hermiones...

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Posted: 05 Aug 2011, 15:30
I agree: Ask your doctor what he means by low carb and also precisely why he is recommending this. As a benchmark, when I googled this subject when I start my diet one year ago, I found several sources that said that the body needs a minimum of 124 grams of carbs per day and most of these carbs should be good carbs -- from veggies and whole grains.

Also, there's a lot out there that talks about balancing daily intake around 30-40% carbs to 60-70% proteins and good fats.

So I have been trying to strike this balance, eliminating all the "white" food (rice,potatoes, sugar) and sticking with lean proteins, low-glycemic veggies and fruits, and whole grains, and keeping my net carbs well below the 124 threshhold. This approach has worked for me.

Dufresne -- use your search engines to read up on these topics: how many carbs do you need per day? and what is low glycemic eating/foods? It's best to read and learn for yourself, and then talk with your doctor. What works and is healthy for one person may not work for someone else.
Dufresne

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Posted: 11 Aug 2011, 08:38
I have been reading up on these all over the place. Such confusion, I see my dr. in a few weeks so we will see. I am also working on Zumba and Tae Bo. So hopefully that will help. I am trying to stick with wheat products now. Somethings gotta help.
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Posted: 12 Aug 2011, 00:04
Eat what you like just restrict calories so that you're losing 1-2 lbs a week. Here is a thread that will help you figure out your calorie and macronutrient needs http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=121703981 to reach your goals. Restricting yourself of the foods you love will make you miserable. You may try to convince yourself that you are happy but being able to lose fat and eat what you love is easily possible.
Love your food or risk failure. No quick fixes, this is a lifestyle change. No extremes are needed just consistency.
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Posted: 12 Aug 2011, 00:11
I am not advocating eating nothing but processed foods but don't be afraid to if you're really craving it. Check my food log. I am taking the eating junk to the extreme while still maintaining a deficit and keeping my fats and protein at my goals just to see if this really works. Started at 223 on my 31st and am now 195.6. I am now leaner than in my avatar and I just had a 20 piece of chicken nuggets.
Love your food or risk failure. No quick fixes, this is a lifestyle change. No extremes are needed just consistency.
Hermiones...

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Posted: 12 Aug 2011, 20:51
Diablo360x -- from the perspective of a nearly 60-year-old...this is not just about losing weight. It's about learning to eat and live healthier. If you are young and active, you will almost certainly lose weight no matter what you eat so long as ou have a calorie deficit. But that doesn't make you healthy, and 20 years from now (or sooner, if for some reason you become less active, say, heaven forbid, you sustain an injury), making a junk food diet into a habit will catch up with you in bad health outcomes. Do what you wish for yourself, but advising people that it's OK to eat as much junk food as they like so long as they lose weight is not a nice thing to do.
mama cracker

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Posted: 12 Aug 2011, 21:33
mdep1229... I am definitely not trying to dis anyone on Atkins, this is just based on what my nutritionist tries to teach us during class. She would prefer we eat a well balanced meal of carbs, protein and fat.

Lisa... I am so sorry if I made this sound so confusing. I was just trying to help you understand what a serving size is based on a nutrition label that is written in grams.

based on grams, every 15grams of carbs is one serving.
every 7 grams of protein is one serving
and every 5 grams of fat is one serving

1 oz of protein is equal to 7 grams. So, 1 oz of protein IS one serving. therefore, 3oz of protein would be considered 3 servings and equal to 21 grams.

so, if you want to stay equal on your carbs to protein ratio just remember
15g:1 serving of carbs
7g:1 serving of protein


Final math problem...if you are eating something that is labeled with 30g of carbs than you know that it is considered 2 serving of carbs and you will want to make sure you eat 2 servings of protein with it. 30 grams of carbs and 14g of protein = 2 servings of each

By the way, what label are you looking at that tells you 1oz is 28grams of protein? Are you sure it isn't the total serving in the package and not just 1oz? 28grams would be a nice 4oz serving of meat, or chicken, ect.



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