Weight Loss and Ketosis

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scannell19

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Posted: 17 Jun 2011, 10:07
How can someone be in high ketosis and not lose any weight?
PeeFat

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Posted: 17 Jun 2011, 10:17
Your going way over 20 net carbs on a daily basis. Things like beer and sugary bbq sauce, ect is a killer. Some days your hitting 50 net carbs. You won't get into ketosis with so many carbs.

You need to limit your net carbs to 20g a day.
greerp

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Posted: 17 Jun 2011, 12:46
In order to be in ketosis, you must be consistently under 50NC (±5NC).

20NC is just the limit for those starting induction. Not everyone starts at induction levels for Atkins.
PeeFat

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Posted: 17 Jun 2011, 13:10
Might want to try max of 20 net carbs for a while to see how carb sensitive you are. For some 50 may be over the top. I don't know if you started on induction or not.
danawiesner

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Posted: 17 Jun 2011, 13:14
Go to Atkins.com and look up this thread:

"Why do Stalls happen? Here is what I've learned."

I found it so helpful, it is long but well worth the read. Hope it helps.
kokusho

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Posted: 17 Jun 2011, 13:21
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How can someone be in high ketosis and not lose any weight?

Because there's still such a thing as eating too much...
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thersmith

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Posted: 17 Jun 2011, 13:27
Took a peek at your food journal. In induction no alchol. you must eat only what is on the acceptable food list. and you must limit your carbs to 20 net carbs.Of the week or so listed, you have not done that. You can not be in ketosis untill you do these things its how it works. this site will give you so much guidance if you read it. http://www.atkinsdietbulletinboard.com/forums/faq.php?faq=atkins_faq

at the end of the day you should have:
10-15 net carbs made up of the foundation vegies (no peas or alcohol...sorry)
65-75% fat
20-30% protein
and half you weight in water.

you do this and you will lose weight.

And don't feed the troll
oldrnwisr1

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Posted: 17 Jun 2011, 17:51
I can't believe so many people are trying to reach ketosis. It is a serious condition.
hkaruga

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Posted: 17 Jun 2011, 17:58
So long as it is not brought on by starvation or accompanied by extreme hyperglycemia (diabetic ketoacidosis), NO it is not a serious medical condition, but rather a usually beign symptom of low carbohydrate diets such as those ordered by physicians for kids with epilepsy, individuals with brain damage, and even migraines.
Nimm

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Posted: 17 Jun 2011, 18:22
What kokusho said.

The OP may or may not be simply eating too much, but that is a possibility.
FrostyLady

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Posted: 17 Jun 2011, 19:02
Well, eating too much, where your carbs come from( very important) and most of all, alcohol is dieters worst ennemy.
Try visiting Atkins site and if possible, try to follow their meal plan. I'm sure it will work!!!! Having a real breakfast for example will be a good start.
ijedic

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Posted: 17 Jun 2011, 19:49
oldrnwisr1 wrote:
I can't believe so many people are trying to reach ketosis. It is a serious condition.


I am Type 2 diabetic. My doctor put me on Atkins. After a month and a half I am off of one of my diabetes medications. I'm definitely taking this condition seriously.
greerp

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Posted: 18 Jun 2011, 08:53
oldrnwisr1 wrote:
I can't believe so many people are trying to reach ketosis. It is a serious condition.


You are thinking of ketoacidosis.
krystynecar

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Posted: 22 Jul 2011, 23:59
I also experienced this problem. I know I was in Ketosis because I was under doctor supervision and I was having my urine checked for ketones. I exercised and followed the diet to a T - I always kept my carbs under 20 faithfully. I lost 30 pounds in the first two months. I was kept at the induction phase for an additional 3 months where I struggled to lose a total of 5 pounds. The only thing that had changed was I was using sugar alcohols. The minute I cut these out my weight loss continued!
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theewhoshops

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Posted: 23 Jul 2011, 11:08
krystynecar....I noticed as soon as I cut out the artificial sweeteners I started losing more also. Everyone reacts differently I suppose, it probably made a diff for me because sweets are my weakness, not chips.



atcfitness

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Posted: 18 Jul 2012, 11:53
Hey everyone! I have been on Fatsecret for some time now and I am a personal trainer but I am now trying to follow a CKD diet (looking to compete in natural fitness bodybuilding next year) and want to know what everyone thinks about ketosis, etc. I started officially yesterday and didn't eat too great but kept my carbs below 30g. This is HUGE for me since I am so used to consuming 300+ carbs when lifting really heavy and hard. My plan is to stick to a calorie deficit to help with the weight loss and limit carbs to under 30-35g per day. Only exception to this is on heavy lifting days, I plan on consuming SOME carbs with my protein immediately after my workout but since glycogen levels will be pretty depleted, this should go to that and not get stored as fat (my theory anyway). Anyone have any tips or advise for a long time trainer but first time venturing into the Ketonic waters? I would greatly appreciate it! Smile
aurora3354

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Posted: 20 Jul 2012, 18:22
You might want to check out "The Art and Science of Low Carb Performance" by Dr. Steve Phinney (a long distance bike rider) and Jeff Volek (weight lifter). They are two of the leading researchers in the low carb/keto field and specifically wrote this book for athletes. http://www.amazon.com/The-Art-Science-Carbohydrate-Performance/dp/0983490716/ref=pd_sim_b_2
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Erinbee

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Posted: 23 Jul 2012, 08:07
First of all....

Most of the info you all are spouting is wrong.

A: ketosis is NOT dangerous!

B: you DO NOT need to be in ketosis to lose weight. Ketones DO NOT cause weight loss. They are an energy source when carbs are not present.

C: it's about calories. Calories in - calories out.

If you're in ketosis and not losing weight: it's because you're eating TOO much!!
Erinbee

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Posted: 23 Jul 2012, 08:14
And ketosis happens when you cut carbs below 100 grams. You can be in ketosis and it won't show up on the strips.

The reason lowering carbs works is because it decreases appetite and you eat less without counting calories.

But guess what? You're still eating less.

Ketosis does not equal weight loss.
laylaindy

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Posted: 27 Jul 2012, 23:58
kokusho wrote:
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How can someone be in high ketosis and not lose any weight?

Because there's still such a thing as eating too much...

I think this is my case too... I am checking the ketones in my urine every day and they show the highest level on my test, higher than that my stripes can't test Smile But I actually gained weight while I was (and still am) in ketosis and I think it's been so because I have been eating too much (at least for my current weight).



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