UGHHHHH...Carbs

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stephanie.ca...

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Posted: 02 Jun 2011, 17:30
Greetings all,


I just need a lil help and a place to vent. First, I am a long time Fat secret person. I have recently started p90x, well I am either in week 8 or week 3 depending on how you look at it. (Did Lean first month and moved to classic for month 2 I started over with wk 1))

I know for a fact I am getting stronger as I can do so much more of the videos now than in the beginning but the scale is not moving.

I know, I know I whine about this a lot in my journal so sorry about that. I DO continue to press play but I guess its my eating that is bad. I tend to stay around my calories but those dang carbs sneak up on me and before I know it BAM I am at like 150g carbs a day.

I would love for you guys to check out my diet calendar and give me advice even if it just to keep going.

I have been sitting at this same number for a while, but I continue to press play. I do know that I have been around a 12-14 my entire life.. I crash diet to get back into my 12 and then I go back to my normal life....I am back at my twelve and NOW I just need to get over this friggin hump......How do I make the leap over the fence?
dmalek1983

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Posted: 02 Jun 2011, 17:40
You weren't kidding when you said those carbs creep up on you. Carbs seem to be everyone's friend in terms of taste. Question: When you choose your carbs (breads, noodles, cookies, etc...), are they wheat, whole wheat, multi-grain, etc...? If not, try to make the switch to those type of carbs as a morning food. With the exception of the cookies. I would also suggest looking into complex carb foods for the morning as well. They'll keep you energized throughout the day while maintaining and keeping your feelings of hunger subdued. Hope this helps a little.
-D
stephanie.ca...

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Posted: 02 Jun 2011, 18:21
Thanks so much, I will start thinking of complex carbs....
ArmyMustang

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Posted: 02 Jun 2011, 18:23
I went out and bought Quaker Oatmeal Squares because Bob of Biggest Loser fame recommended them and they actually taste delicious! They have 46g of whole grain in one serving and they are tasty enough to put in a ziploc baggy as an afternoon snack. I have them for breakfast and I'm not hungry for at least 3-4 hours afterwards.
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kstubblefiel...

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Posted: 02 Jun 2011, 18:41
Ooh, I can help! I asked a question in my journal a while back looking for complex carb ideas. Happy to share: http://www.fatsecret.com/Default.aspx?pa=memnd&id=3408883

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Adelinemf

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Posted: 02 Jun 2011, 20:10
Steph - I will look at your food journal and get back to you on that.

I will say this first though, what are you%? In my experience of training people, a diet free of flour and sugar, rice and potatoe will result in the greatest loss. The next best seems to be one 40/30/30, carbs/ pro/fat respectively.

After I look at your food journal I will have more specific things to offer, but I know that the above 2 things have helped the majority of my clients.

Hang in there!
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stephanie.ca...

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Posted: 02 Jun 2011, 20:59
Ugh...see a life without rice and potatoes and sugar and flour would be no life at all.... I will continue to try and cut back, but I just can't see myself giving those things up to loose weight because I won't be doing that for the rest of my life. i can def cut back but that is about all I can say. I mean maybe I don't want it bad enough but that just seem miserable and I would rather lose slow I guess and be content than miserable and skinny.
buf069

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Posted: 02 Jun 2011, 21:01
I hear you. I totally agree. I believe my goal will be to eat low carb now, and eventually try to limit rice (I LIVE FOR IT!)to an occasional treat rather than a staple food.
stephanie.ca...

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Posted: 02 Jun 2011, 21:10
hmm... I like that term "Occasional treat." I know rice has lots and lots o carbs. I do try to stay around 150 although I aim for 100.....it happens sometimes.
kstubblefiel...

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Posted: 02 Jun 2011, 21:48
buf069 wrote:
I hear you. I totally agree. I believe my goal will be to eat low carb now, and eventually try to limit rice (I LIVE FOR IT!)to an occasional treat rather than a staple food.

Omg...I love rice too. Esp jasmine. But that's what got me fat in the first place. Well not the ONLY thing but definitely a contributing factor. I didn't see myself going low carb ever either, but have found myself so comfortable with a carb cycling diet that I don't see myself ever going back to eating high carb every day. I can't wait indefinitely to eat rice & pasta & oatmeal & all the other yummy carbs I love, but I can wait 6 days. I never have to wait longer than that, & I find that during the week I build this list in my head of only the BEST carbs. The list varies from week to week, but sometimes it's sushi, other times it's pasta, other times it's donuts & cake. I enjoy them for the day, then I'm more than ready to get back to my low carb the next day.

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Adelinemf

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Posted: 03 Jun 2011, 07:38
Steph, it wouldn't be forever. That just wouldn't be right. It's about getting back to moderation and balance. Just to get the cravings out of your system and give it a little break. You may want to try the 40/30/30 approach. It will keep everything in check. Plus I try to do the 80/20 thing, I eat right about 80% of the time and allow myself to cheat about 20%, which is kind of what kstubblefield does. Then you don't feel deprived!
Best,

Adeline

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ktfitzgerald

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Posted: 03 Jun 2011, 07:54
Also, try checking your measurements. You're probably replacing fat with muscle and that would show up in your measurements since a pound of mucsle takes up less space than a pound of fat.
maybaby

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Posted: 03 Jun 2011, 08:15
I took a look at the last few days of your diet calendar and you do need to get your carbs in check. As suggested if you must have those carbs pick whole wheat. Don't believe the name either. I saw some crackers on your list that had whole wheat in the title, but I'm pretty sure if you read the ingredients, it has enriched bleached flour. NOT whole wheat.

I hit a plateau myself a while back and started researching and came across Gary Taubes. While I'm not saying you should cut out carbs completely, try to cut down on them. I changed my macronutrients to get past my plateau and it worked! I am trying to keep my carbs to 80g or less per day and my fat high while still hovering around my calorie count I should have. Since making this change, I can eat more than my calorie count by 100-200 per day and I'm still losing. It's been all about the carbs! Take a look at my diet calendar.

Send me a message if you would like a link to some of the websites I read. I figured 80g of carb was doable for me for the rest of my life with the exception of special occasions.

gnat824

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Posted: 03 Jun 2011, 08:40
I think the most important thing about carbs is to get away from seeing them all the same- they're NOT! You just can't lump the carbs you get from oatmeal and broccoli in with the carbs you get white bread and chocolate cake. Kat has provided some great sources of complex carbs and I would work on substituting some of your current staples with complex versions. Low carb is NOT the only way to lose weight and I would be wary of going that route unless you can strike some kind of balance that makes it sustainable. To keep the weight off, you have to move away from the short-term "diet" mentality and think in terms of permament changes to your lifestyle.

Looking at your original post, I think part of your problem might be that you're around a weight that your body has been comfortable at in the past - I think they're called set points or something like that. I believe there's some evidence to show that it is harder to get past those thresholds- your body is just more reluctant to let go of the weight. With this in mind, you might want to increase your workout intensity a bit and just have some patience. And make sure you're taking your measurements so you can see other changes. Sore muscles will also retain more water, so you really have to look beyond the scale in the short term. Keep at it, though, and you WILL break through it!



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Sherri Hill

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Posted: 14 Jun 2011, 00:14
So I worked out the first time in a while yesterday and I gained about a pound. I thought to myself I ate great and worked out, I know muscle is heavier than fat, but one workout!!! NO WAY!!!! My muscles were very sore I would be happy to believe a small amount was muscle and a bit of the weight was affected by the sore muscles. I'm not sure if I am eating enough calories, but I think I am eating the right carbs and a good balance of carbs/pro/fat on most days.
Losin25

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Posted: 14 Jun 2011, 00:19
Sore muscles can retain water. Give yourself a day or two and the water weight will go away. Don't be so hard on yourself. If you weigh yourself every day, maybe you should move to once a week while your muscles are recooperating. Smile
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greerp

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Posted: 14 Jun 2011, 09:03
Take L-Glutamine for faster recovery. It used to take me 5-6 days for full recovery, now it is about 4. Lack of soreness does not equal full recovery either, so do not go by that. Most people do not allow enough time for recovery and over-train.
gnat824

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Posted: 14 Jun 2011, 09:36
If you put on a pound in one day, its NOT real weight gain. Period. You need to get away from the mindset that your body is going to give you instantaneous feedback and look for longer term trends. And yes, if your muscles are sore, you can gain several pounds in water weight just from that. If you think your balance is right, stick with it and see what happens.
- Natalie
reti856

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Posted: 14 Jun 2011, 10:58
I'm with kstub, gnat & adeline here on the carb, fat and protein ratio. I omit those crappy carbs 6 out of 7 days. It seems to be working for me very well since January. I do my best not harp on my "cheat" days or weigh myself afterward for at least a day or two so that I flush out the unusual calorie expenditure. then i get rigorously back on track the day after "cheat" day. progress not perfection.
stephanie.ca...

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Posted: 14 Jun 2011, 21:34
I am trying so hard with the carbs...At least keeping them to a minimum. I am not really paying attention to complex, BUT keeping them at 100g is pretty good.



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