The fat version of an eating disorder

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MamaShea2009

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Posted: 06 Apr 2011, 09:08
So, I really think of myself as the fat version of an eating disorder. Yes, obviously I ate incorrectly and didn't exercise to get to the weight I am. I'm discovering something about myself-I take things to the extreme. Thankfully I don't purge or anything that extreme but everything in my life becomes an obsession. I also have a problem with OCD thoughts. But anyhow, I'm rambling. I guess my reason to post is just to vent because I tend to find myself in fear. I'm afraid to eat too much.....I'm afraid to eat too little. My mentality is just really messed up from years of self abuse. I started out on another site at 1400 calories and teeter tottered back and forth on the scale. But, I also found out I wasn't doing Atkins correctly. I came here to FS at 1300 but quickly lowered RDI to 1100 calories. I keep reading how I should be higher according to other posts and I'm just tired cause it usually makes me sick to eat that much food. I don't mean to sound rude because I'm not trying to be-I just don't know how to eat 1800 calories in a day. Right now I'm losing more than a pound a day. Of course the sick me wonders- will I lose more if I up the calories or will I gain? God this really is an illness to me. I'm trying to fight all the voices in my head and do this in a healthy manner. I checked the RDI on this site and at low exercise it wanted me to eat 2200! That just seems outrageous to me. Anyhow, I hope I can find some support on here because I feel alone in my world and am tired of this mentality I have.
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Sherillynn

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Posted: 06 Apr 2011, 09:53
Well, my friend, Atkins is contrary to many of the things that we have been programmed to believe about dieting all of our lives. Being able to eat fat and feel full on a diet was unheard of for me. I also figured that I really had to limit calories to make this work. I have just recently been on a stall and had 3 of my Atkins buddies review my menu. One of the problems was that I wasn't getting enough calories in. I increased my calories and have broken the stall. If you don't get adecent amount of calories, your body will assume you are starving and slow down your metabolism. So give it a try.
And if you do hit a plateau, which I think we all do eventually, have some of your buddies help you out by looking at your food diaries and your intake values. Thats what we are all here for. The diet works. Have faith in it. And have faith in yourself that you CAN do this and that you ARE worthy of losing that weight and getting healthy. Give yourself positive affirmations everyday. It will help you keep going with the weight loss.
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** Goal 2- get back down to wearing size 16 jeans
** Goal 3- normal blood pressure
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StacieRitz

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Posted: 06 Apr 2011, 10:00
I was in a very similar state of mind that you find yourself in now. the best advice I have is to summon up the courage to talk openly and honestly with your family physician. Mine was incredibly helpful! She helped me approach my weight loss in a healthy and manageable way.

hang in there you will do great!
kokusho

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Posted: 06 Apr 2011, 12:56
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I keep reading how I should be higher according to other posts and I'm just tired cause it usually makes me sick to eat that much food. I don't mean to sound rude because I'm not trying to be-I just don't know how to eat 1800 calories in a day.


You don't know how to eat 1800 calories in a day? Then how did you become fat in the first place?

Look, I had the same problem when I started low carbing. It's difficult to eat that much food when you eliminate mostly carbs. But just add a lot of bacon, butter, eggs, brats, etc. to your diet. Bacon is your friend!

The problem with not eating more and continuing on this path is that eventually your body will adapt to your current dieting and you will stall. So, what will you do then? eat even less? good luck with that. You have to think ahead with dieting and create options so when you hit that brick wall, you're not worried cause you know that there are things you can do to get past it.

It would be different if you were trying to lose a quick 10 lbs. Then it almost wouldn't matter if you underate. But you're in it for the long haul, aren't you? So, stop whining and eat some darn bacon. put butter in your omelettes and enjoy a nice big steak along with it. Hell, put bacon on your steak. In fact, put bacon on everything and I guarantee you that you won't have a problem "eating that much".

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Bomaafa

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Posted: 06 Apr 2011, 13:21
LOL... I love this post. Heck, I think I'll put bacon in my coffee now. Smile
murraymints

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Posted: 06 Apr 2011, 13:34
lol.. very useful.. pan on for the bacon.. ;P
gkcfm95

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Posted: 06 Apr 2011, 13:37
When I started Atkins it was hard for me to eat enough also. I had the mindset that low cal was the way to go, yet I was gaining weight. Once I researched Atkins, I learned how to do it better. Now I regularly eat 1800 calories a day, and I also try to get 100g of fat & protein each day.
I looked at your diet calendar and you do need more calories. Like kokusho said, if you're in this for the long haul you have to do it right, it's a lifestyle change. If you increased both your fat & protein that would probably give you enough calories.
In addition to the bacon suggested above, why not skip the Atkins shakes (they're known to stall some people) and get some whey protein powder and mix it with half & half or heavy cream? Drinking your calories is much easier and it taste just like a milk shake. I have one every night.
And if you are loosing over a pound a day, that isn't all fat. You physically can't loose that much pure fat in one day. It probably is mostly water and muscle mass (from not eating enough).

~kelly
radiochick

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Posted: 06 Apr 2011, 14:13
Way to be honest. We all are learning new and more healthier way to eat.... everyone struggles with something!

If eating 1800 calories in atkins foods is hard for you, you might need to switch to different style of diet. But give it a fair try first. And, no matter what you do get above 1200!
MamaShea2009

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Posted: 06 Apr 2011, 15:03
Thanks everyone. I plan on eating more fat and protein and think I will shoot for 1800 calories. And yes kokusho, I already stated in my post that I ate obviously didn't eat right to get to this point so....I hear ya....eat the darn bacon. Fact is, I love bacon and sausage and meat of all kinds. I'm also going to reread my atkins book because I want to see what he says percentage wise, etc. Thanks everyone-I'm going to go eat some sausage now. Oh and do I add it(calories) in slow or just do it?
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TSCG

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Posted: 06 Apr 2011, 15:23
Just do it! Make sure your bacon and sausage do not have any added sugars. Add 1 tablespoon of butter to all your veggies and you'll get those calories up in the correct range. For the record, although you don't have to count calories with Atkins, for women, the range is 1500-1800. (I wouldn't worry about it as long as you're losing weight.) For my body, I don't drop at 1800, My range is 1500-1700. I learned this through trial and error.
Good luck and butter up!
Helewis

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Posted: 06 Apr 2011, 15:25
I'm not on Atkins, but I have a similar problem. I've added salmon to my non meat diet just to try to get more calories. I don't think I'm eating any less, just eating differently. If I ate what I eat today in cream-of-whatever soup or French fries instead of vegetable curry with cauliflower, zucchini and green beans , I'd get a lot more calories. I have a hard time getting 1200 calories, much less 1800.

It's pretty easy to get fat on a regular amount of bad foods, or even a smaller amount of really bad foods. And it was even easier to Get lots of calories eating a irregular diet of bad foods dining outside (or ordering in) than eating a regular diet of home-cooked whole foods.

I'm conscientious about adding good fats, but by dinner, I eat because I have to, not because I'm hungry. I even added low carb cheeses, even though I'm not supposed to have dairy due to food allergy. It certainly doesn't help that I'm watching carbs. Before this year, I would eat a full bag of frozen brussels sprouts (my favorites) for breakfast. It was 24g carbs, something like 100 calories (but i wasn't tracking anything). That was over a full day of carbs when I started this journey at 20g carbs. So I gave away my Brussels sprouts to my upstairs neighbor, and I'm into spinach these days.

I have looked at what the vegetarian group members do for calories but don't have any ideas. I'm open to suggestions, but don't really want to increase carbs that much. It seems like it used to be a whole lot easier to get calories, eating badly.
mdep1229

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Posted: 06 Apr 2011, 16:01
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I have looked at what the vegetarian group members do for calories but don't have any ideas. I'm open to suggestions, but don't really want to increase carbs that much. It seems like it used to be a whole lot easier to get calories, eating badly.


Nuts, avocados, and good organic tripple-creme cheese (if you are not vegan). Yum ...
jsfantome

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Posted: 06 Apr 2011, 16:19
Shea, my heart goes out to you... and I think it's very courageous of you to put your thoughts and feelings out there for all the world to read. (Well, all the FS world, anyway! Smile

I just wanted to say, I think what you are experiencing is actually quite common! So much of our progress, and success hinges on making some mental adjustments while at the same time making the physical adjustments to our meal plans.

First and foremost - commit to yourself that THIS is IT! Whether Atkins or whatever, you are an intelligent young woman, and fully capable of taking the necessary steps to begin to educate yourself, make changes, talk w/ a physician, READ, READ, and READ some more... and begin to believe that YOU are worth it! You'll likely need to learn to trust - yourself, and food, again. Trust in the new things you'll be learning. And WORK through the fear.

Secondly, come here often... and tag up w/ some buddies that can lend you some moral support when you feel weak, tired, frustrated, disappointed, etc. Don't turn to food to solve your problems, or make you feel better...turn to friends.

For awhile you may benefit from seeing FOOD as a fuel for your 'system' to function and operate ... much like gas in a car. Over time you will need to deal with appropriate portions, the right balance of carbs, fats, proteins, etc...even calories... but for now - you should (in my humble opinion) focus on learning about this way of eating, eat only Induction Foods, track, figure out if you are eating the 12-15g's of veggies, and at or under 20g's for the day...

Focus only on that for a week. Eat when you're hungry. Try to not go more than 4 hours between a meal and a snack or another meal. Try to train yourself to eat a little less so you can eat a little more frequently. And use the above suggestions for increasing your calories and get them up in the 1400-1600 calories as an absolute minimum for this style of eating.

And on top of all of that drink water throughout the day. Small amounts all day long. Yes, you'll have to pee alot... and yes, water tends to make you feel full... but it aids in carrying the burned off fat out of your system, and keeps you from getting constipated.

Keep us posted on how you are doing... I am going to send you a buddy request. If you ever need to just talk... pls reach out here, and not to food... Good Luck!
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jhkoenig

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Posted: 06 Apr 2011, 16:20
So complicated! On top of trying to eat the right things in the right quantities, now my doctor tells me that I shouldn't eat within 2 hours of bed time! Has anyone else been told that?

This could make me crazy!
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Posted: 06 Apr 2011, 16:26
I finish meals and water by 7pm every night (or at least, I try to).
gkcfm95

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Posted: 07 Apr 2011, 18:06
jhkoenig wrote:
So complicated! On top of trying to eat the right things in the right quantities, now my doctor tells me that I shouldn't eat within 2 hours of bed time! Has anyone else been told that?

This could make me crazy!


I have heard that you shouldn't go to bed on a full stomach. It's bad for your heart. Maybe a light snack would be ok, but nothing heavy.

~kelly
30x30

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Posted: 08 Apr 2011, 18:08
I skimmed over everyone's great suggestions and my little two cents is EGGS! Eggs, cheese and bacon are my best friends Smile Atkins convenience food(ie, bars and shakes) curb my sweet tooth. Of course, I try to get the recommended base veggies in but I rarely meet the suggested amount :/ OOO...MY BIGGEST piece of advice is..."Don't think just do!" I, too, overthink/obsess about every detail but I try not to dwell on it now...I clean, exercise etc., and continue to eat as Atkins friendly as possible...do, do, do...less analyzing. GOOD LUCK!!
FrostyLady

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Posted: 08 Apr 2011, 18:20
MamaShea, if it is possible for you to follow a meal plan? they have a great plan on atkins site and I consider it easy enough to folllow!! I think it should bring you to a good start . The only thing to avoid in the plan is their bars and shakes! Of course they are trying to sell you something!!!! but the menu itself is easy and affordable.
PeeFat

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Posted: 08 Apr 2011, 18:53
jhkoenig wrote:
So complicated! On top of trying to eat the right things in the right quantities, now my doctor tells me that I shouldn't eat within 2 hours of bed time! Has anyone else been told that?

This could make me crazy!


If your hungry and really want to eat just before bed, make it a small amount of high quality protein. An ounce or 2 of chicken breast will be fine for you.
kstubblefiel...

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Posted: 09 May 2011, 19:58
I find it much easier to add calories on low carb diets than high carb ones. Apart from yummy bacon, there's also stuff like avocados, nuts & nut butters that will load the calories on for you. I follow a plan with a particular target for fat grams, but you better believe I budget some of them for nuts or avocado every day!

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